if we abolish the IRS, how will red states get their welfare?

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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many of the racist righties on this forum want to abolish the IRS.

but if we did that, how would their inbred redneck bible thumping kin in red states get their welfare payments?

red states are notorious welfare hogs, living on the dollars created by the blue states.



i imagine that without blue state dollars for some basic education, all the ellipsis abuse, caps lock, and excessive punctuation of red state racists would get even worse, and no one wants that.

so what do you suppose is the solution here?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
so what do you suppose is the solution here?
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I'd imagine most of them would say they want to get rid of the social safety net programs that we have. No reason to have an IRS when they disagree with the programs.

@ Rob Roy seems to believe any taxes levied on people are wrong under all circumstances since everybody didn't individually consent to them, I think that's a shallow opinion to hold when you consider if people only paid the taxes they wanted, they wouldn't pay any taxes at all and organizations like NASA, the CDC, the FDA, the EPA, as well as the funding to universities necessary to perform research wouldn't be available. This list includes hundreds of organizations affecting millions of people. What do all these people do in Rob's ideal world? How can you run a society effectively based on total voluntarism? There are dozens of variables that I can think of that could cause the downfall of that kind of society

A lot of the rest seem to go against the grain for the sake of going against the grain and their arguments usually fall short. At least in Rob's worldview I can understand where he's coming from, I just don't believe it's possible to have that kind of society.

But that is a good question; do conservatives just not really care about effectively hanging their party members out to dry when it comes to the elimination of these institutions?
 
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max420thc

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'd imagine most of them would say they want to get rid of the social safety net programs that we have. No reason to have an IRS when they disagree with the programs.

@ Rob Roy seems to believe any taxes levied on people are wrong under all circumstances since everybody didn't individually consent to them, I think that's a shallow opinion to hold when you consider if people only paid the taxes they wanted, they wouldn't pay any taxes at all and organizations like NASA, the CDC, the FDA, the EPA, as well as the funding to universities necessary to perform research wouldn't be available. This list includes hundreds of organizations affecting millions of people. What do all these people do in Rob's ideal world? How can you run a society effectively based on total voluntarism? There are dozens of variables that I can think of that could cause the downfall of that kind of society

A lot of the rest seem to go against the grain for the sake of going against the grain and their arguments usually fall short. At least in Rob's worldview I can understand where he's coming from, I just don't believe it's possible to have that kind of society.

But that is a good question; do conservatives just not really care about effectively hanging their party members out to dry when it comes to the elimination of these institutions?
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speaking of tax, why is it everyone around obamao doesn't pay tax's , Al the race baiter Sharpton , turbo tax Timothy Geitner ,Rahm emanual, but everyone else ,,all of us little people should pay our fair share?
 
ginjawarrior

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max420thc said:
speaking of tax, why is it everyone around obamao doesn't pay tax's , Al the race baiter Sharpton
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sharpton is a minister
, turbo tax Timothy Geitner
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In total, Geithner paid $34,023 in back taxes and $8,679 in interest.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6704526
,Rahm emanual,
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Emanuel owed $7,400 for his late property taxes on his Ravenswood home and paid $445.56 in penalties once WBBM began to look into the story.
http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/rahm-emanuel-another-tax-avoiding-obama-appointee/


weak sauce
 
Rob Roy

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Abolishing actions that require euphemized words to cover the fact that they are really acts of coercion and violence would make the world a much better place.

The results of a theft even if they produce "good things" cannot somehow erase the fact a theft occurred, even if the words used to describe the acts are sanitized by government word smiths.. If I steal money from an old lady, but then use part of the money to buy ice cream for my kids what just happened? Some people point to the happy face of the kids, but ignore the theft.

Mixing an improper means of acquisition into the equation is like trying to add more sugar to the punch bowl to make it taste better, but ignoring the fact there was a turd put into the punch at the onset.

Take care of the means and the end will take care of itself or something like that.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'd imagine most of them would say they want to get rid of the social safety net programs that we have. No reason to have an IRS when they disagree with the programs.

@ Rob Roy seems to believe any taxes levied on people are wrong under all circumstances since everybody didn't individually consent to them, I think that's a shallow opinion to hold when you consider if people only paid the taxes they wanted, they wouldn't pay any taxes at all and organizations like NASA, the CDC, the FDA, the EPA, as well as the funding to universities necessary to perform research wouldn't be available. This list includes hundreds of organizations affecting millions of people. What do all these people do in Rob's ideal world? How can you run a society effectively based on total voluntarism? There are dozens of variables that I can think of that could cause the downfall of that kind of society

A lot of the rest seem to go against the grain for the sake of going against the grain and their arguments usually fall short. At least in Rob's worldview I can understand where he's coming from, I just don't believe it's possible to have that kind of society.

But that is a good question; do conservatives just not really care about effectively hanging their party members out to dry when it comes to the elimination of these institutions?
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If you had a choice between a peaceful society and a society that wasn't which would you chose?

A simple answer will suffice. Thanks.
 
WeedFreak78

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I want to abolish the Fed and reform the IRS individuals shouldn't bear the brunt of the tax burden in this country..corporations should...seems like a better path..
 
