My lost genetics, Cleaning up the seed collection

BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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Shua1991 said:
Only 1%? For me it's between 5-10% worth flowering 2-3 times, and if it's a real keeper, it see's outdoors as well as indoors. I used to outright abuse my plants in order to see if they make the cut(stress testing) but if I run 40 seeds(average run for me) I wind up with at least 1-3 great fems. Doesn't matter the breeder I pick, just seems like odds are stacked in my favor.
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Maybe I’m pickier then most,
I look for huge yielding , very dense, not pruned to popcorning, looks, smell, taste & doesn’t want to go over 63days I have 2 that I compare too, I always seem to go for them over all else.
I grew a cookies cross that was fire had everything but the yeild sucked , at a 30% loss over my others , it didn’t stay long .

I had a really good C99 , but wasn’t dense n didn’t look very nice . Probably had the best smell of the lot.
I smoke with my eyes 1st lol
I keep looking . I have a GC cross going that I hope makes the cut because i had a good time growing her, but is prone to popcorning and needs heavy lollipopping
If it smokes like Mom n grows like dad, I’ll let it slide.
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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BigHornBuds said:
Currently I have 4 strains in all stages of growth, I have 2 strains in seedling stage, 3 different phenos each, and just started another 1/2 pack of seeds . That’s more then I want of a mix , but I just can’t stop popping seeds hunting for special phenos .

What would you say your pop rate is for finding a special plant ?
I think I’m at about 1%
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It depends on what you mean by special. Something that’s going to blow everyone away, yeah 1%. Something that’s a keeper and good in my garden way more than that. I’ve got a Pheno of sour diesel and ghost train haze that would work their way into anyone’s garden. I popped 10 beans to find those two.

With that said, I’m always looking to improve. Have several that are about ready that I haven’t tried yet
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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BigHornBuds said:
Maybe I’m pickier then most,
I look for huge yielding , very dense, not pruned to popcorning, looks, smell, taste & doesn’t want to go over 63days I have 2 that I compare too, I always seem to go for them over all else.
I grew a cookies cross that was fire had everything but the yeild sucked , at a 30% loss over my others , it didn’t stay long .

I had a really good C99 , but wasn’t dense n didn’t look very nice . Probably had the best smell of the lot.
I smoke with my eyes 1st lol
I keep looking . I have a GC cross going that I hope makes the cut because i had a good time growing her, but is prone to popcorning and needs heavy lollipopping
If it smokes like Mom n grows like dad, I’ll let it slide.
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Your condition of 63 days rules out my sour d and GTH. GTH is not a huge yielder either. But this is for personal and a wonderful hobby for me. I am not growing for cash.
 
BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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Sour Wreck said:
Your condition of 63 days rules out my sour d and GTH. GTH is not a huge yielder either. But this is for personal and a wonderful hobby for me. I am not growing for cash.
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I have always been into math, I see it everywhere, when I start running numbers n see this pound costed me double to make vs something else , I don’t like it as much.

I do this all out of pocket for my family .
And I love to grow, it makes me happy caring for all my girls . But when I start adding it up. I got to draw a line.
My 9week rule is because I have not found any that I thought was worth the extra time .

When I’m running new, I will let them finish up to a point. (I had a sativa pheno that was cut at 12ish weeks with no signs of slowing down)
I should add I don’t go all out looking for that special pheno in a big lot of seeds .
I usually run 10 of a strain n then try the next .
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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BigHornBuds said:
I have always been into math, I see it everywhere, when I start running numbers n see this pound costed me double to make vs something else , I don’t like it as much.

I do this all out of pocket for my family .
And I love to grow, it makes me happy caring for all my girls . But when I start adding it up. I got to draw a line.
My 9week rule is because I have not found any that I thought was worth the extra time .

When I’m running new, I will let them finish up to a point. (I had a sativa pheno that was cut at 12ish weeks with no signs of slowing down)
I should add I don’t go all out looking for that special pheno in a big lot of seeds .
I usually run 10 of a strain n then try the next .
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You are missing out on some very nice uplifting, energetic, creativity inducing sativas, but to each his own. I completely understand
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Sour Wreck said:
Germination rates and the high

I heard they lost their parents in the early 2000’s and again around 07...
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Ive been running this strain for about 5 years. Huge yield, super stable, indestructable, super super super tasty... my biggest problem was keeping colas off the floor. Did i say it was tasty?

ill admit that it isnt the most potent... But it does get the job done decently....

Me and my pals love it
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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Gquebed said:
Ive been running this strain for about 5 years. Huge yield, super stable, indestructable, super super super tasty... my biggest problem was keeping colas off the floor. Did i say it was tasty?

ill admit that it isnt the most potent... But it does get the job done decently....

Me and my pals love it
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i smoked some AK-47 from serious seeds back in 01-02 and blew it my doors off. its not the same anymore.
 
Shua1991

Shua1991

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Sour Wreck said:
Your condition of 63 days rules out my sour d and GTH. GTH is not a huge yielder either. But this is for personal and a wonderful hobby for me. I am not growing for cash.
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I had to get rid of my Malawi because she would flower 100-110days on average, you'd have to incrimentally harvest her tops first at 100, and avoid stressing her so that the lowers didn't pop nanners, I gave her away to a sativa fanatic friend of mine, nothing in his garden under 77 days. I really want that girl back, since I'm searching for males this year, I'm hoping 2019 to be a full year of personal hybrids using her and a few others. This thread really motivated me to downsize my crops to maybe 10-20 per strain instead of 40-100 as I used find that to be the best representation of what a strain is(good variety if phenitypes expressing themselves). More variety, more odds at finding which cross is worth devoting time to.
 
