RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!

DST said:

Good luck with the search Laserbrn, will be tuning in to find out what you decide on.

Peace, DST

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The soil plants look really good, but I'm 99% there's a hermie in there and I still don't know which one it is. I'd rather just kill'em off, clean everything down really thoroughly and start over. The bud still looks killer and some parts have more seeds than others. I think I spotted just one nanner after all was said and done, but it was enough to seed a bunch of my bud. Kind of annoying, but plants have seeds sometimes and I guess this strain just really wanted to continue on.

Somebody hermied on me, and I didn't know it. GRRRRR. When you tell someone there are a couple seeds in there, they look at you like you're trying to sell them outdoor. Confidence goes WAY down ... all because of one little fuggn uncontrollable nanner.

All of my seeds were Fem, and now I'm reconsidering my opinion on fem seeds. Fuggn sucks! Yours were not fem though, so now I don't know wtf to do.

smokingrubber said:

Somebody hermied on me, and I didn't know it. GRRRRR. When you tell someone there are a couple seeds in there, they look at you like you're trying to sell them outdoor. Confidence goes WAY down ... all because of one little fuggn uncontrollable nanner.

All of my seeds were Fem, and now I'm reconsidering my opinion on fem seeds. Fuggn sucks! Yours were not fem though, so now I don't know wtf to do.

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I learned the hard way. Do not use Fem seeds. They carry an intersexual gene with
them and are just waiting to fuck you. Everytime I think of my Blue Moonshine,
or Somango I cringe. Those damn beasts.

Shrubs First said:

I learned the hard way. Do not use Fem seeds. They carry an intersexual gene with
them and are just waiting to fuck you. Everytime I think of my Blue Moonshine,
or Somango I cringe. Those damn beasts.

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Honestly I'm not that surprised with mine. I had to kill one early on that was a STRAIGHT UP hermie from the start. When it showed sex it had full pistils and full balls....I killed that one really early but I think this strain just isn't stable. There aren't any really good redeeming qualities to this strain except that it looks cool. Two pheno's were good, the rest crap. It grew tons of leaf and no bud, didn't respond well to feeding, couldn't stay healthy and strong, I'm just over it. I think my decision is made...

Tomorrow's going to be a busy day if I can make it happen.

Ive had some dank plants hermie on me. Ive seen bananas as early as 2 weeks bud, but Ive kept them in there and never had a seed. I wouldnt recommend it, but sometimes I take my chances.

sagensour said:

Ive had some dank plants hermie on me. Ive seen bananas as early as 2 weeks bud, but Ive kept them in there and never had a seed. I wouldnt recommend it, but sometimes I take my chances.

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Alright well, the buds do look pretty fucking incredible. The problem: They are also a bit seeded. I thought I spotted a seed originally and it was the reason I decided to chop and sure enough there are quite a few seeds. Not the worst shit ever and since I smoke my own and don't sell it that part doesn't cost me, it's just annoying. The yield is a little bit lighter than I would've liked at 9 oz's, but I did chop early and the grow was a bit of a mess. I've jarred it all up and I'll get some pics of the buds when I get home. I won't have a smoke report for at least 2-3 weeks so they have at least some time to cure.

The colors are pretty cool looking I guess, although not really my thing. They are quite crystally and have lots of different colors including yellows and purples and even some more reddish areas.

Here are my six soil plants. They have now been flowering for 20 days. They are from clones from the previous batch. I never identified which plant hermied, as a matter of fact I never knew a plant hermied until I saw the seeds.

These six plants are in a different tent than the previous plants, but the room they are in is probably full of pollen. I'm sure that I'll see seeds around in my next couple of grows, but can't be very many and I'm not going to stop growing. The safest place for my new plants to be is in this new tent where the old plants never were. It intakes from outside and exhausts into the bedroom so hopefully it'll stay relative clear of pollen.

Regardless I think there's a genetic hermie in the bunch and I don't know who it is. It could've been environmental and that's the reason I can't bring myself to get rid of them.

Anyway, I'm going to lay out it for you guys and hopefully you can help guide me and share what you would do.

1) 600w & 4x4 space
The plants are 20 days along and look pretty good. Although the same signs are showing on the lower leaves of one plants. I swear I can tell it's clones from the batch before (one of each plant). I'm afraid there's a hermie in there.

2) 600w & 4x4 space
Empty - This is where the hydro side was that I am having a friend finish off because I want the space back. Those plants were too small and to stay in this space they must be on 12/12 if I keep #1 going

3) 600w & 4x4 space
Empty - This is where the first FI grow was and is full of pollen and needs to be cleaned out. Not a problem, I'll just bleach it all down and get it sterile. Not too concerned with the pollen.

I am moving in 12 weeks bear in mind.

So plan's and their problems...

1) Kill everything I have, sterilize the room. Go to the dispensary pick up all new clones and I have 12 weeks to bang it out. Pretty minimal timeframe, but completely doable.

