Hey Pro Lifers. Heres a big FU! You damn Freaks!

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Just a general comment.

It is a sad state that some of the pro-choice people seemingly celebrate the abortion of a baby.

While I support a woman's right to choose, I don't think a murdered fetus/baby is cause for celebration.
Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anyone in this thread throwing a party because an unborn child is dead, but rather are simply glad a state is no longer holding an otherwise dead mother hostage in order to keep a 16 week old fetus inside of its host for another 6 months..
Huge difference IMO..
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anyone in this thread throwing a party because an unborn child is dead, but rather are simply glad a state is no longer holding an otherwise dead mother hostage in order to keep a 16 week old fetus inside of its host for another 6 months..
Huge difference IMO..
If another life comes from this mother's tragedy, why is that a hostage? You already admit she's dead, so why does she care. In 19 years had the baby lived, it would've told you that you were wrong.
 

kpmarine

Well-Known Member
If another life comes from this mother's tragedy, why is that a hostage? You already admit she's dead, so why does she care. In 19 years had the baby lived, it would've told you that you were wrong.
She would be a hostage by the very definition of the word. She clearly cared, given she went to the trouble of making her wishes known in advance. The father also requested life support be ended. I'm sure a newly single father would have trouble supporting the child he currently has; footing the medical bills for another 5 months of life support; paying for the birth; paying to bury his wife; and maintaining his current standard of living. That all assumes the child comes out alive and without any defects. Or he could end it now and maintain the possibility of providing his currently born son a good life with financial security. That may not be an easy choice, but it's pretty obvious which choice allows your already born child a better shot at a good life.
 

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
The mother's body was not going to be able to support a baby for 6 more months. Report said her body was not holding up after a couple weeks.

Best case scenario, baby stayed in till week 28 and then taken out.

However, the doctor had said the baby was not goig to survive.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
She would be a hostage by the very definition of the word. She clearly cared, given she went to the trouble of making her wishes known in advance. The father also requested life support be ended. I'm sure a newly single father would have trouble supporting the child he currently has; footing the medical bills for another 5 months of life support; paying for the birth; paying to bury his wife; and maintaining his current standard of living. That all assumes the child comes out alive and without any defects. Or he could end it now and maintain the possibility of providing his currently born son a good life with financial security. That may not be an easy choice, but it's pretty obvious which choice allows your already born child a better shot at a good life.
i agree with this completely. and why did i call her a hostage? because for the simple fact she made it very clear that if she ever needed to be kept on life support, she wanted them to pull the plug and let her die her peaceful death, as did the father.. if someone is holding you against your will, i'd say that's being held hostage, no matter what the reason was..
and just like this quote, now this man is a single father, and would have to raise a kid all on his own, who knows what his financial situation looks like, and can you even begin to think of what a 6 month stay in intensive care hospital bill would look like? my mom was in for 2 days and had a hip replacement, $75k..
people want to make laws about her having to stay on life support to keep the fetus alive, and at the same time these are the same people who bitch about welfare, and programs like w.i.c and the aca, which would obviously benefit a man in this situation and his baby once it were born..
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
obviously you guys don't listen to the whole story..the outrage is the baby has many, many defects including encephalitis and would have died anyway = no viability.

texas wanted to saddle the husband with a deformed child and had it believed that it could..it would have..they only saving grace was that is was clear in the end the baby would not live.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

Well-Known Member
Texas didn't. The hospital did. In this case, the hospital misapplied the law. The baby wasn't viable, she was really gone, but the hospital made the decision.

I think they need to change it to be more clear about when not to use it. There are circumstances where the baby is viable, healthy and can be born. The family wants the baby etc. in this case it caused problems.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
The mother and father are paramedics.
I believe they knew what they wanted when they made their advance directives.
 

kpmarine

Well-Known Member
Texas didn't. The hospital did. In this case, the hospital misapplied the law. The baby wasn't viable, she was really gone, but the hospital made the decision.

I think they need to change it to be more clear about when not to use it. There are circumstances where the baby is viable, healthy and can be born. The family wants the baby etc. in this case it caused problems.
The hospital applied the law exactly as it was worded. I don't see how they misapplied it, but I do agree that it needs some serious revision.
 

reggaerican

Well-Known Member
I think all this pro this anti that is all bull shit pansies running there mouth.
Personally I wish they would all shit the hell up and live there own lives how they want and leave others to do the same. This country has turned to absolute shit and the sooner it destroys itself the sooner the rest of the world will stand a chance..
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Texas didn't. The hospital did. In this case, the hospital misapplied the law. The baby wasn't viable, she was really gone, but the hospital made the decision.

I think they need to change it to be more clear about when not to use it. There are circumstances where the baby is viable, healthy and can be born. The family wants the baby etc. in this case it caused problems.
fail..where do the employees of the hospital live?


WENDY DAVIS FOR GOVERNOR 2014
 

Wilksey

Well-Known Member
I have no issues with aborting pregnancies. Hell, IMO, it should be g'damn MANDATORY for bitches that can't afford to raise their demon spawn on their own, and the sperm donor should pay for it.

However, I also believe certain criminal behaviors should be met with a g'damn noose placed around ones neck until dead.


I guess that makes me pro-death?
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
congratulations texas!:clap:..you done ciphered and totally outwitted yourselves:lol:
How about all us men drink some hemlock laced grape FlavorAid. Then the rest of the women can do that X chromosome female to female cloning techique for genetic variation.
 

beenthere

New Member
fail..where do the employees of the hospital live?


WENDY DAVIS FOR GOVERNOR 2014
The Wendy Davis that got caught lying about her life story, that Wendy Davis?
The Wendy Davis who waited for her husband to pay off her law school loan, then filed for divorce the very next day?
You're correct, Wendy Davis makes a fine Democrat politician, she'll fit right in.

 
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