mueller wants to interview trump

greg nr

greg nr

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TacoMac said:
They started impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton for getting a blow job from an intern of legal age.

Several of Trumps team have been arrested and/or plead guilty already to obstruction charges, yet Trump has not yet been even subpoenaed yet, let alone charged.

If that's not a double standard, I don't know what is.
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Not that I don't sympathize, but impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one. There is no generally accepted definition of a "high crime" or a "misdameaner" in the sense of the constitutional requirements. It's basically anything that a simple majority of house members say it is.

Impeachment in itself doesn't remove a president until 67 senators vote to agree during a formal set of hearings in the senate.

An indictment is a criminal process. It is handled through the courts.

Clinton was never charged criminally; the testimony he gave was part of a civil case.

Two different paths. One removes a president from office, the other does not.

In what could be an absolutely bizzare outcome, you could have a sitting president convicted in a federal court of felonies and still be the president. If congress doesn't remove him, he still has all the powers and trappings of the office.

Not that would be something to see.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Commycharb said:
maybe mueller could be convinced to hoop a aids filled syringe and stab trump in the face. It wouldn't solve the donald problem right away but it would send a strong message to tyrants world wide.
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Better yet, fill the syringe with truth serum. Trump telling the truth for more than five minutes would trigger a brain hemorrhage or a conviction or both..
 
Commycharb

Commycharb

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lets not start the rush hating. They simply do not deserve to be compared to trump or even mentioned in the same sentence. Their not evil.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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greg nr said:
Not a legal scholar by any means, but I come down on the side of he "should" be charged while in office if the crime is a major felony and national security is at stake. I'm of the opinion that nobody should be above the law, most certainly the president.

I don't want to see us get to the point that a president can be harrassed over petty, irrelevant issues. But treason, or major obstruction, especially if it includes conspiracy, certainly meets the criteria I would like to see a president held to.
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I'm not a legal scholar either. I got sick of academics when I used up my gi bill. I went for a while though and I always got good marks. I'm just trying to start a debate. I'm actually hoping to read some opinions regarding whether or not people here think that the fascist carrot should be indicted before impeached. I think it is possible that you and I know the most about this subject, at least in this thread.
 
StoneyStonebreaker

StoneyStonebreaker

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abandonconflict said:
I'm not a legal scholar either. I got sick of academics when I used up my gi bill. I went for a while though and I always got good marks. I'm just trying to start a debate. I'm actually hoping to read some opinions regarding whether or not people here think that the fascist carrot should be indicted before impeached. I think it is possible that you and I know the most about this subject, at least in this thread.
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Maybe some of us here think POTUS is doing a great job. Don't bring up Sessions. Sessions is his own asshole and POTUS knows he has more important policies on his plate than cannabis. Whether we want to admit it or not, we will never be truely free to use cannabis as we see fit until the States have fought for their rights to govern in the Supreme Court. This issue is bigger than pot, and cuts to the core of what America was intended to be, a collection of states, with strong governments, united by a federal government with very specific and limited powers.
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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StoneyStonebreaker said:
Maybe some of us here think POTUS is doing a great job. Don't bring up Sessions. Sessions is his own asshole and POTUS knows he has more important policies on his plate than cannabis. Whether we want to admit it or not, we will never be truely free to use cannabis as we see fit until the States have fought for their rights to govern in the Supreme Court. This issue is bigger than pot, and cuts to the core of what America was intended to be, a collection of states, with strong governments, united by a federal government with very specific and limited powers.
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look at your avatar. can you see what this line of thinking has done to your hair? your hair is trying to get away from your brain :o:shock:
 
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