just placed my order for equipment..

xivex

Active Member
So I finally figured out what all I need for my room setup and have been planning it out for the last 2 weeks...today I placed the order for the equipment at a local shop. Basically I've got a basement with 2 segregated rooms seperated by a doorway for about 16.5' L x 4.5' W x 10' H. 742.5 cubic feet for room volume.

After countless hours of research, many posts here, 2 books read, and various local shop owners talked to, I have got it down for my room I believe! Here's what I'm setting up this week!!

Seperate Load centers in each room with 8 individual one plug 120v outlets all on their own circuit with 20amp fuses. All will be heavy duty metal outlet boxes. All seperated by 2" spacing and wired through metal conduit. One Intermatic T101 Industrial Grade Timer for each load center board (mounting this all on plywood on the wall). I credit several of your badass setups for this electrical inspiration.

We are installing a seperate AC unit just for this basement. It will have digital thermistat and humidity/dehumidity controls for each section of the grow room.
Next we are using 6" thermal insulated ducting for seperate intake and exhaust for each section of the room and exhausting up through the roof. Using 1mil Mylar for most of the room walls also...not all the way to the 10' ceiling, but probably up to 6' high on each wall.

Flower Section -- using 3'W x 6' L tray (FLOWER) to grow in Fox Farms Ocean Forest with perlite added. Using three 400w Lumatek dial-a-watt dimmable digital ballasts with 400w Hortilux HPS bulbs and Sunlight Systems CoolSun 6" AC reflectors. Ventilation handled by 430 CFM 6" exhaust fans for cooling the lights and AC for cooling the room. Odor control by 36" long phat filter active carbon filter, CAP Ozone Jr. Generator, and 2 cans of Ona Gel. Using 16" Air King oscilatting wall mounted fan also.

Veg/Clone Section - using 3'W x 6' L tray (VEG) to grow in Fox Farms Ocean Forest with perlite added. Using three 400w Lumatek dial-a-watt dimmable digital ballasts with 400w Hortilux MH Blue Daylight Blue Base Up (the badass ones yeah!) bulbs and Sunlight Systems CoolSun 6" AC reflectors. Ventilation handled by 430 CFM 6" exhaust fans for cooling the lights and AC for cooling the room. Using 16" Air King oscilatting wall mounted fan also. Using 4' 8 tube T5 6500k Flouro Panel for clones.

Also using EZ Clone 25 machine for all clone work. ordered various nutes and additives for my babies! Can't wait to germ some of these Attitude freeebies from the Quadruple Thunder order I have sitting here!!!

What do you think? Comments, opinions?

Thanks,

X :joint:
 

fred flintstoned

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Sounds like a pretty good plan.
I'm kinda confused on the electric. Are you running 8-20amp lines or one 20amp per room? Make sure you have enough power to run everything. 20 amps per room is enough, just barely. Doesn't leave a lot of space for upgrades.( you know you're gonna do it !) 1200W is gonna use about 11amps for the lights alone. You could probably run it all into 2 four plug boxes to save some bread.
Using air cooled lights is a good move. If you seal this room up tight, CO2 injection would be easy.I'm not sure if a 6in is gonna cool 1200W though. I run 2400w in each of my rooms. I cool my lights with 8in vortex's (745 cfm) on each end. Works well. Bigger fans save you money in the long run because you use the AC a lot less.
Those timers work like a champ. I've used them for years, never had a failure.
Your odor control seems to be overkill. Doubt you'll need the Ona. May not need the ozone with that giant Phatty. I understand wanting to be careful. I still have the Ona I bought a couple years ago, never needed it.
It seems you've thought this out very well. Good luck. Keep us posted
Fred
 

seanec327

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looks like it will be a awesome setup!!! i wouldnt bother with ozone generator and put the money into co2. you should be fine with the filter and ona if your that worried about smell haha i would also get Co2 into the flower room
 

xivex

Active Member
Sounds like a pretty good plan.
I'm kinda confused on the electric. Are you running 8-20amp lines or one 20amp per room? Make sure you have enough power to run everything. 20 amps per room is enough, just barely. Doesn't leave a lot of space for upgrades.( you know you're gonna do it !) 1200W is gonna use about 11amps for the lights alone. You could probably run it all into 2 four plug boxes to save some bread.
Using air cooled lights is a good move. If you seal this room up tight, CO2 injection would be easy.I'm not sure if a 6in is gonna cool 1200W though. I run 2400w in each of my rooms. I cool my lights with 8in vortex's (745 cfm) on each end. Works well. Bigger fans save you money in the long run because you use the AC a lot less.
Those timers work like a champ. I've used them for years, never had a failure.
Your odor control seems to be overkill. Doubt you'll need the Ona. May not need the ozone with that giant Phatty. I understand wanting to be careful. I still have the Ona I bought a couple years ago, never needed it.
It seems you've thought this out very well. Good luck. Keep us posted
Fred

