Invisible Empire..........

i will say this much. your rights have already been taken away when we the people allowed for the patriot act to pass. In other words we gave up our freedom (and everything that comes with freedom) for our safety. heres a quote from benjamin franklin "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
And as far as your statement about being free. let me ask you whats is freedom to you? freedom to me is when you are able to say NO. we never had freedom and we will never be free.
"I leave all the worrying to the people not contempt with the way things are done. Hell maybe one day we'll get to a point where there is total transparency of the government, that would be an interesting day"

leave the worrying to others, its not even about being content or not is about seeing the truth of what the evil people want to do with you as a human being. the things that they have planned for you (nothing good) and change your moral values (if any) etc etc etc . and keep on dreaming there will never be a transparent government. or should i say just turn on the tube and keep on being manipulated like a sheep..... oh and btw i meant no disrespect what so ever. just expressing myself just like you did no offence

Xrtnfx said:

lying, deceiving, greed.. All part of human nature. I can say that I've been guilty of a few myself, never to intentionally hurt anyone though. I have no doubt that governments lie to their people, take Germany during Hitler’s reign for example using people of other races as scapegoats to further their political agenda. Every government has secret classified documents for a reason. I get it, I think most people do, Its business. As long as I have my rights and I am free to pursue anything I desire then I will be happy living with it. I leave all the worrying to the people not contempt with the way things are done. Hell maybe one day we'll get to a point where there is total transparency of the government, that would be an interesting day

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Yeah man, sorry, but you aren't as free as you think.

You don't have a lot of choice in the way you will live your life as it is and what is being planned and already in effect will leave us with even less freedom.

I remember reading in the news about the Bird Flu (yeah that again! hehe) and they were "talking" about using marshal law to force every single citizen of America to take that vaccine! Now if they are even "playing" with an idea like that, it's already too much for me. Imagine that shit man! What would you do then? What would you have to say about your freedom then??

It is a fairly known fact that these elite have played around with far more serious ideas, have you heard of the de-population plans that have been floating around? (ofcourse noone will have factual information on something as heinous as that, but where there's smoke, there's fire)
Do you believe in the greenhouse effect? And if so, have you researched into it, and compared it with the weather and climate history of our world? If so you will know that this is also a massive scam. (I wont get into that now though, unless someone want's to talk about it)

You say that lying, deceit, greed are all part of human nature, but isn't that why we have governing bodies and police, structured political power's and so on and so forth? Because it is true, one man alone could never rule a country because of this very reason. But all this structure and beauracracy was put in place for all to be fair.

And one final thing, whether or not you think you are being "controlled" doesn't matter, if you watch t.v or listen to the radio or read the news, you are instantly taking in what the government want's you to take in, it is a difficult thing to comprehend, I myself have a hard time realising it, I still watch t.v and read the news, but i guess I do it with a different perception.

The Devil's greatest acheivment was convincing people he doesn't exist. (I'm not religious, I just thought it was a fitting quote)

Anyway man, I don't want you to live differently because of what I'm saying, if you're happy then keep doing what you do. Just, I dunno, try to see through the black and the white. True freedom is a long way off yet. And the way things work will never change as long as the people believe what is being fed to them.


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I actually meant swine flu in that last post, instead of bird flu. Just realised now that i wrote bird oops