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deadgro

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UncleBuck said:
many of the racist righties on this forum want to abolish the IRS.

but if we did that, how would their inbred redneck bible thumping kin in red states get their welfare payments?

red states are notorious welfare hogs, living on the dollars created by the blue states.



i imagine that without blue state dollars for some basic education, all the ellipsis abuse, caps lock, and excessive punctuation of red state racists would get even worse, and no one wants that.

so what do you suppose is the solution here?
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Before you pose new arguments, why dont you defend your other ones? You can't just ignore me, just like you couldn't ignore your father coming into your bedroom late at night.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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UncleBuck said:
many of the racist righties on this forum want to abolish the IRS.

but if we did that, how would their inbred redneck bible thumping kin in red states get their welfare payments?

red states are notorious welfare hogs, living on the dollars created by the blue states.



i imagine that without blue state dollars for some basic education, all the ellipsis abuse, caps lock, and excessive punctuation of red state racists would get even worse, and no one wants that.

so what do you suppose is the solution here?
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big·ot

\ˈbi-gət\noun
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Full Definition
:a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially :one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Including religious groups. Hmmmmm. Sounds familiar. That is why I said you are more of a bigot than me. Even if I have a belief in something I do not spew hate.

You take the view of a few extreme right and talk hate of the rest.
 
theexpress

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UncleBuck said:
many of the racist righties on this forum want to abolish the IRS.

but if we did that, how would their inbred redneck bible thumping kin in red states get their welfare payments?

red states are notorious welfare hogs, living on the dollars created by the blue states.



i imagine that without blue state dollars for some basic education, all the ellipsis abuse, caps lock, and excessive punctuation of red state racists would get even worse, and no one wants that.

so what do you suppose is the solution here?
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The same way it was done before welfare existed. The church's and religious establishments.. here's a better question besides Denver and Seattle who recently legalized weed name a democratic city doing well ... Detroit nope. Chicago nope. La nope.... Even new York city nope... The entire star of new jersey nope.... Cleveland nope.....
 
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schuylaar

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UncleBuck said:
many of the racist righties on this forum want to abolish the IRS.

but if we did that, how would their inbred redneck bible thumping kin in red states get their welfare payments?

red states are notorious welfare hogs, living on the dollars created by the blue states.



i imagine that without blue state dollars for some basic education, all the ellipsis abuse, caps lock, and excessive punctuation of red state racists would get even worse, and no one wants that.

so what do you suppose is the solution here?
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vote for bernie sanders (I) vermont if he runs.

his platform is the most fair to working class in order to re-equalize.

we need to stop bailing out large corps and let them just go naturally..

it is the working class that's paying for it all.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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whitebb2727 said:
That is why I said you are more of a bigot than me. Even if I have a belief in something I do not spew hate.
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you think being gay is "wrong".

you went on a rant about obama's blackness out of nowhere one day.

there's another one i'm missing.

and why is it bigoted to be concerned about the racist right shooting itself in the foot? you guys depend on a shitload of welfare. kentucky specifically is swimming in welfare. you guys would not make it if not for the IRS to redistribute dollars from liberal blue states for you guys.

jesus fucking christ dude, take it easy.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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UncleBuck said:
you think being gay is "wrong".

you went on a rant about obama's blackness out of nowhere one day.

there's another one i'm missing.

and why is it bigoted to be concerned about the racist right shooting itself in the foot? you guys depend on a shitload of welfare. kentucky specifically is swimming in welfare. you guys would not make it if not for the IRS to redistribute dollars from liberal blue states for you guys.

jesus fucking christ dude, take it easy.
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I understand that. First I apologize to any one gay if I offended you.

There are some extreme right wingers. Most of us in Ky are hard workers.

I know Ky has a lot of welfare. Look up " breaking mountain pride.".

The Obama thing was stupid. I didn't mean what it sounded like. I don't agree with Obama on everything. I also don't think he is the worst president ever.

I got to bust balls a little. Its just the internet. I think if we were to meet in person that you would find I'm a respectful person. I have never been mean to someone over my beliefs.

Inbred welfare drawing hicks is a stereotype.

I will man up and say I was wrong for the gay statement. It is something that has been said to me all my life. I guess I parroted it. I apologize.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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whitebb2727 said:
I understand that. First I apologize to any one gay if I offended you.

There are some extreme right wingers. Most of us in Ky are hard workers.

I know Ky has a lot of welfare. Look up " breaking mountain pride.".

The Obama thing was stupid. I didn't mean what it sounded like. I don't agree with Obama on everything. I also don't think he is the worst president ever.

I got to bust balls a little. Its just the internet. I think if we were to meet in person that you would find I'm a respectful person. I have never been mean to someone over my beliefs.

Inbred welfare drawing hicks is a stereotype.

I will man up and say I was wrong for the gay statement. It is something that has been said to me all my life. I guess I parroted it. I apologize.
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you seem like a respectful person, and i don't mean to hold some of your previous statements against you like i have with others.

if you are going to call me a bigot though, i would prefer that you accompany the accusation with some evidence in the form of posts and quotes.

that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
 
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