My plants have gone rogue, help

MoreSessLessStress

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Hey everyone. I've got 3 plants that, sort of, are showing the same weird symptoms. I'm using Foxfarm Ocean Forest. I've scoured the forums and cant find anything that looks the same as this so I'm guessing there are multiple deficiencies? Any help or insight is appreciated!IMG_0800.JPG IMG_0802.JPG IMG_0805.JPG IMG_0800.JPG IMG_0802.JPG IMG_0805.JPG
 

MoreSessLessStress

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Sorry, I posted in a hurry. I haven't given any nutes to it. It was fine up until about 4 days ago when they started showing signs of yellowing and a few yellow spots in the middle of fan leaves. When that happened, I put a small amount of non water soluble nitrogen just because I had experienced that problem before. However, now I am not so sure that was the problem at all. Leaves are starting to droop and more yellowing on the lower leaves. I also notice some of the stems going to the fan leaves are brownish/reddish or or maybe even really dark purple... Then some of the top growth leaves are curling up on the edges as you can see in the last photo. I appreciate any help, even if you are just kind of taking a guess.
 

cat of curiosity

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when did you transplant? looks like shock to me... simulates the 'over watered' look.

@Dr. Who might know, i don't do much dirt these days...

if it's shock, use superthrive, rapid start, or some other b vitamin supplement to assist root repair and minimize shock. use once or twice and let it go. one generally avoids b vit supplements in flower...
 

MoreSessLessStress

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Two are grown from seed in the dirt, so they never got transplanted. The one with less flower was transplanted like 3 weeks ago or so. They seem like they've stopped growing also... I'm just stumped. I think I wont be doing much more soil myself lol, time to make the switch.
 

cat of curiosity

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Two are grown from seed in the dirt, so they never got transplanted. The one with less flower was transplanted like 3 weeks ago or so. They seem like they've stopped growing also... I'm just stumped. I think I wont be doing much more soil myself lol, time to make the switch.
any chance you waterlogged them? if started in those pots, they may be root wound and bound...
 

MoreSessLessStress

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I don't think so, I water them once every 4 or 5 days. And the Fox Farm seems to let the water drain sufficient enough... Do you think I should put them in bigger buckets?
 

chemphlegm

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you dont know exact amounts of N added so this is what you get. sorry this happened to you.
choose a quality feeding habit and stick to it. organic Jobes spikes better than straight N any day.
 

Nutty sKunK

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Sorry, I posted in a hurry. I haven't given any nutes to it. It was fine up until about 4 days ago when they started showing signs of yellowing and a few yellow spots in the middle of fan leaves. When that happened, I put a small amount of non water soluble nitrogen just because I had experienced that problem before. However, now I am not so sure that was the problem at all. Leaves are starting to droop and more yellowing on the lower leaves. I also notice some of the stems going to the fan leaves are brownish/reddish or or maybe even really dark purple... Then some of the top growth leaves are curling up on the edges as you can see in the last photo. I appreciate any help, even if you are just kind of taking a guess.
Sounds like your N is too high blocking out K (potassium). Especially since adding more N made the symptoms worse.

I suspect they've used most of the P and K in the soil, now they are done stretching and starting properly bud their PK needs are higher than N.
 

chemphlegm

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I've done this in similar flowering stage and suggest scrapping this one and get to work on the next. she wont finish nicely, prolly issues all the way through, pests on their way.....move along, sorry....
 

Dr. Who

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Too damn hard to say by not having regular light pictures!

Take pics with the HPS OFF...

Have drain holes in those buckets?
Why pickle buckets? Use #7 nursery pots and have the same volume.....A pot that large, best be growing large plants - Overkill, if your not planing on 7ft plants.

Anyway, pH, over watering, feeding amounts (of)......Could be a few things and can't really see shit - color matters.
 

MoreSessLessStress

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Too damn hard to say by not having regular light pictures!

Take pics with the HPS OFF...

Have drain holes in those buckets?
Why pickle buckets? Use #7 nursery pots and have the same volume.....A pot that large, best be growing large plants - Overkill, if your not planing on 7ft plants.

Anyway, pH, over watering, feeding amounts (of)......Could be a few things and can't really see shit - color matters.
Hey Dr. Who, hope all is well. As I took the pictures I knew I was fucked up for not taking them in regular light, I apologize for that. As for the buckets, they're 5 gallon buckets from the hardware store. I just use them because they were easy to get, cheap and figured I wouldn't have to worry about root lock with them. I'm in a 6.5ft tall tent that is 4x4, so I don't plan on having 7 footers haha, as much as I would love to. I ran these plants on 12/12 from seedling though, that's why they're a little shorter though. How much smaller of a bucket or pot do you think I could, or should, use?

Back to the problems at hand though, I went out and bought a BlueLab PH tester yesterday. My water is at 8.6, so I got the PH Up and PH Down to correct it. However, what do I do when I correct the water? Should I water more often with corrected PH levels? Flush with proper PH or should I just water every few days as I normally do?

Thanks for your time everyone!
 

Dr. Who

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12/12? Next time at least let then get to 8-10 inch's then flip to bloom times.

I would use #3 nursery pots for that. No bigger. In a 6.5 tent, I would run veg till 18 inch plants - #3's

pH all in-going to 6.5 - it's that simple.
 
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