Shua1991

Shua1991

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Sour Wreck said:
i smoked some AK-47 from serious seeds back in 01-02 and blew it my doors off. its not the same anymore.
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Back in 2008 I grew Nirvana's Power Plant(Durban hybrid), it was the best sativa high I had for years after, I can remember a friend who after finishing the joint, he got up and started running circles around the block "I feel fast, I feel fast!", That's another strain I want to revisit, but I'm not sure how diluted the PPP is today, considering it's nirvana, they likely mixed a bit more skunk to it than the stuff they had in 07-08.
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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Gquebed said:
Thats what i hear.
But that doesnt mean it isnt still good.
In fact, compared to some of the top strains that have been coming out in recent years, its still far better.
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no disrespect intended, but i have a sour diesel clone and a ghost train haze clone that are very much as good as the old AK-47. imo....
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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Shua1991 said:
I had to get rid of my Malawi because she would flower 100-110days on average, you'd have to incrimentally harvest her tops first at 100, and avoid stressing her so that the lowers didn't pop nanners, I gave her away to a sativa fanatic friend of mine, nothing in his garden under 77 days. I really want that girl back, since I'm searching for males this year, I'm hoping 2019 to be a full year of personal hybrids using her and a few others. This thread really motivated me to downsize my crops to maybe 10-20 per strain instead of 40-100 as I used find that to be the best representation of what a strain is(good variety if phenitypes expressing themselves). More variety, more odds at finding which cross is worth devoting time to.
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cool, get a cut back of the Malawi and hit her up with a nice strong indica.

good luck...
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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Shua1991 said:
Back in 2008 I grew Nirvana's Power Plant(Durban hybrid), it was the best sativa high I had for years after, I can remember a friend who after finishing the joint, he got up and started running circles around the block "I feel fast, I feel fast!", That's another strain I want to revisit, but I'm not sure how diluted the PPP is today, considering it's nirvana, they likely mixed a bit more skunk to it than the stuff they had in 07-08.
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i grew aghan, misty and a few other nirvana strains back in the day. none were worth keeping except the stinky little aghani bitch. nice solid high too...

i got 2 Durban Poison's in veg (unsexed) right now.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Sour Wreck said:
no disrespect intended, but i have a sour diesel clone and a ghost train haze clone that are very much as good as the old AK-47. imo....
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I have no doubt there is better too...
Plus... each have different tastes...

I have never had a good and proper haze... and the sour diesel i have had is an ass kicker with a very disticnt tastes that... i can take or leave. But i can see why some would love it.
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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Gquebed said:
I have no doubt there is better too...
Plus... each have different tastes...

I have never had a good and proper haze... and the sour diesel i have had is an ass kicker with a very disticnt tastes that... i can take or leave. But i can see why some would love it.
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part of what makes this plant magical. so many tastes, so many smells, so many highs and it helps so many different medical issues.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Sour Wreck said:
part of what makes this plant magical. so many tastes, so many smells, so many highs and it helps so many different medical issues.
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Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah
I see what you did there.

Speaking of tastes... i had a couple buds given to me of something called Berlin Cheese. Loved it. And ever since i pick out any cheese strain instantly... and love em all...
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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Gquebed said:
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah
I see what you did there.

Speaking of tastes... i had a couple buds given to me of something called Berlin Cheese. Loved it. And ever since i pick out any cheese strain instantly... and love em all...
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that is one of the few strains i have not smoked. not sure how that has happened.

need to add some cheese to my stable :weed:
 
B

bobqp

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Shua1991 said:
I had to get rid of my Malawi because she would flower 100-110days on average, you'd have to incrimentally harvest her tops first at 100, and avoid stressing her so that the lowers didn't pop nanners, I gave her away to a sativa fanatic friend of mine, nothing in his garden under 77 days. I really want that girl back, since I'm searching for males this year, I'm hoping 2019 to be a full year of personal hybrids using her and a few others. This thread really motivated me to downsize my crops to maybe 10-20 per strain instead of 40-100 as I used find that to be the best representation of what a strain is(good variety if phenitypes expressing themselves). More variety, more odds at finding which cross is worth devoting time to.
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im growing a new zealand sativa x malawi at the moment. Im going to cross a male from karma genetics over it to bring the flowering time under 100 days. I have a lemon skunk strain. mexican x skunk x ledo uno . 10 week strain. Super lemon smell. Crossed gth1 over gorilla bomb to create a 9 week sativa.
 
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Smoking Loon

Smoking Loon

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BigHornBuds said:
Do you ever keep a cut around for any length of time? When your popping so many seeds of lots of strains and different phenos , how do you keep track with drying n curing. So they don’t get mixed up
What is needed for you to keep a plant around for the long term?

I would love to pop seeds like you, but I’m sure I’d end up loosing something special in the mix with to many going at once .

I have my girls that I always run then I
pop 5 ish seeds , grow them out n take a clone , as soon as I see a root into flower .
Then depending on what’s happening with the clone , I’ll start killing the plants off. Then I run the ones that made it .
Then after that crop, I’ll only keep the best
Then I do it again with the other half of the pack , then take the best one .
Then I compare to my fire to see if it makes the cut .

I’m always looking for a strain that I want to keep around . It’s not easy, I’m too picky .
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Ive been known to cut and label clones, then put them in the fridge (stems in water), for a couple weeks until i sex my mother/father plants and select keepers. I think ive been able to keep clones in the fridge up to a few months successfully, but if your not worried about plant count just label the shit out of everything and trash 'em as you determine your keepers.
 
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