Looking to buy White Widdow, which breeder to choose?

I can agree about research three years reading and watching and still can't decide which
one to grow I don't have the time to waste on reg seeds did that with tga ten pack six males
didn't waste time with the rest might do a dinafem and ghs widow grow comparison this year

Check out feminised seeds company at attitude,they're claiming to have the best white widow ever...

jagdog3 said:

Check out feminised seeds company at attitude,they're claiming to have the best white widow ever...

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Sorry but I can't help this...I am sure they are not going to claim they are shitty. Many claim they have the best genetics, they want to sell their seeds. I only know that when it comes to the WW, Shantibaba created the strain. Arjan and the monkey boy tried to pass it off as their own. FAIL! Shantibaba took his genetics and went and played in a better yard.

yeah i know they all toot their horn but they were really blowing theirs...I know nothing about their stuff,never heard of them until now...

Black widow is the real white widow man...

Ravenchild said:

I just wanna know out of all the replys who actually grew out either Black Widobutw or white widow
and from who cause I know alot of people just go along cuz of word of mouth or just cuz one created it
doesn't make it the best but I would try dinafem just cause I rarely find a bad grows or complaints
noob friendly and usually better then what most expect

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While I have not grown every single breeder's own version of White Widow it has been something of a hobby in trying them so I know how they are compared to the original. which has clearly been mentioned, Mr. Nice Seeds Black Widow.

I have never had a knockoff that was bad, but none have been real close or matched the original, let alone top it. Some are darn good strains, but they really should have different names to them because they are not Black Widow, either genetically or when it comes to it's high/stone and all else that goes with it.

If you want what's likely the closest knockoff, try De Sjamaan's White Widow. Like Mr. Nice Seeds Black Widow, it only comes in regular seeds. If you want the best version of White Widow in a feminized seed that is likely found from White Label Seeds.

Both are quality bud, I am sure you would be very satisfied with either. But neither are the Real McCoy and the real McCoy will not be found from anyone other than Scott Blakey (AKA Shantibaba)/Mr. Nice Seeds.

bkbbudz said:

I only know that when it comes to the WW, Shantibaba created the strain. Arjan and the monkey boy tried to pass it off as their own. FAIL! Shantibaba took his genetics and went and played in a better yard.

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It happened somewhat different than that, but the ending was close enough.

@ bkbbudz and smokey mcsmokester,i was replying to ravenchild,he's wanting fem seeds which mr. nice does not have....

Micobfsb said:

Ive heard WW strains being 8 weeks but beans davis is saying 75 days? I thought for sure DP won the CC with WW, am I wrong? Also, is there a big difference between white widow and black widow? also, how do we know that white widow is a knock off of black widow? Does everyone agree that black widow is better than WW?

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you're wrong bro

green house, MR.NICE!!, DINAFEM (U.F.O.)

ravenchild said:

i just wanna know out of all the replys who actually grew out either black widobutw or white widow
and from who cause i know alot of people just go along cuz of word of mouth or just cuz one created it
doesn't make it the best but i would try dinafem just cause i rarely find a bad grows or complaints
noob friendly and usually better then what most expect

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i've grown a few

Micobfsb said:

I thought for sure DP won the CC with WW, am I wrong? Also, is there a big difference between white widow and black widow?

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White Widow - Dutch Flowers - Second Place Bio-Cup - High Times Cannabis Cup Competition.

First place went to Shantibaba and what he now calls Black Widow.



Strain: White Widow
Breeder: De Sjamaan
Location: indoor, outdoor, greenhouse
Type: mostly sativa
Flowering: ~63 days
No feminized seeds.
De Sjamaan - White Widow

Type: Brazilian x South Indian; Sativa/Indica 60/40
Since White Widow® placed 1st, in the High Times cannabis Cup bio category 1995, WW has become an infamous breed in the world of cannabis. A variety of White Widow can be found in almost any coffee shop in Amsterdam and the rest of the Netherlands. The most rewarded cannabis plant of recent years in Holland. White Widow is a compact marijuana plant of medium height. It caries killers crystals, the plants of THC glands, even on big parts of the fan leaves. A very soft smoke and great "high". White widow is really blessed. It is the most wanted marihuana plant to grow. Are you ready to discover why White Widow has won all these awards?

Indoor flowering: 56-70 days
Outdoor flowering time: 70 to 84 days or end of October
Indoor yield: up to 500 grams per m2
Buzz: even body head
Taste/Smell: fresh, fruity, floral


10-times Cupwinner!

• 3. Place HLC 2006
• 3. Place HLC 2005
• 2. Place HLC 2004
• 1. Place HLC 2003
• 2. Place HLC 2003
• 3. Place HLC 2003
• 3. Place HTCC 1998
• 1. Place HTCC 1995
• 1. Place HTCC 1995
• 2. Place HTCC 1995

Winner of 14 cannabis cups.

