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outlier

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Just got myself one of those. 2 weeks of heavy use (new toy - testing anything liquid) and it's still giving perfect readings according to the calibration solution. My girls are loving me for that investment :D

My bro has the cheap Chinese knock off TDS-3 you see floating around ebay/amazon. Placed it in the calibration solution for him the other day and it was 4 ppm out after about a year of medium'ish use. I was quite surprised to say the least considering you could buy 3 - 4 of them for the price of one hm.

Same with the cheap Milwaukee rip off you see on ebay/amazon. It seems to hold calibration for a few days with frequent use. And is accurate enough to get the job done.

Seems if you look after the cheap imitations, the work just as well. For a small time enthusiast, they definitely get the job done.
 

big-eared bandit

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Id definately get some nitrozime to speed up that recovery . Most importantly do not send that into flowering any time soon. Give a few weeks of recovery. Try putting a airstone in res and oxygenate the water. If the roots are fked u can try a light hydrogen peroxide mix to kill pythium or w.e has affected ur roots. Keep in mind now that ur in soil it will prolly kill ur beneficial micro's so id suggest water flushing after doing the hydrogen peroxide mix. Do some research before doing it but i believe its 1 tsp per gallon. Once u flush after peroxide watering water with 1/4 strength and introduce micro back into soil. Not sure if you have already flushed, if u did id just leave it alone.
Okay I'll check it out! The ph pen and the peroxide... Yea its in soil now so no need for airstones. I haven't flushed yet but I will soon! Thanks and if I have any more questions I will ask!
 

hotrodharley

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Okay I'll check it out! The ph pen and the peroxide... Yea its in soil now so no need for airstones. I haven't flushed yet but I will soon! Thanks and if I have any more questions I will ask!
pH can be tested just fine with the test strips from the swimming pool supply or Lowes/Home Depot. They require NO calibration and need no batteries. Use your money instead to buy the best EC/PPM meter you can. Order the calibration solution at the same time.
 

kcc420

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When u clone try to keep the nitrogen feeding before it on the lower side.. still cant emphasize more about grabbing some nitrozime.. 7$ on amazon for 100ml bottle.. the stuff is like human growth horomone for plants. Super steroids. Helps perk ip the plant for cloning. Keep in mind stressed plants are more prone to hermie, so watch ur plants carefully for nanners durng flower. Good luck bro :)
 

big-eared bandit

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When u clone try to keep the nitrogen feeding before it on the lower side.. still cant emphasize more about grabbing some nitrozime.. 7$ on amazon for 100ml bottle.. the stuff is like human growth horomone for plants. Super steroids. Helps perk ip the plant for cloning. Keep in mind stressed plants are more prone to hermie, so watch ur plants carefully for nanners durng flower. Good luck bro :)
So your saying I should use nitrozime for cloning or if I happen to have a sickly plant? Also, that term nanners.. Is that to describe the male plant attribute? I've only grown like 5 other plants but I've heard someone mention that before but I didn't really catch on. Lol still new
 

kcc420

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I use nitrozime 1 week before cloning, helps stimulate growth whether rooting or growing new shoots. Nitrozime helps with nutrient uptake..

Nanners can be attributed to hermies. The plant can basically self polinate itself even though it has flowers. Usually stress triggers it. Possibly genetics as well. See the picture for an example.


As for cloning are you planning on using rockwool, rapid rooters or peat pellets?
 

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big-eared bandit

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I use nitrozime 1 week before cloning, helps stimulate growth whether rooting or growing new shoots. Nitrozime helps with nutrient uptake..

Nanners can be attributed to hermies. The plant can basically self polinate itself even though it has flowers. Usually stress triggers it. Possibly genetics as well. See the picture for an example.


As for cloning are you planning on using rockwool, rapid rooters or peat pellets?
Um I wanted to use soil and go all natural but I guess that wouldn't be recommended.
So I plan on using rockwool, rooting gel, humidity dome. Might get better results that way! I've never took a clone before only grew bagseed so this should be fun!
 

big-eared bandit

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I use nitrozime 1 week before cloning, helps stimulate growth whether rooting or growing new shoots. Nitrozime helps with nutrient uptake..

Nanners can be attributed to hermies. The plant can basically self polinate itself even though it has flowers. Usually stress triggers it. Possibly genetics as well. See the picture for an example.


As for cloning are you planning on using rockwool, rapid rooters or peat pellets?
And is the Hermie from hst or lst? Cus I'm currently using the lst technique. Plus topping and fim'ing. Also I did try to super crop the very first topped branches. I know supercropping is a form of hst.
 

kcc420

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What i meant by stress is ph imbalance causing ur plants to not be able to absorb nutrients, light leaks during off hours, bugs, heat stress, light burn, over watering, under watering. Basically im referring to anything thats causing ur plant stress thats not beneficial.

Supercropping is perfectly fine just allow recovery time. Often tying down can achieve similar results without stuning it the way super cropping does. Super cropping creates stronger branches which can support more weight, however the plant requires recovery time.. Its a great technique but u need to do it juat right. Here is one of my supercropped plants in pictures from a while ago. Tying down will form similar knuckles at the leads of the branches.

Topping will create much more predictable growth. Fimming will create multiple tops but they will be quite random where they grow from. Fimming can often create tops that cant support bud weight which is where supercropping can be useful.

As for cloning, to be succesful ph ur rockwool to 5.8 . Make sure u shake out excess water, thats the main thing that will cause ur stems to rot. Do not scueeze the rockwool cube, just flick your wrist for the excess water to come out. Do that until its damp but not saturated. When u take ur clones, try to do the final 45 degree cut under water and try to do it near a node, roots grow faster. Lightly scrape the edges of the stem that are going into the rockwool. Clip 1/3 of the leave tips off the fan leaves so ur plant stops trying to grow upwards.

Day 1-4 keep humidity 90% and 72-79 degrees **dome vents closed.
Open the dome for a minute or so twice a day to let air exchange.

Day 5-6
Open vents halfway. Try to let humidity go to about 70%. Check cubes to make sure they are still damp and not dry. If dry lightly dip the bottom 1/4 of the cube in water . You should see the bottom 1/3 of the rockwool soak up water not no higherthan that. Shake out excess water.

Day 7-10

Monitor for roots. When u see roots close the dome vents and run high humidity. U can put water in the grooves of the tray at the bottom if u want..


Most importantly NEVER pour water on the rockwool from the top . It slows down the whole process.
 

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