Outdoors in SE Virginia

Bike247

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P addition is an interesting quandary. It’s a nutrient that will eventually run out and no new P will be created. Life’s bottleneck as some say. Which then leads you to believe that all P addition methods would be considered organic.
You could always check with your local hardware store for some Level 2 bio-compost. Since you can’t destroy P, it ends up in the solid stream at a wastewater plant. Many then process it and recover, and sell it. They call it Struvite Recovery.
 

Bike247

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Have you tried terpinator???
Good stuff. But RetiredEngineer has grown more than I’ll ever grow. His stuff is impressive. I think it’s the densest stuff I’ve ever seen. Gotta look up to see the forest instead do the trees.
 

Mad878

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Good stuff. But RetiredEngineer has grown more than I’ll ever grow. His stuff is impressive. I think it’s the densest stuff I’ve ever seen. Gotta look up to see the forest instead do the trees.
Forester is the best. Thinking About getting some from Oregon next year, you seen how big the trees are there.:eek:
 

FirstCavApache64

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P addition is an interesting quandary. It’s a nutrient that will eventually run out and no new P will be created. Life’s bottleneck as some say. Which then leads you to believe that all P addition methods would be considered organic.
You could always check with your local hardware store for some Level 2 bio-compost. Since you can’t destroy P, it ends up in the solid stream at a wastewater plant. Many then process it and recover, and sell it. They call it Struvite Recovery.
I tried Dr Earth for the first time and used it at recommend dosage but I've never done any organic gardening before so when it went into stretch and started showing some deficiency signs all I could really treat it with was some epson salt and then I just let it ride pretty much. I top dressed with Dr Earth again halfway through flower and added two more inches of ocean forest but it seemed to stay stunted after I sprayed it with the 3 in 1 spray stuff I used. I won't be using that in flower again. I burnt a bunch of pistils and sure it killed the mites and leaf septoria but it did too much damage. I'll try citric acid next time and do better management in veg for sure. I'm just happy to be sitting my last night of guard duty before chop in the morning.
 

Mad878

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I tried Dr Earth for the first time and used it at recommend dosage but I've never done any organic gardening before so when it went into stretch and started showing some deficiency signs all I could really treat it with was some epson salt and then I just let it ride pretty much. I top dressed with Dr Earth again halfway through flower and added two more inches of ocean forest but it seemed to stay stunted after I sprayed it with the 3 in 1 spray stuff I used. I won't be using that in flower again. I burnt a bunch of pistils and sure it killed the mites and leaf septoria but it did too much damage. I'll try citric acid next time and do better management in veg for sure. I'm just happy to be sitting my last night of guard duty before chop in the morning.
Next time try bt all the way until last week of harvest. It’s like setting off nuclear bomb on any leaf eating bug it expands in side it’s intestines and starves to death. Flys, Caterpillars and grass hoppers. It’s organic
 

FirstCavApache64

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I'll have to see tomorrow when I chop just how well I really did bug wise but based on my inspections I've been really lucky. I've lost two small buds to bud rot from caterpillar damage that I've found so far and just a couple eggs. It might be a different story in the morning when Im stripping the plant for drying but I managed to go the last 4 weeks without spraying anything on them at all so even if there's some damage as long as it's not major I'm going to be happy they got this far so clean. The bug zapper of doom out front has done a serious amount of damage to the local moth population and I'm guessing that helped with the caterpillar problem. I also have a ton of bats that come out right at dusk when those little white moths are really active. I'm considering taking down the Blue Dream in the morning with the other two. I was going to let it go a bit but a surprise rain storm tonight at midnight that had me scrambling to move fans around is getting old. I'm giving her trichomes a really good looking over in the morning and if she's 100% cloudy...timber and I'm done for awhile.
 