2) Finish the FI in soil in the closet. Get clones for #3 space and I have 12 weeks to get them done. The FI finishes out in a few weeks and I tear down that tent and prepare for the move. #1 & #2 are retired for the summer (they can't be run over summer due to heat)

I keep flip flopping on what to do. Both are risks. If I can't get #1 done in 12 weeks it's going to be a disaster. It's all lost and I should've at least finished out the FI so I had some smoke over the summer. I could end up pulling 2.5 lbs using scenario 1 though and have a great summer and not have to worry about this for awhile.

hard to say what you should do. Maybe you can identify the hermie when you start breakin up the buds. Find out where the seeds are for the most part and look for the most likely source. I would say they are already 20 days in no point of just taking them down but if there is a risk of pollentating the other tents than I don't know. Sprtay down the tent with water and clean it real good before putting them in the tent with pollen. Good luck it looks dank to me.

Just a suggestion, if you're a prop 215 patient then you should research the co-ops around your area and get a list of clones from all of em and post that list up for RIU to vote on what clone(s) you should grow next. Save yourself the hassle of relying on a seed bank you'll never know how stable a strain is until you grow it out.

Pipe Dream said:

hard to say what you should do. Maybe you can identify the hermie when you start breakin up the buds. Find out where the seeds are for the most part and look for the most likely source. I would say they are already 20 days in no point of just taking them down but if there is a risk of pollentating the other tents than I don't know. Sprtay down the tent with water and clean it real good before putting them in the tent with pollen. Good luck it looks dank to me.

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Alright, I think I'll clean down Space #3 tomorrow and get it all sterile. I'll move these soil plants over into that tent and setup #1 & #2 with a new strain or two.

She likes a slightly higher PH (6.6 – 6.8 )
^taken from VISC website. If your not already doing that maybe it could help with the yellowing early.

Pipe Dream said:

She likes a slightly higher PH (6.6 – 6.8 )
^taken from VISC website. If your not already doing that maybe it could help with the yellowing early.

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I'm not at all concerned about yellowing early this time. It's that one leaf and after watching the last one I know that it's just the way this one goes. Last time they got burned and that made them look a little worse, but there were PLENTY of leaves on this shit when it was done. Garbage bags full of fuckin' leaves haha.

It looks like these girls are setting up nicely and it would be nice to be guaranteed some bud. Alright...I'm settled (finally) I'm going to finish these plants w/ great diligence looking for nanners. I'm not going to move these plants into the old tent because I'd have to switch their light cycle by 12 hours (which I did to the other plants by thew ay) and if that's what triggered the hermie I don't want to do it again.

I'll start vegging in the 4x4 and as soon as they are all big enough I'll add some to the 8x4 and leave the rest in the 4x4 and finish it all out. I hope I find some good strains tomorrow, I took the day off of work and I'll be hitting the town on my motorcycle to figure it all out.

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I'm not at all concerned about yellowing early this time. It's that one leaf and after watching the last one I know that it's just the way this one goes. Last time they got burned and that made them look a little worse, but there were PLENTY of leaves on this shit when it was done. Garbage bags full of fuckin' leaves haha.

It looks like these girls are setting up nicely and it would be nice to be guaranteed some bud. Alright...I'm settled (finally) I'm going to finish these plants w/ great diligence looking for nanners. I'm not going to move these plants into the old tent because I'd have to switch their light cycle by 12 hours (which I did to the other plants by thew ay) and if that's what triggered the hermie I don't want to do it again.

I'll start vegging in the 4x4 and as soon as they are all big enough I'll add some to the 8x4 and leave the rest in the 4x4 and finish it all out. I hope I find some good strains tomorrow, I took the day off of work and I'll be hitting the town on my motorcycle to figure it all out.

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I don't even know where we are as far as updates!

Tonight/This weekend I'll be finishing up the cleanup of space #3 and I'll probably go ahead and clean down space #2 even though it's a brand new tent. It's been in the room with Space #3 and I'm sure pollen has found it's way in there.

I fed the plants for the first time @ 1/4 strength and there some spots already showing "The Claw" so I won't be feeding again for awhile. This plant seems perfectly content with just what's left in the soil and doesn't seem to want anything else. Follows along the lines of the last grow, plants didn't seem to like too much feeding. Major difference? I haven't lost a SINGLE leaf thus far on this grow in the soil. Some are starting to show little signs of wear, but overall the health is good.

I picked up new clones by the way and I'll link to the new grow journal after I get everything cleaned up. I'll be runnin an LA Confidential x OG Kush (Madman) and Sour Diesel as I just love that stuff.

I have until June 02 when I need to move so this thing needs to get UNDERWAY. I ordered a 465 CFM Dayton Squirrel Cage fan from ebay and I'll be using that to exhause the big tent and moving the 4" little fan back to the small tent. Hopefully in this configuration with the lights in the 8x4 being cooled by a 6" inline fan, the room being vented seperately with the squirrel cage I'll be able to run a passive intake and not need to "blow the cold air in".

I may, and if so I'll get another fan. At least winter is gone and putting a fan in my window wouldn't look the least bit suspicious.

