MA GHS WWX 2015/16..

Early 2015 I took a nice mother from Green House Seeds White Widow

and crossed it with an unknown Sativa


The purpose: pros / cons

GHS WW:
pros:
- very nice resin coverage
- very nice taste
- Short flowering time
- Zero stretch during flower cycle
- Very dank buds
- Very strong branches @ nodes
- full strong and filled in stem

cons:
- Very slow growth
- very short stature
- very couch locking, sleepy stone
- moderate leaf to bud ratio (more than I'd like)

Sativa pollen donor:
pros:
- very rigorous growth
- Tall plant
- Sativa head trip
- incredibly tight nodal spacing on trunk and branch (1"-3")
- many branches
- many bud sites
- low leaf to bud ratio

cons:
- >10 wk flowering period
- very tall and fast
- rapid unrelenting stretch during flowering
(As you can see from the above picture, the sativa plant was once lst'd right horizontal but at a later date was allowed to resume vertical growth for reasons that do not have consequence now)

The hopes of this cross where for a widow like hybrid that was:
- mostly sativa
- faster growth
- taller stature
- more bud sites
- more branching
- moderate yielder
- higher potency
- retention of resin formation
- strong nodes @ branch base
- ~9 wk flower period

Growing medium:
- 20L coco
- 20 L perlite
- 1 bag vermiculite
- "Grow Rocks" for hempy bucket rez

Containers
- seedling cups
- 1L pots
- 2L pots
- 5 Gallon Fabric pots to finish (first but have now switched to)
- 3.5 Gallon hempy buckets to finish

Lights
- CFL for clones, mothers and early veg
- 400W MH for Veg
- 600W HPS & 600W MH for flower (sometimes 600w, 600w+400w, 600w+600w combinations of HPS and MH depending on what I feel needs to be in there)

Advanced Nutrients used through out.

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Aug 30/15: 21 seeds germinated

Sept 20/15: 7 where chosen to grow out based on rigour and health

Oct 1/15: Run off was not all drained and some root suffocation/rot problems holding up progress

Oct 11/15: Transplant to 2L pots, switched from 288w cfl to 400w MH

Oct 25/15: Root problems all cleared up, plants are all recovered and vigorous again

Oct 31/15: All WWX ID for favourable traits (A lot of colour is coming out of these hybrids that where not showing in their parents! Red, blue, purple, magenta)

ID: WWX F1: (1-7)
A) Tall, purplest, light grassy skunk smell (M)
B) Tall, very heavy skunk aroma, the smelliest, very little purple (F)
C) Shortest, less purple, light grassy smell (F)
D) Short-Medium height, light grass smell, less purple (F)
E) Med. height, skunk smell, light purple (M)
F) Tall, grass smell, more purple (M)
G) Med. height, grass smell, less purple (F)

Early November topping, lst, manifolding and cuttings taken

Nov 21/15: all seven moved to flower

Nov 28/15: Males are found and culled (A, F & E) but a clone of male A as been kept for breeding

Dec 1/15: SPIDER MITES. battled with neem, and other measures.... fawk. thanks hydro store. shame on me for not changing clothes and showering first... ALWAYS CHANGE AND SHOWER! WASH YOUR PURCHASES!

Dec 7/15: WWX C is sick and just not going to make it. Culled. D is also culled later.

Jan 1/16: Only WWX G & B remain. B is struggling from the ordeal with the mites and it's remedies.

WWX F1 G: the winner and the one who will take a load from male A
- Taller than the rest (more sativa?)
- Bigger faster budding than the others (health reasons)
- No purples
- Stem smells (when scratched) like 1) Coffee, 2) Honey Sweet, 3) Ammonia
- Bud has very little smell a bit sweet and floral
- Buds are DENSE
- Decent amount of resin production, WW mother is coming through


I really wish things would have gone smoother. Those mites and the remedies really fuct things up. How ever I do have surviving healthy cuttings of all the Females in veg right now. So I will go through the precess of selection of a mother again. WWxG will be made a mother this run regardless. WWxG's cutting will also be kept as a mother for future clones at this point. Even WWxG is not at her full potential which is evident in the pics in the following post.

