how many growers here use silicon?

Just reading about the benefits of silicon when its added to your nutes for your plants. Has anyone seen how much better or different it makes your plants if you have or don't have it? I'm thinking about getting some and trying it out. Any one have any suggestions on the best brand to use?
 

reefermaduk

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i use silicone as well have some nice plants with that stronger stems better looking full stop I use at a rate of 1ml per 1l or water and never mix with nutes I use it on it own
 

zchopper420

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I just started using it from what i have read you should mix it in your water first before anything else because it could cause a chemical reaction leading to nutrient lockout. It also raises ph. That's a couple little facts that are good to know
 

reefermaduk

Member
I just started using it from what i have read you should mix it in your water first before anything else because it could cause a chemical reaction leading to nutrient lockout. It also raises ph. That's a couple little facts that are good to know
that's true it says that on my bottle aswell don't mix with nutes or anything else
it also helps recover plants I also use bio heaven for stress and that works great aswell
 
so would it be best to put it in with just PH water on one of the res changes and then after the week swap it back out for nutrients again? Im growing my plants in a dwc btw.
 

reefermaduk

Member
never used in dwc but id be sure to mix up your tank with just silicone for a few days then clean it out and use fresh nutes but make shure the ph is same for both silicone and nutes just adjust ph up or down to meet your desired ph witch in dwc I think should be around 5.8
 

ricky1lung

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You can mix it in with the nutes and water. Most people run it every water and run it with their nutes when they feed. You have to mix in the silicon first
before adding any nutes though. Then just add nutes and ph as normal.
 

reefermaduk

Member
You can mix it in with the nutes and water. Most people run it every water and run it with their nutes when they feed. You have to mix in the silicon first
before adding any nutes though. Then just add nutes and ph as normal.
yes I have also heard of ppl using this way aswell never tried my self might do next seeds planted
 

SamsonsRiddle

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get pro-tekt from dyna-gro. it works awesome, makes the plant stronger (easier to bend if doing lst particularly) and more resistant to heat and wind damage. It also has a nice nutrient profile of 0-0-3. It will raise the PH of your water, and some even use it as their ph up. I wouldn't suggest that if it's going to take more than a couple drops to get to the ph you want.
 

ricky1lung

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yes I have also heard of ppl using this way aswell never tried my self might do next seeds planted
It's one jug of juice I won't go without anymore. When I started using it, it made a night and day difference to my plants.

I'm not the most experienced grower like so many others are, but I took the advice they gave me about the silicon and it really helped.
 

Dr. Who

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Silica
How Does A Plant Use Silicon?
Plants can only absorb Silicon in the form of monosilicic acids, these occur naturally as mineral Silicon(silicate sheets) are broken down and dissolved into water. In hydroponic applications, the most common form of Silicon additive is Potassium Silicate.

Once absorbed, Silicon is transported to where it is required by the plants transpiration system, it is deposited as either hydrated silicon dioxide (which effectively stores water molecules within the plant) between the plant cells or as silica (a gel like substance) within the walls of the individual plant cells.

Silicon effectively ‘builds’ the plant, acting as the cement between the bricks in the cell walls or between the actual cells themselves. It increases the structural integrity of the plant, making stems and branches thicker and stronger, and leaves greener and tougher.

The Benefits Of Silicon
The addition of Silicon to your feeding schedule can have an incredible effect on the growth, yield and overall health of your beloved ladies! But, how does it actually benefit your plants? Let’s break it down into bite-sized chunks….

Improved Plant Cell Development – once your plant uptakes Silicon, it is permanently deposited into the cell walls within 24 hours. These deposits form a silica-cellulose framework that are stronger and can be created quicker than they could have been without the inclusion of Silicon. Overall the plant can develop faster and grow quicker when it uptakes Silicon.

Put simply, plant cell walls are like brick walls in a house. When Silicon is taken in by the plant, it is used like cement in a brick wall. So the walls are built quicker and stronger.

Once the ‘cement’ is in place, it cannot be transported elsewhere within the plant, so it’s important to continue to add Silicon throughout the entire growth cycle. This will ensure that all new growth in the plant benefits from the effects.

Balancing Uptake Of Elements – the presence of Silicon in a nutrient solution can positively affect the uptake and absorption of several macro and micro nutrients. Silicon increases Zinc uptake; an essential element in growth and photosynthesis.

Silicon increases the availability of Nitrogen to the plant as its application (in soil) will reduce the loss of Nitrogen to Ammonia (a naturally occurring process in soil). Nitrogen is key in the vegetative stage of plant development as it promotes healthy new foliage growth.

Silicon also balances the uptake of Phosphorus, reducing the risk of toxic levels being taken in by the plant. This is a particularly helpful characteristic to all you home growers that like to use a concentrated bloom stimulator (or root stimulator, for that matter!) with a high PK value.
Protection Against Metal Toxicity – Silicon is known to compete for uptake against certain metal elements that are made available to the plant. These metals include; Aluminium, Manganese and Iron, all essential for plant growth, but an excess of availability of any of the three elements can be problematic for your plants.

If there is a Silicon deficiency around the roots, then plants can uptake these metal elements to toxic levels. This can lead to problems that are not only detrimental to yield, but are also quite difficult to diagnose. So, you could go all the way through your grow, without rectifying the problem and be seriously down on yield at harvest time.

By increasing the dose of Silicon available to your plants, there will be a corresponding increase in the deposits of silica in the cell walls and Silicon will compete against the metals available in the nutrient solution, preventing toxic build ups. Therefore adding Silicon to your feeding schedule protects against metal toxicity.