I'm finally getting excited again. The first batch yielded about 9 oz's of useable bud and some stuff that can be used for hash or brownies. It's all a little seedy, but I smoke my own stash and I don't care about picking those seeds outta there. Plus I paid $14.00/seed to get them so at least I can feel like I'm getting a return even though I would never plant these seeds.

laserbrn said:

I don't even know where we are as far as updates!

Tonight/This weekend I'll be finishing up the cleanup of space #3 and I'll probably go ahead and clean down space #2 even though it's a brand new tent. It's been in the room with Space #3 and I'm sure pollen has found it's way in there.

I fed the plants for the first time @ 1/4 strength and there some spots already showing "The Claw" so I won't be feeding again for awhile. This plant seems perfectly content with just what's left in the soil and doesn't seem to want anything else. Follows along the lines of the last grow, plants didn't seem to like too much feeding. Major difference? I haven't lost a SINGLE leaf thus far on this grow in the soil. Some are starting to show little signs of wear, but overall the health is good.

I picked up new clones by the way and I'll link to the new grow journal after I get everything cleaned up. I'll be runnin an LA Confidential x OG Kush (Madman) and Sour Diesel as I just love that stuff.

I have until June 02 when I need to move so this thing needs to get UNDERWAY. I ordered a 465 CFM Dayton Squirrel Cage fan from ebay and I'll be using that to exhause the big tent and moving the 4" little fan back to the small tent. Hopefully in this configuration with the lights in the 8x4 being cooled by a 6" inline fan, the room being vented seperately with the squirrel cage I'll be able to run a passive intake and not need to "blow the cold air in".

I may, and if so I'll get another fan. At least winter is gone and putting a fan in my window wouldn't look the least bit suspicious.

I'm finally getting excited again. The first batch yielded about 9 oz's of useable bud and some stuff that can be used for hash or brownies. It's all a little seedy, but I smoke my own stash and I don't care about picking those seeds outta there. Plus I paid $14.00/seed to get them so at least I can feel like I'm getting a return even though I would never plant these seeds.

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Makes me wonder how these would perform in a guerilla grow considering they don't need much nutrients almost sounds perfect...

sounds awesome laser! sour diesel sounds yummy

The fan hasn't shown up yet, so the sour D and LA Conf x OG are sitting under the clone lights just waiting. UPS tracking says it will be here today.

The 6 FI I've got going look pretty good. These weren't topped at all so they are growin' straight up traditional which I always like better. I like it when I don't have to top to control height, the plants just look better.

I will add a little cal-mag in their watering tonight, but other than that, they've only been fed once and they seem to be doing just fine for 28 days.

So far I haven't seen any "nanners" and I'm trying to be pretty diligent. What a pain in the ass.

Things are still just chuggin' along. I didn't realize that last post failed to upload the pictures. I have new ones today anyway...

The fan did show up and I've set it up in the tent. All is well now, although these plants at least for now are in the tent alone, I've tested the tent for dual lights and it stays 82 degrees directly under the lights @ 12" with no A/C. Gotta love that, and I can hopefully produce enough to not need to worry about growin' all summer long.

My new grow journal is started for the next two strains "Sour Diesel" and "Madman (LA Conf x OG Kush".

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/315839-laserbrn-sour-diesel-la-conf.html

I just posted in the General Growing area about what I believe to be the hermie!

I posted some pics, some input would be appreciated.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/316001-confirmation-hermie.html#post3959328

Laserbrn great journal. Good luck on the hermie problem. I was wondering why you decided to axe the Bud Blood? any reason besides the cost? I heart Bud Blood.

laserbrn said:

Things are still just chuggin' along. I didn't realize that last post failed to upload the pictures. I have new ones today anyway...

The fan did show up and I've set it up in the tent. All is well now, although these plants at least for now are in the tent alone, I've tested the tent for dual lights and it stays 82 degrees directly under the lights @ 12" with no A/C. Gotta love that, and I can hopefully produce enough to not need to worry about growin' all summer long.

My new grow journal is started for the next two strains "Sour Diesel" and "Madman (LA Conf x OG Kush".

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/315839-laserbrn-sour-diesel-la-conf.html

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Hey lsrbrn, too many people getting too anal about a couple of seeds imo. if it smokes well then what's the issue. Anyways, these soil ones look frosty, and I will pop over to check out your new journal. you closing this journal?

Peace, DST

mikejones420ish said:

Laserbrn great journal. Good luck on the hermie problem. I was wondering why you decided to axe the Bud Blood? any reason besides the cost? I heart Bud Blood.

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I axed Bud Blood because it was an expensive product that doesn't do what it's advertised to do in my opinion. It was a product that they bought (not forumlated in house) and I just didn't care much for it.

I've actually switched back to growing in soil for a little bit and I'm using Fox Farms nutrients now. I have a whole stock pile of hydro nutes, but I'm hoping not to use them in the very near future. I actually really like growing in soil a lot more than I thought I would. The real deciding factor is going to be the taste.