Organic Grow (1st time, no time to cook)
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Richard Drysift
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There's a bunch of companies like kind soil selling premix online but you'll spend a fortune. IMO you are better off starting out using a good base soil and working from there. I would just get a decent brand garden soil amend & cook it in after your first harvest. FFOF soil or equivalent like sunshine mix is pretty good. Some amendments like EWC, oyster shell flour, and perlite do not need cook time. Composted material like chicken or cow manure doesn't need any cook time either but you don't want to add that to mix for seedlings or young clones.
You may not get away with water only right now but you can certainly get by with liquid fish fertilizer like neptunes harvest and AACTs regularly. Kelp meal, EWC, and molasses makes for a good AACT; just bubble for 36+hrs and serve. Fresh EWC as a top dress can also help keep them nice & green.
Transplant to larger pots with fresh mix often. When you reach the final size containers push in a couple jobes organic spikes and that will feed them through most of bloom phase. You can also add in a layer of soil mixed with manure or guano in the bottom of a bloom container and cover with regular soil so the roots will grow into it later on when needed. If you do this sprinkle on some oyster flour to help regulate the ph drop and cover with more soil. Sprinkle granular mycorrhizae at every transplant so it is touching the root ball directly.
After your first harvest you can recycle the root balls for the next cycle. Your mix will get better every time you amend and let it set for a month to cook. Another thing you can do right now is start up a worm bin which will give you free EWC for life. Eventually your mix will become so rich and the soil food web in your containers so well established that you can begin doing no till methods where you just pop out the old root ball and plug in the next plant for another bloom cycle.
You may not get away with water only right now but you can certainly get by with liquid fish fertilizer like neptunes harvest and AACTs regularly. Kelp meal, EWC, and molasses makes for a good AACT; just bubble for 36+hrs and serve. Fresh EWC as a top dress can also help keep them nice & green.
Transplant to larger pots with fresh mix often. When you reach the final size containers push in a couple jobes organic spikes and that will feed them through most of bloom phase. You can also add in a layer of soil mixed with manure or guano in the bottom of a bloom container and cover with regular soil so the roots will grow into it later on when needed. If you do this sprinkle on some oyster flour to help regulate the ph drop and cover with more soil. Sprinkle granular mycorrhizae at every transplant so it is touching the root ball directly.
After your first harvest you can recycle the root balls for the next cycle. Your mix will get better every time you amend and let it set for a month to cook. Another thing you can do right now is start up a worm bin which will give you free EWC for life. Eventually your mix will become so rich and the soil food web in your containers so well established that you can begin doing no till methods where you just pop out the old root ball and plug in the next plant for another bloom cycle.
MistaRasta
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If you want to spend a lot of money on an otherwise cheap resource go with the kind soil.
You could also get a bale of promix and plant directly in that and do topdresses of dry ferts to increase the Ec. This would be water only, the only added effort would be the topdresses.
i just flipped the lights to 12/12 on 5 plants in 5 gallon pots. I've been using liquid nutes their whole life. I want to transfer them to 7 gallon fabric pots and ditch the liquid nutrients.
I'm using happy frog soil.
Is it too late to do what I'm asking since I just flipped the lights yesterday ?
If i can do it.. what do I do for nutrients? How do I feed them without liquid nutes?
I'm using happy frog soil.
Is it too late to do what I'm asking since I just flipped the lights yesterday ?
If i can do it.. what do I do for nutrients? How do I feed them without liquid nutes?
Yeah, it's a bit late.
I would strongly suggest finishing this grow the way you started, Happy Frog, liquid nutes and all. Then, plan ahead with the organic route for the next grow and do it right.
Trying to switch up in the middle of a grow pretty much never works out well.
You know, you can recycle the mix you're using with organic amendments? There is no need to toss it when the grow is over, even after using liquid nutes. It's not ruined or anything.
MistaRasta and Richard Drysift both give excellent advice, listen to them.
I would strongly suggest finishing this grow the way you started, Happy Frog, liquid nutes and all. Then, plan ahead with the organic route for the next grow and do it right.
Trying to switch up in the middle of a grow pretty much never works out well.
You know, you can recycle the mix you're using with organic amendments? There is no need to toss it when the grow is over, even after using liquid nutes. It's not ruined or anything.
MistaRasta and Richard Drysift both give excellent advice, listen to them.
Ok, I'll finish out the grow normally.
I have 4 seeds I want to start.
This is the soil recipe I will be using. MistaRasta suggested this recipe:
Kelp, Crab, Neem - 1/2 cup per cu ft of soil
Basalt - 4 cups per cu ft
Gypsum and oyster shell flour - 1/2 cup per cu ft
SOIL:
1/3 peat moss
1/3 compost
1/3 lava rocks
I want to do 4 plants in a 4x4 tent and get close to 2lb yield. I'm thinking of buying a 36x36x14 inch soil bed. Will that be enough soil for 4 plants? That's 35 gallons.
Also, do I plant seeds straight into soil bed?
I have 4 seeds I want to start.
This is the soil recipe I will be using. MistaRasta suggested this recipe:
Kelp, Crab, Neem - 1/2 cup per cu ft of soil
Basalt - 4 cups per cu ft
Gypsum and oyster shell flour - 1/2 cup per cu ft
SOIL:
1/3 peat moss
1/3 compost
1/3 lava rocks
I want to do 4 plants in a 4x4 tent and get close to 2lb yield. I'm thinking of buying a 36x36x14 inch soil bed. Will that be enough soil for 4 plants? That's 35 gallons.
Also, do I plant seeds straight into soil bed?
chemphlegm
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I add Organicare organic composted chicken manure/6% calcium per instructions to a bucket of moist pro mix and add
water. cooking? meh
water. cooking? meh