Maintain Cell Integrity and Plant Strength – this is one of the more obvious effects of adding Silicon. Your plants will be visibly stronger, with wider, thicker stems and branches. The wider the stem, the more uptake and transpiration of water and nutritional elements is possible. So, in theory the plants will grow bigger and at a faster pace.

Also, from a practical point of view, the thicker branches will be able to hold more weight without the need of additional supports. How many times have you got to the fourth or fifth week of flowering and realised that you haven’t put enough support in place to keep your buds stable? This will be less of a problem when using Silicon.

Protection Against Pests and Disease – this is a really fantastic benefit, particularly for home growers who prefer not to spray their plants with pesticides or fungicides. The protection that Silicon offers against fungal pathogens is two-fold:

1.The Silicon that has been deposited in the cell walls effectively toughens the outer ‘skin’ of the plant. This makes it far more difficult for pathogens to penetrate the plant in the first place.
2.If a plant is attacked by a pathogen, for example powdery mildew or pythium, the plant will transport and deposit any Silicon that it uptakes to the area of attack. This then stimulates the production of anti-fungal compounds that halt the infection process.

The toughened outer ‘skin’ reduces the risk of infestation from sucking insects.

Borrowed from CANNABIS.info

Doc
 

reefermaduk

Member
Silica
How Does A Plant Use Silicon?
Plants can only absorb Silicon in the form of monosilicic acids, these occur naturally as mineral Silicon(silicate sheets) are broken down and dissolved into water. In hydroponic applications, the most common form of Silicon additive is Potassium Silicate.

Once absorbed, Silicon is transported to where it is required by the plants transpiration system, it is deposited as either hydrated silicon dioxide (which effectively stores water molecules within the plant) between the plant cells or as silica (a gel like substance) within the walls of the individual plant cells.

Silicon effectively ‘builds’ the plant, acting as the cement between the bricks in the cell walls or between the actual cells themselves. It increases the structural integrity of the plant, making stems and branches thicker and stronger, and leaves greener and tougher.

The Benefits Of Silicon
The addition of Silicon to your feeding schedule can have an incredible effect on the growth, yield and overall health of your beloved ladies! But, how does it actually benefit your plants? Let’s break it down into bite-sized chunks….

Improved Plant Cell Development – once your plant uptakes Silicon, it is permanently deposited into the cell walls within 24 hours. These deposits form a silica-cellulose framework that are stronger and can be created quicker than they could have been without the inclusion of Silicon. Overall the plant can develop faster and grow quicker when it uptakes Silicon.

Put simply, plant cell walls are like brick walls in a house. When Silicon is taken in by the plant, it is used like cement in a brick wall. So the walls are built quicker and stronger.

Once the ‘cement’ is in place, it cannot be transported elsewhere within the plant, so it’s important to continue to add Silicon throughout the entire growth cycle. This will ensure that all new growth in the plant benefits from the effects.

Balancing Uptake Of Elements – the presence of Silicon in a nutrient solution can positively affect the uptake and absorption of several macro and micro nutrients. Silicon increases Zinc uptake; an essential element in growth and photosynthesis.

Silicon increases the availability of Nitrogen to the plant as its application (in soil) will reduce the loss of Nitrogen to Ammonia (a naturally occurring process in soil). Nitrogen is key in the vegetative stage of plant development as it promotes healthy new foliage growth.

Silicon also balances the uptake of Phosphorus, reducing the risk of toxic levels being taken in by the plant. This is a particularly helpful characteristic to all you home growers that like to use a concentrated bloom stimulator (or root stimulator, for that matter!) with a high PK value.
Protection Against Metal Toxicity – Silicon is known to compete for uptake against certain metal elements that are made available to the plant. These metals include; Aluminium, Manganese and Iron, all essential for plant growth, but an excess of availability of any of the three elements can be problematic for your plants.

If there is a Silicon deficiency around the roots, then plants can uptake these metal elements to toxic levels. This can lead to problems that are not only detrimental to yield, but are also quite difficult to diagnose. So, you could go all the way through your grow, without rectifying the problem and be seriously down on yield at harvest time.

By increasing the dose of Silicon available to your plants, there will be a corresponding increase in the deposits of silica in the cell walls and Silicon will compete against the metals available in the nutrient solution, preventing toxic build ups. Therefore adding Silicon to your feeding schedule protects against metal toxicity.

Maintain Cell Integrity and Plant Strength – this is one of the more obvious effects of adding Silicon. Your plants will be visibly stronger, with wider, thicker stems and branches. The wider the stem, the more uptake and transpiration of water and nutritional elements is possible. So, in theory the plants will grow bigger and at a faster pace.

Also, from a practical point of view, the thicker branches will be able to hold more weight without the need of additional supports. How many times have you got to the fourth or fifth week of flowering and realised that you haven’t put enough support in place to keep your buds stable? This will be less of a problem when using Silicon.

Protection Against Pests and Disease – this is a really fantastic benefit, particularly for home growers who prefer not to spray their plants with pesticides or fungicides. The protection that Silicon offers against fungal pathogens is two-fold:

1.The Silicon that has been deposited in the cell walls effectively toughens the outer ‘skin’ of the plant. This makes it far more difficult for pathogens to penetrate the plant in the first place.
2.If a plant is attacked by a pathogen, for example powdery mildew or pythium, the plant will transport and deposit any Silicon that it uptakes to the area of attack. This then stimulates the production of anti-fungal compounds that halt the infection process.

The toughened outer ‘skin’ reduces the risk of infestation from sucking insects.

Borrowed from CANNABIS.info

Doc
doc your the man dude you defo no what you doing one amazing grower
 
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