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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Buddha2525 said:
Randomness isn't how life began, that's impossible. You being an Episcopalian and all should know that.
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Prove it, or at least present evidence. Prove that amino acids did not mingle by chance to form proteins. Prove that natural selection did not go on for hundreds of millions of years to result in our civilization. Evidence exists to show that it is possible and therefore, the theory remains.

Your nonsense isn't theory, it's religion (in your case, fake religion).
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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abandonconflict said:
Prove it, or at least present evidence. Prove that amino acids did not mingle by chance to form proteins. Prove that natural selection did not go on for hundreds of millions of years to result in our civilization. Evidence exists to show that it is possible and therefore, the theory remains.

Your nonsense isn't theory, it's religion (in your case, fake religion).
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Within seconds super computers can mathematically model the universe from the big bang to now. No matter how many attempts at randomly trying, life never begins. Even if given the base pairs as a given, life never starts. When starting with the most basic life, random mutation causes deliterious effects and all life dies.

Life needs life to beget another life. There's not one instance of from chaos to order. That violates the law of entropy. If such a thing were possible time could go backwards.

But such isn't possible.

So some sort of life principle exists, and always existed. Which is what Buddhism says: there's only dependent origination, spontaneous origination never happens.

That's why all Abrahamic religions are false. They violate the principle of dependent origination.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Buddha2525 said:
Within seconds super computers can mathematically model the universe from the big bang to now.
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Computers do what they're programmed to do. Show me a peer reviewed study that includes a super computer contradicting the theory of evolution and natural selection and then I will consider it. Until then, it's a computer model programmed by a fake buddhist like you.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Buddha2525 said:
Within seconds super computers can mathematically model the universe from the big bang to now. No matter how many attempts at randomly trying, life never begins. Even if given the base pairs as a given, life never starts. When starting with the most basic life, random mutation causes deliterious effects and all life dies.

Life needs life to beget another life. There's not one instance of from chaos to order. That violates the law of entropy. If such a thing were possible time could go backwards.

But such isn't possible.

So some sort of life principle exists, and always existed. Which is what Buddhism says: there's only dependent origination, spontaneous origination never happens.

That's why all Abrahamic religions are false. They violate the principle of dependent origination.
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Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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abandonconflict said:
Computers do what they're programmed to do. Show me a peer reviewed study that includes a super computer contradicting the theory of evolution and natural selection and then I will consider it. Until then, it's a computer model programmed by a fake buddhist like you.
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How does chaos lead to order? Science claims it but has ZERO proof of it. If you can come up with an explaination you'd win the Nobel Prize in physics and become more famous than Einstein. Git r done!

You can't claim such without proof that's what Christians do. "We don't know how natural selection came about, but science bitches!"

Dependent origination is what Einstein explained with cause and effect. Both are needed and neither can happen independently. Which has been also known in vedic texts too and explained by Nagarjuna over 1,800 years ago.

Science has already rejected the big bang as impossible because a singularity is impossible which is why they rephrased it as the big bounce using quantum loop gravity theory.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Buddha2525 said:
How does chaos lead to order? Science claims it but has ZERO proof of it. If you can come up with an explaination you'd win the Nobel Prize in physics and become more famous than Einstein. Git r done!

You can't claim such without proof that's what Christians do. "We don't know how natural selection came about, but science bitches!"

Dependent origination is what Einstein explained with cause and effect. Both are needed and neither can happen independently. Which has been also known in vedic texts too and explained by Nagarjuna over 1,800 years ago.

Science has already rejected the big bang as impossible because a singularity is impossible which is why they rephrased it as the big bounce using quantum loop gravity theory.
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I don't see any citation to some legit research refuting the theory of evolution in this emotional appeal.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Buddha2525 said:
How does chaos lead to order? Science claims it but has ZERO proof of it. If you can come up with an explaination you'd win the Nobel Prize in physics and become more famous than Einstein. Git r done!

You can't claim such without proof that's what Christians do. "We don't know how natural selection came about, but science bitches!"

Dependent origination is what Einstein explained with cause and effect. Both are needed and neither can happen independently. Which has been also known in vedic texts too and explained by Nagarjuna over 1,800 years ago.

Science has already rejected the big bang as impossible because a singularity is impossible which is why they rephrased it as the big bounce using quantum loop gravity theory.
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Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Fogdog said:
Yes, yes, I know you are very proud today about getting your anti-abortion judge appointed. Enjoy your day. You and your kind only sold the country to Exxon so that you could make sure that women can't make their own medical decisions.

Will it be OK if I check in with you in November to see how things are going?
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> day

My friend, we'll be enjoying this nomination for decades to come. Many Novembers will come and go under his his judgement regardless of what happens this year.
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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abandonconflict said:
I don't see any citation to some legit research refuting the theory of evolution in this emotional appeal.
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I'm not denying evolution. I'm not a Christian creationist. What I'm denying is abiogenesis, the original evolution of life or living organisms from inorganic or inanimate substances. That's impossible and the first scientist to prove that assumption wrong would be more famous than Einstein.
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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abandonconflict said:
Read this statement again slowly. You added some bs to it, like the word 'assumption' since there is actually evidence, but it still contains its own refutation.
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I never once mentioned or denied evolution, that's your fantasy I did. I only claim once the "programs" in DNA were "made" claiming those programs arose of their own randomly(called abiogenesis), which scientism claims, is ludicrous.
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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abandonconflict said:
I get it, you think life was created by intelligent design.

You still haven't cited any legit science refuting any part of the theory of natural selection. You're going to need more to convince me that evolution is not truth.
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Biogenesis is perfectly compatible with evolution. Evolution doesn't prove abiogenesis. That natural selection exists doesn't disprove some sort of creative force is behind that phenomena.

You haven't cited any legit science that proves abiogenesis, which must be proven before you can claim a creative force doesn't exist. Which also doesn't prove that force is god.

I think we all have the potential to be gods and were once gods and just forgot.
 
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