Fred,

I am running 8 outlets into each room all with their own dedicated 20 amp circuit...so that should be plenty. It is indeed 8 - 20 amp lines. That's tons. With room for upgrades...in the clone / veg room I have 3 HID lights, 1 flouro panel, and 1 fan. Thats 5. I'll have 3 spare outlets rated at 20 amps each. In the flower room I'll use one less outlet even because I won't have the flouro panel. Sound good?

For the fans I was about to go with Vortex 747CFM fans but the store owner talked me out of it. He said since the AC will be seperate from the cooling ventilation ducting used for the lighting, I wouldn't need that much fan. He said a 400'ish CFM fan would be perfect. He sold me some eco line fans rated for super energy efficiency and around 400CFM.

Yeah I was wondering if the Phat Filter 39" would be too big. If so, I can always exchange it and use the little brother instead thats a foot or so smaller in length. You don't think I'll need the ozone and ona gel? I loved the smell of the ona gel when I smelled it in the store, very fresh smell.

I have no experience with ozone though and really bought it just to make the odor control a 3 prong attack: 1) Carbon filter, 2) ona gel, 3) Ozone

I don't think I"m going to put the ozone generator in the grow room because I've heard dangerous stuff about it making nasty smells or harming the plants if too much ozone is output. I think I will put it in the other part of the basement that way anyone who goes down into the basement will smell that and not my plants...and I can claim its being used to fight the damp musty basement smell down in the basement. Sound good? What do you think?

X
 

fred flintstoned

Well-Known Member
Damn that's a lot of power! You can upgrade well beyond the size limits of the room. Still think about multiple plug boxes. Versatility is the key, you never know what you'll do in the future. Also, I can't think of anything that uses 16 amps(the limit for a 20amp circuit) by itself.
If you find the fans to be too small, you can always put a 6in on both ends of one set of lights and get a 8in for the other. Best prices on vortex-plantlightinghydroponics.com
No sense getting a smaller filter now. The extra capacity will come in handy down the road. Ozone for the rest of the basement will work. You will need the cover story for your friends, but, remember that cops are trained to recognize any masking agents, particularly Ona.
When using a dedicated ac, you're wasting dollars by exhausting the room. My filters sit in a corner with a fan on top. That's it. They recycle the air constantly(24hrs.) and we never get a wiff anywhere in the house. Unless the room is airtight, you wont need co2 injection. The fan draws a lot of air through the cracks and under doors. Co2 supplementation would be ideal! Dedicated ac also allows a pretty large burner,too. Btw, those ecoplus fans are pretty loud, but then, so are vortex. You may need a duct muffler. A sound box for the fans at the least.
Grow massive colas! Tell NO-ONE!!
Fred
 

xivex

Active Member
Damn that's a lot of power! You can upgrade well beyond the size limits of the room. Still think about multiple plug boxes. Versatility is the key, you never know what you'll do in the future. Also, I can't think of anything that uses 16 amps(the limit for a 20amp circuit) by itself.
If you find the fans to be too small, you can always put a 6in on both ends of one set of lights and get a 8in for the other. Best prices on vortex-plantlightinghydroponics.com
No sense getting a smaller filter now. The extra capacity will come in handy down the road. Ozone for the rest of the basement will work. You will need the cover story for your friends, but, remember that cops are trained to recognize any masking agents, particularly Ona.
When using a dedicated ac, you're wasting dollars by exhausting the room. My filters sit in a corner with a fan on top. That's it. They recycle the air constantly(24hrs.) and we never get a wiff anywhere in the house. Unless the room is airtight, you wont need co2 injection. The fan draws a lot of air through the cracks and under doors. Co2 supplementation would be ideal! Dedicated ac also allows a pretty large burner,too. Btw, those ecoplus fans are pretty loud, but then, so are vortex. You may need a duct muffler. A sound box for the fans at the least.
Grow massive colas! Tell NO-ONE!!
Fred
Fred,

I plan on growing some massively dank shite my friend! :) Ordered from Attitude's quad thunder, got 5 super lemon haze from Green House (previous last 2 years Cannibis Cup winner) and 5 Barney's Farm Utopia Haze plus the other 8 freebie seeds...that was my first order, so it was kinda a litmus test if you will...next time probably going to order more like 40 seeds.

Thanks,

X
 
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