Commandertrichome
Member
Right now i use ocean forest and botanicares chemicals. I am thinking about trying the super soil and their potting soil. Has anyone used this before? Can i use my chemicals with it?
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bullSnot
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guess not huh? Well go ahead be a MASS WHOLE and tell us if it has bugs....any good start up company would be scanning these blogs and putting in fake reviews...so they are either HONEST,LAZY or STUPID.
Check out the complaint on them at RIPOFF REPORT...to start a soil company you should have someone with a degree in agriculture of sorts.
Check out the complaint on them at RIPOFF REPORT...to start a soil company you should have someone with a degree in agriculture of sorts.
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First Amendment Soil
Member
Hi There,
We would be honored if you wanted to try our soil. Our goal is to provide natural gardening solution and local jobs. The Super Soil is much stronger than typical potting soils. You can use the potting soil or milder soils with fertilizers or amendments, the more super soil you use, the less fertilizers would be needed. You can layer the soils to do a water only grow. There are 1000s of gardens, both hobby and professional, using these soils in combination to achieve a chemical free grow. We have full time production shops working for pros both in Colorado and Maine.
First Amendment Soil
Member
Thanks for being blunt. I was not aware that the forums were still this active, but rest assure that there are plenty of folks using the products or surely we would not make them in volume. We are from a previous generation not so present on the interweb. We do not do fake reviews, never have. Sad that this would be the standard. We used to scan the boards here and there, but just happened to come across this one today. We just focus on making great soil and the rest came on its own. We starting mixing based on demand, it was not our idea to start a company, that came from growers around Mass and Maine.
The complaint on rip off report is unfortunate, because it is not accurate and undermines the work and investment of so many to move this industry forward, especially locally where we operate. A number of other growers received the same soil from the same raw ingredients at the same time as the grower that posted and were contacted with no issues reported, great results. All raw ingredients were tested with no issues. The grower, as we all know is managing many different variables and this was far from his first load of soil from us, the same soil each time. The grower did not want to bring back any soil for testing and proceeded to smear us on the internet as can be done these days, posting negative specs on our products that are not even attainable using ingredients we use. It does not make it true, reflective or reasonable.
I am the owner, and formulator of the soils. They have been in use for about 6 years with great results and constant expansion. I do have a strong background and degrees in agriculture, biometrics and plant science....I would be glad to discuss any of these topics in detail or at length. This development process has been going on for us longer than the poster on Rip off report has been alive. There have been endless trials and experiments to get us where we are today. This took far more skill and focus than posting a bad review because something was not done right in the garden.
We solve people's soil problems, we do not create them. If you would like a sample, feel free to reach out to us via traditional means.
BigDaddyBeaf
New Member
Well Mr Soil, you just sold the fuckin shit outta me!!! I was going to start mixing my own shit but seeing as I'm really new, my first plant just friggin hermed with 2-3 weeks left in flower, and I really liked that reply...I mean I REALLY liked that reply. Your patience, professionalism and knowledge just blew my socks off brother. So, I'm not going to take any chances just yet, and I'm going right to Hydro-Earth and buying whatever size bag they tell me I need.
What do you suggest for my seedlings? Put the cubes straight into your soil, or use roots or something until transplant? Thanks for your help!
BigDaddyBeaf
New Member
I just visited your website. I see you have different bags and now I'm a little more confused. Obviously I'm going to buy your seedling bag...that answers that question. When I transplant, after the 2nd or 3rd node grows, I'll transplant into the second level bag? If that's right, do I transplant again into the supersoil? I'm hoping for a Soil that requires no, or little, topdressing. Thanks again
First Amendment Soil
Member
Thanks!!
First Amendment Soil
Member
Hi There - thanks for using our soils and keeping it local! I think I just responded to your email, but I will post the reply here for others.....
The bag you purchased should have a detailed label on it, but if not there are some visuals attached. There are many ways to skin the cat but here is my suggestion. Soil strength or nutrient feeding is proportional to the amount of foliage on the plant and/or the rate of growth.
Start with Seedling Mix (1/2 pepper) and/or Potting Soil (1 pepper) for seedlings or clones. Plants less than 6-12" should not go in hotter soil generally. Once they are about 12" and growing more and more each day, showing some vigor, you can transition to a stronger soil. Potting Soil can also be used in combination with amendments or fertilizers to finish the grow if you don't want to use stronger soil. Most bagged mixes are 1.5 Pepper in strength, to give you perspective.
Our Master's Mix (2 Pepper) is then the next step if you want to go that route, once the small plants are growing rapidly and about 12" tall. Master's Mix is good for Vegging with little to no nutrients. It can also be used as a stand alone mix from this point on like the Potting Soil, just requiring less additional amendments or feeding. You can continue to veg in Master's mix, even topdress with some Super Soil (5 Pepper) if you want to boost. Keep in mind topdressing like this will likely have a 2-7 day delay for a response as the solubles in the Super Soil need time to work down into the existing root system via watering.
For Bloom, we suggest transplanting a week or so before you start to flower. You can then go a number of directions. Potting or Masters with additional feeding is one option. The most common would be to layer Super Soil in the bottom of the pot and then fill in the balance around the transplant with Master's or Potting. The first time we suggest around 30% Super Soil at the bottom and leaving a couple inches open at the top of the pot for space to topdress Super Soil as needed. The average grower may end up at 50% Super Soil after a run or two....some strains may take more, the most aggressive will be able to grow in 100% Super Soil, but you never want to over do it. By starting with 30% and then adding some as topdressing every week or two, you will get a good idea of what the strain can take and then add more to the bottom of the pot the next round and less as topdressing, eventually finding a happy medium.
You can also use the layer method in veg, just use much less Super Soil...perhaps only an inch or two. One nice thing about this is you will certainly know when the roots hit the bottom of the pot and are ready for transplant as you should see a burst of growth as a result of the Super Soil.
We generally suggest that even if you find the balance in a water only system, using our soils in layers or otherwise, that a topdressing of Super Soil around week 3-4 of bloom is still helpful. Plants want a lot of nutrition at that phase, especially more P and K. By adding an inch or two of Super at this time, you will see a boost in the plants production around week 4 or 5 as the soil solubles work their way down, when we typically boost. You can also use other fertilizers to boost if you desire, but you can reach your goals without doing so.
Keep in mind that these are 4 tools (soils) that can be used a number of ways, by having an array of increasing strengths, you can still pick, choose, layer, etc. to be the master of your garden. Always start lighter and work your way up, you are better off with slightly less yield and healthy plants vs. over feeding and burning them. After a cycle or two, you will find a happy middle ground between your plants, other variables and our soils.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
First Amendment Soil Company - 207-769-2326 720-939-0377
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