White Widow® is a registered brand

Cup-Winnings (not in our database)
* Highlife cup 1999 2nd prize Growshop hydro
* Highlife cup 1999 2nd prize Coffeeshop bio
* High Times cup 1996 1st prize Nederhash (Hashish made from White Widow)



Strain Lineage / Genealogy / Family Tree

• White Widow »»» White Widow The Original
• White Widow
  • »»» Brazil x India
  • Brazil »»» Sativa
  • India »»» Indica

But no feminized seeds and if that is important, than White Label Seeds is the place to go for the best feminized White Widow.



White Label - White Widow

The backbone of the Dutch coffee-shop industry, the first of the `white` strains and an all-round commercial success story, White Widow is one of the most famous names in modern growing. While this is partly due to the memorable name, her speed, yield and stunningly thick resin coating have a lot more to do with it!

Mostly-Indica, with sweet, thick, acrid smoke that imparts a hammering stone, White Widow is a major part of many visitors` first experience of Amsterdam.

FLOWERING: 50 - 65 DAYS
HEIGHT: 110-150cm
YIELD: up to 150g
Feminised Indica/Sativa

Strain: White Widow
Breeder: White Label
Location: indoor, outdoor
Type: indica/sativa
Flowering: ~58 days
Normal or female seeds.

User-Generated Strain-Profile

Known Phenotypes: » new » none up to now (homogenous??)
For this strain we got input by 2 user(s). Here a short overview:

Flowering Time Indoor: 43 - 55 days (~49 days)
Yield / Quantity Indoor: The crop of this strain is insane high and absolutely top yields.
General Impression Indoor: is all together insane strain - absolutely recommendable.
Harvest Time Outdoor: Middle of October in C[SUP]l[/SUP]Sh[SUP]β[/SUP] climates.
Strength / Lasting Effect: The weed is very strong and long lasting.
Yield / Quantity Outdoor: The crop of this strain is insane high and absolutely top yields.
General Impression Outdoor: is all together insane strain - absolutely recommendable.
Votings of our users: White Widow gets 9.75 of 10 possible Points in the average!
More Info: Please click here to see the full Plant-Profile!





White Widow (White Label) :: StrainReview :: Indoor Review :: No.14750863707049974 by roach

• White Widow
• Reviews
  • Indoor
  • Outdoor

Plant-Profile about White Widow (by White Label)

This Plant-Profile is a individual expression by roach, uploaded at the 25.08.2010.
Information about the growth of the plants:


Flowering Time Indoor: Between 43 an 55 days (Average: 49 days.)
Stretch after the initiation of flowering: ~ 208 Percent
Initiation of flowering onto around 65 cm. - Final Height onto around 200 cm.
Growth Behavior: Bushy; Squat; Like a christmas tree; Strong; Sturdy; Fast
Side Branches: a great many; very long as well as extremely strong and vigorous.

The plants of this Cannabis-Strain...
...can be placed close together.
...do not need much care.
...are tolerant to over- or under-fertilization.
...do not need much fertilizer.
...are not vulnerable to fungal diseases.
...are susceptible to mold.
...are tolerant of temperature fluctuations.
...have no problems with low temperatures.
...have no problems with high temperatures.
...looks and grow more like a Sativa.
...need a lot of room upward.
...are well suited for a SoG (See of Green).
...are well suited for a ScroG (Screen of Green).
...are a good choice for beginners.
...are a good choice for commercial cultivation.
...are well suited to Supercropping.
...build many, thick buds on the side branches.
...respond well to the pruning of the main stem.
...can build pre flowers into the growth period.
Harvest, Yield, Taste, Aroma, strength and effectiveness

Yield / Quantity: The crop of this strain is insane high and absolutely top yields.
Buds / Leaves: The ratio of buds to leaves is absolute peak.
Bud Structure: The dried buds are very hard and very compact.
General Impression

White Widow (White Label)
(Indoor)
is all together insane strain - absolutely recommendable
(On average 10 Points onto a scale between 0 and 10 !)




White Widow (White Label) :: StrainReview :: Outdoor Review :: No.95216871944777549 by csimbok

• White Widow
• Reviews
  • Outdoor
  • Indoor

Plant-Profile about White Widow (by White Label)

This Plant-Profile is a individual expression by csimbok, uploaded at the 04.03.2010.
Information about the growth of the plants:


Harvest Time Outdoor:
Middle of October in C[SUP]l[/SUP]Sh[SUP]β[/SUP] climates at the northern hemisphere.
Climate zones according to the SeedFinder classification with actual data from 1986-2009

The weather in the growing area:
Cannabis-Plants into this zone can be cultivated from April to October. The plants will start flowering around July when the days slowly become shorter.