Retired engineer

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Good stuff. But RetiredEngineer has grown more than I’ll ever grow. His stuff is impressive. I think it’s the densest stuff I’ve ever seen. Gotta look up to see the forest instead do the trees.
Thanks for the compliment...this is a great hobby to learn and experiment...I agree the 10,000k bulbs prolly made the plant go into hyperdrive and start flowering again. I took the plant down the other day, and the flowers at the end of the stalks were vivid green, and filled with emerging pistils. The rest of the plant was turning a dark brown. I think I had a plant with lots of new growth with cloudy tricromes emerging at the top, and mostly all amber at the bottom..should make for an interesting mix. I’m still looking for the sweet spot for the 10,00k bulbs (when to start, how long, with what other lights etc...). Lots of people will tell ya they don’t have any benefit, but from the 2 times I used them I’ve seen bigger and denser bud clusters.
 

Retired engineer

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I’m gonna get a few bug zappers for my patio grow next year, and start a bit earlier in BT preventative treatment. I released some ladybugs but they disappeared. Some green lacewings I released seemed to stick around a bit longer...

at some point, ya look at the plant and say “I’ve babied ya and now it’s time...“. Lugging fans around in the dead of night ain’t no fun I’m sure, and they are ready for harvest...go for it!
 

FirstCavApache64

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Well, life and my back kept me from chopping and looking at the weather forecast for the upcoming week now I'm tempted to go for another week. After the shower chance today there's pretty much no chance of rain here until Saturday night which would give me 6 days of sun to finish them off and let them finish flushing. I'm being greedy but I did a standing trim on the indica dominant one yesterday so it only has small leaves and buds left that are very open. The hybrid leaning one I'll trim some but since we're getting sun I'll try to leave a couple leaves. I want to get the Blue Dream out of the tent in the sun asap. It's getting really frosty and the smell from the leaves I've trimmed is great. It's sooo close and with the way they look I think a week of sun would really be the difference between good and amazing. I haven't popped any beans for a new grow yet so it's not like I'm in a rush to finish because my indoor grow is getting started so I'll take the tent down tomorrow morning I think and spread them back out for the week. I was really upset when I realized I wasn't going to be able to chop on Saturday but sometimes things happen for a reason. I guess they wanted another week.
 

Retired engineer

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Hope Mother Nature is cooperating with you; been cold and damp here for a few days and not gonna improve much. This is my least favorite time of year, as I watch leaves pile up, go rake them, watch them pile up, go rake them again and in and on. I wind up with around 60 bags, jammed full every year. I hate it.

thinking about starting another plant indoors - some Logistics to work out first. What are you going to start next?
 

FirstCavApache64

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I took the lean to down and had the girls out on Monday when we weren't supposed to get any rain and I got caught with a surprise mist/drizzle while I was getting my 4 hours of sleep for the day. They got soaked. However, in total I've only lost four little buds so far during this entire oddysey of 98% humidity and no sunlight for over a week to budrot and now we get 2 more days of sun and 85 degrees on Friday so I can bud wash them.
Going through seed packs last night I found out I mislabeled the pots and I've been growing blueberries x bag of oranges not Bag of Oranges so it has blue dream and hash plant genetics crossed with the bag of oranges and should be good heavy indica meds especially since I took them this long. It helps explain the super sticky trichomes, it's the hash plant coming through. I stripped them all down to bare bones and chop is Friday.
I've narrowed it down to Bubba Trouble for sure if I do autos and if I do photo periods it's so much harder. Guamanian Gardens gave me these seeds- white chocolate cherry truffle and Steve Lemme OG X TK and then I have some BOG Sour Bubble seeds I wanted to run since he passed away this past year and I can't get any more of his killer meds. I also have some mint chocolate trip, blueberries and boo, boo x chemD by Useful Seeds and some super strawberry diesel by Hazeman that is good to run in the winter time when pests aren't as big of a problem. So with a four plant max and a 4x4 tent and a 2x4 tent to operate in I'm still at a loss. I could always do the bubba trouble in the 2x4 by itself and try to setup a separate grow area for autos. I have my grow area in my son's old room and my daughter moved out a long time ago. Her room is just storage. I would just have to light proof two windows and her door and I'd have another grow room I could use for autos. Next time my son's home to visit I'll have him help me clean out some of the furniture in there we don't need and I'm going to panda film those windows. I can also use it for males if I get a Sour Bubble male. I don't know crap about breeding but I know I only have 9 of BOG's Sour Bubble seeds left and a few other BOG strains and I need to try and make some more if I can. That strain is amazing pain medicine and flowers so fast. If not and I get a nice female maybe I'll try keeping a mother room in there and I'll keep a clone of the Sour Bubble for a mother plant.
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Mad878