I had another GHS WW mother being kept for back crossing but the mites their toll. She was too sick to keep. She still rooted cuttings but they where not growing despite their health looking and fast root mass.

WWxG, she's had a bit of a tough go. 6 wks into flower.


WWxG in the back right. Clearly doing the best in comparison to her sisters.

The Family tree goes (links included for GHS & Mr. Nice)


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Identifying Dominant traits so far:

Height
A: short
a: tall

Coloured stems:
B: no colours
b: purple/red (can be split into gene pairs again but I havnt gone that far)

Smell
C: mild smell
c: strong smell


Other traits like bud size, bud density, distance between nodes, resin formation, flower stretch, node size, etc have not been able to be accurately identified within a reasonable estimate.


A picture of the male donor's flashy magenta stems. They do not seem to be directly related to deficiency, although any deficiencies in phosphorous, PH fluctuation and colder room temperatures may cause them to flare up.

I adjusted the colour in the above picture to illustrait what you see IRL. An unadulterated picture is in the thumbnail below. Darker lighting and my camera phone is not bringing it to life properly.



The traits of this male are:

• possibly a little more stretchy but it has been in a window sill in a completely different building just in case it pops and Im not ready. So it's looking for the light outside.
• the most coloured stems out of all the 21 seedlings.
• very fast rigorous growth most likely due to its sativa father and the fact that it too is male.
• it was the tallest of all the 21 seedlings, leaning on the Sativa side
• smells heavily of lemons and skunk

Being a hobbiest I am not looking to sell my seeds through a seed bank. I do not have the means or the capabilities atm to seriously pioneer a brand new IBL strain. What I am focusing on are simple things that are important to me for this strain line:

1. Colourful
2. LOTS OF RESIN, a sparkling mine of diamonds in the dark
3. Nice Medium - Large buds, but top shelf
4. Sativa head trip
5. Fun to grow, beautiful to look at. Art.

Keep forgetting to post this... I stress tested these out with alternating lighting schedules a few times. I was also helped out by some stormy power outages.

I have fucked with the lights enough to make some of my other females from a different strain herm out. All my WWx's have NOT hermied. I keep an eye out just in case anyway with daily bud site inspection.

This is important because TO ME it is important that I dont create a strain of cross dressers.

So far so good. I think it is reasonable to assume their are no herm traits.

Clones are doing good in thier 3.5gal Hempy buckets. Double their height and it will be into the flower room.

Back row: WWxC, WWxB & WWxD on the right; a noticeabley sativa pheno.
Front left: a strain I call Quadra will see its final run. She is a delicious indica hybrid that smells like heaven and smokes deliciously smooth DAF but she is easily hermied. The mother WWxG on the front right.

Looking forward to the flower room. Hopefully no issues this time. Shouldn't be as all are healthy.

WWxG has got a name, Bali Raj

Buds are developing a very nice bouquet of very pungent sweet honey/agave, pineapple, Neroli and ammonia.

WWxG (Bali Raj) cutings in the 17 site clone machine.

Veg tent: 2 different pheno's according to stature. (a Northern Lights front right, Q3 back left)

WWxG Bali Raj mother

WWxA the pollinator.


WWxG and Q(3) in the chamber of love with WWxA [WWxB on the right was removed]

Harvested the top cola's of WWxG and Q3. Got the bottom halves seeded. Moved the 2 prego plants to the smaller veg tent to finish.

WWxG

Q3

Moved the the veg tenters to the main flower tent.
WWxG (Bali Raj), WWxC (sat.dom), WWxB (sat.dom) WWxD (indi.dom), Q3 (different strain) & the one pick of the litter Northern Lights.


The 6 cuttings of WWxG are rooted in the cloner @ 10 days and will pot later today.
Will take new cuttings of WWxC and the Northern Lights plant I have later today or tomorrow.

I can only flower 4 plants of this size in the 4x4 so I will have to make choices and cull 2 plants. I am leaning on the WWxC/B getting chopped from the mix.

Started vegging with HPS instead of MH to try and encourage "faster" growth and a bit more stretch to get the girls ready to take over the vert trellis.

Until the vertical LST and flowering there really is not much to see.