Growth Behavior: Like a christmas tree; Strong
Side Branches: extremely many; extremely long as well as extremely strong and vigorous.

The plants of this Cannabis-Strain...
...need place and should not be placed close together.
...need much care.
...are tolerant to over- or under-fertilization.
...need much fertilizer.
...are not vulnerable to fungal diseases.
...are not susceptible to mold.
...are tolerant of temperature fluctuations.
...have no problems with low temperatures.
...have no problems with high temperatures.
...are a good choice for beginners.
...are a good choice for commercial cultivation.
...can build pre flowers into the growth period.
Harvest, Yield, Taste, Aroma, strength and effectiveness

Yield / Quantity: The crop of this strain is insane high and absolutely top yields.
Buds / Leaves: The ratio of buds to leaves is super.
Bud Structure: The dried buds are hard and compact.
Strength / Lasting Effect: The weed is very strong and long lasting.
Tolerance Built: quasi not any tolerance education.
The weed effect

Effect / Effectiveness Head; Activate; Body
General Impression

White Widow (White Label)
(Outdoor)
is all together insane strain - absolutely recommendable
(On average 10 Points onto a scale between 0 and 10 !)

Yes.
I aint done GHS. But i grown a few other > MNS BW, Nirvana and seedsman.

The best one was the MNS. Granted i ad a few phenos that went from 8-1/2 to 11 weeks but they were good plants.
Nirvanas isnt that great tbh i thought they skanked me with something else.
Seedsmans. If you going to get the reg. fem is wank




I been looking at WL and TFDs score over at seedfinder both 10 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Like said by many get the mns black widow.. I grew white widow in 2008 and it was some fire.. Now I have some black widow beans because I want to see how it differs.

If someone is on a tighter budget and wants something at least somewhat close to the real deal, Seedsman Seeds White Widow is not a bad option. It is not the best knockoff White Widow I have tried, but I would call it a good value. What you get in return for how little you pay, that makes it a good value, a better value than the one most White Widow knockoffs give you.

Brick Top said:

If someone is on a tighter budget and wants something at least somewhat close to the real deal, Seedsman Seeds White Widow is not a bad option. It is not the best knockoff White Widow I have tried, but I would call it a good value. What you get in return for how little you pay, that makes it a good value, a better value than the one most White Widow knockoffs give you.

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Did you do the Fem or Regs? Im guessing Reg...

I done both, Reg when he bought them out about 2007-8ish and when i kicked back of last season I tried the fem (downsized my home so could not select at the time)
well long story short it was wank. compared to the reg.

Not tighter budget just tight on space got a g13bbg and two ch9 bubba kush under
a 150hps only got room for one more but the white label and female versions look like
they could be winners

I smoked some ww out of cali. & loved it so i grew ww from 3 breeders & none was like the ww from cali.G13 labs was single cola pure indica 8 1/2wks good indica smoke.(blue venom freebie was much better than hi $ grape god i bought)GHS ww was not good at all,it never really took off stayed behind everything else low yield not even average smoke.Dinafem was the best & closest to what i smoked.I cut mine at 8 1/2wks witch was way to soon my friend took his to 75dys and it was kill.I have another friend who will be starting df ww in month 1/2 and he will thread it on riu.
I ONLY GREW 1 OF EACH SO???
I need to grow fems now(even tho i'm buying regs and storing for when you can't get anymore)BRICK T. said white label in fems so i'll go with his experience and try them.
Maybe i'm chasing ghost, who knows what ww i got out of cali?
The high had nice head with good body and was very strong & happy combo stone.

beans davis said:

I agree Mr. nice bw,if i wanted fems i would go with dinafem ww at 75dys they are covered in crystals.Shanti publicly said he brought kilos of his seeds to spain and dinafem addmited to feming his strains and thanked him on the web.Look on their sites and see how many strains are the same only fems with different names.Critical mass & critical+ for 1 example.

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dinafem white widow=JJJJJunk. the fuckers all were dwarfs

canna_420 said:

Did you do the Fem or Regs? Im guessing Reg...

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Normally when talking about what I would do that would be a very safe guess to make. But while I am not a feminized seed lover I decided to give them a try.

Now and then I will pick a couple strains that a good number of people are talking about and as long as they are not from one or three certain breeders, I give them a try and go with whatever most of the people went with, as in feminized if both feminized and regular are offered.

So that run I had Seedsman Seeds White Widow from feminized seeds and Big Buddha Blue Cheese from feminized seeds.

Neither are in danger of becoming future Hall of Fame inductees, but in both cases, what was got in return for so little paid, I had to consider each a value. The Blue Cheese was a bit on the nute sensitive side, but I expected that so it was not a shock.

For someone short of coin, when they go genetics shopping, they could do a whole lot worse for the same amounts of money than they could do picking either strain.