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Basking in the sun surrounded by aromatic plants that repel pests; basil, rosemary, cilantro, marigolds, alum (member of garlic family). Might work, might not, but I’ll get some great herbs (ha ha ha) out of it

awesome looking plant!
Try some stuff called orca during vegg it work well:leaf:
 

Retired engineer

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I took the lean to down and had the girls out on Monday when we weren't supposed to get any rain and I got caught with a surprise mist/drizzle while I was getting my 4 hours of sleep for the day. They got soaked. However, in total I've only lost four little buds so far during this entire oddysey of 98% humidity and no sunlight for over a week to budrot and now we get 2 more days of sun and 85 degrees on Friday so I can bud wash them.
Going through seed packs last night I found out I mislabeled the pots and I've been growing blueberries x bag of oranges not Bag of Oranges so it has blue dream and hash plant genetics crossed with the bag of oranges and should be good heavy indica meds especially since I took them this long. It helps explain the super sticky trichomes, it's the hash plant coming through. I stripped them all down to bare bones and chop is Friday.
I've narrowed it down to Bubba Trouble for sure if I do autos and if I do photo periods it's so much harder. Guamanian Gardens gave me these seeds- white chocolate cherry truffle and Steve Lemme OG X TK and then I have some BOG Sour Bubble seeds I wanted to run since he passed away this past year and I can't get any more of his killer meds. I also have some mint chocolate trip, blueberries and boo, boo x chemD by Useful Seeds and some super strawberry diesel by Hazeman that is good to run in the winter time when pests aren't as big of a problem. So with a four plant max and a 4x4 tent and a 2x4 tent to operate in I'm still at a loss. I could always do the bubba trouble in the 2x4 by itself and try to setup a separate grow area for autos. I have my grow area in my son's old room and my daughter moved out a long time ago. Her room is just storage. I would just have to light proof two windows and her door and I'd have another grow room I could use for autos. Next time my son's home to visit I'll have him help me clean out some of the furniture in there we don't need and I'm going to panda film those windows. I can also use it for males if I get a Sour Bubble male. I don't know crap about breeding but I know I only have 9 of BOG's Sour Bubble seeds left and a few other BOG strains and I need to try and make some more if I can. That strain is amazing pain medicine and flowers so fast. If not and I get a nice female maybe I'll try keeping a mother room in there and I'll keep a clone of the Sour Bubble for a mother plant.
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I admire the effort and care you’ve put unto this season’s grow. Outdoors ain’t no picnic (but most picnics are outdoors). You gonna be in trim jail for a while soon. I’ve never too much minded trimming - good strong cup ‘o coffee, a magic brownie or two, some good tunes and sharp shears.

you have some tough choices to make on the strain for your next grow (I vote for bubble trouble); Me too thanks to your hint in DC Seed Exchange...even though I already have enuff seeds to last me and a grow buddy a year at least, we both are addicted to seed seller sites. It’s become a competition of sorts - who can find the most impressive and beautiful flower picture. It’s all advertising, so the photos are taken with a grain of salt, but we are closing in on getting something purple in the rotation...

I helped him trim 3 Blue Mystics i started indoors, spent a month and a half outdoors (his house) then moved indoors (his house). They were all completely different plants than what I grew. His were short and stocky with really dense buds. Mine was tall and lanky with kinda whispy buds. That is what is in the drying/cure cabinet now. There aren’t any real big flower heads, lots of small ones and tons of individual calyxes that never bloomed. I pulled a couple of these off and squeezed them and they are full of resin-headed for the tincture jar probably.

my friend’s mother scored some Everclear, so got that in the freezer chillin already. My infusion machine can make tincture too, but uses heat to strip the tricromes and I’m gonna go the freezer route. Any tips ya might have on that would be appreciated. I was told I can buy Everclear on base so gonna check that out next week.

hope you season end is going well, I envy you all the plants you now have to harvest...
 
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