Organics; Nutrient Burn; Deficiencies; Questions

PaintingHammers

New Member
Ok, I'm growing outdoor in 30 gallon smart pots, I've been using full Botanicare line nutrients. Every watering(which is about every 2 to 3 days) I give 2 1/2 TBS of Veg per 5 gallons of water. I've recently started uping the dosage to 3 and I see more browning tips on some leaves(uneffecting the plant) Is this too much nutrients? The ‘nutrient burn' I seem to see affect maybe 1 to 3% of the plant, but usually I'm pulling off yellowing lower leaves and inner middle leaves off the plant weekly(.again it's not affecting the plant.) Does nutrient burn only affect a small % of leaves? Only fan leaves?

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Dgringo69

Well-Known Member
Let me first say that you should leave the "organic" part of the title out. Although Botanicare makes a good line of products that are derived from organic sources, the way that they extract the nutrients from these sources involves the use of strong acids. These acids make it possible to essentially "force feed" nutrients to your plants rather than allowing your plant to take what it needs when it needs it. When growing truly organic you cannot burn your plants! I have heard arguments that you CAN such as "well what if you grew in straight blood meal? You would certainly over fertilize." Well this is true. But we aren't going to do such foolish things now are we? I believe you are probably over using the nutes. Some lower leaves will naturally yellow and fall away no matter how healthy the plant, especially outdoors. I would strongly recommend using aerated compost teas. They support the microbiology in the soil, they are super easy to make and will save you lots and lots of $$$! Stop looking at it like you are feeding your plant when you introduce things to your soil and start looking at it like you are feeding the microbes in the soil and in turn the microbes break down the organic matter in the soil and they feed your plants at a rate which keeps your plant happy! Happy growing!
 

PaintingHammers

New Member
I wan't to make a ACT Brewer in the 50 gallon range, I just don't know how or where to look, if I had a ACT Brewer I wouldn't use any line of nutrients.
 

Dgringo69

Well-Known Member
A brewer of that caliber is something that you put together yourself. Keep in mind that a compost tea can be diluted. I dilute mine at a 1/5 ratio so 5 gallons ultimately makes 25 gallons of usable tea. If you are ultimately looking to have 50 gallons of usable tea then 2 5gal buckets should do the trick! A good tea takes 48 hrs to spawn its max potential of microbes. Some folks say longer, some say shorter.. The average recommended feeding/inoculation with a tea is every third watering so if you can stagger your plant's tea feeding schedule then you may only need one 5gal bucket to make your tea with. I am not sure how large your grow is.. Teas can be formulated to feed your plants the nutrients that they need but I also recommend top dressing throughout the grow and when you are initially preparing the soil make sure to get lots of good compost in there! You can't really have too much compost! I grow in straight compost often, the only thing to watch for is drainage issues. Hit me up if you have more questions:)
 
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