andyman
Well-Known Member
very nice
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
- Thread starter StinkBud
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Ive been following this thread for about 3 months now. First I have to show love to Stink for the great setup and say thanks. I have a quick question. Im running 2 1000w in a 8x8x9.5 growroom made of 1/2" rigged insulation, completely sealed. I have a cap co2 controller for my co2 and fans. Now my problem is that this unit does not shut off. I have it set at 86f and 60%, my lights are vented out the room. I have an AC setup and temp are in the 80s and humidity is 58-60% but this thing still will not shut down to run Co2. Any help would be appreciated.doktorgreenthumb420
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just wanted to post my immediate results with this system
these pics are 19 days apart
im usin gh nutes 3 part ...
o and ther is a wide variety of strains in that pic ...u can tell
o and agin ty stink for postin about this cool sys
19 days people look at the growth and i wasnt even really tryin to pay attention to my rez nute levels ...i set it once and forgot bout it heeh
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these pics are 19 days apart
im usin gh nutes 3 part ...
o and ther is a wide variety of strains in that pic ...u can tell
o and agin ty stink for postin about this cool sys
19 days people look at the growth and i wasnt even really tryin to pay attention to my rez nute levels ...i set it once and forgot bout it heeh
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dagobaker
Well-Known Member
when u combine co2 with aero u get amazing results
i keep putting mine in too big and having to rig my lights so i dont burn everything
i need to keep the big stretchers under 16 inches and the non stretchers under 20.......
i seem to have plants over 4 feet and they are out of control
i keep putting mine in too big and having to rig my lights so i dont burn everything
i need to keep the big stretchers under 16 inches and the non stretchers under 20.......
i seem to have plants over 4 feet and they are out of control
doktorgreenthumb420
Well-Known Member
i would like to get into co2 after i upgrade my whole system to this aero/nft .....how would this work when if i have an ac in room ? i dont want it to constantly pull all my precious co2 out
i know you can run higher temps like 85 or so .....that would prlly help out and runnin at night .....hmm i think it would be minimal if i had right type of ac that has maybe a energy saver mode ..........
any thoughts on this ...i want to know bout co2 ....and how much does it cost in actual co2 tanks per month
i love the new system tho ......i am testimony of a grower that has basically tryed everythin indoors .....and when my aeroponic rainforest started to outperform everythin else i looked into aero more and found this thread
so about 5000 dollars and 3 years later i get to have a nice jumpstart from prof stink ....and now im knowin a way easier method of production
i know you can run higher temps like 85 or so .....that would prlly help out and runnin at night .....hmm i think it would be minimal if i had right type of ac that has maybe a energy saver mode ..........
any thoughts on this ...i want to know bout co2 ....and how much does it cost in actual co2 tanks per month
i love the new system tho ......i am testimony of a grower that has basically tryed everythin indoors .....and when my aeroponic rainforest started to outperform everythin else i looked into aero more and found this thread
so about 5000 dollars and 3 years later i get to have a nice jumpstart from prof stink ....and now im knowin a way easier method of production
BIGTIMEROOFERR
Well-Known Member
hey stinkbuddies
i cant believe how much the thread has grown in the 2or3 weeks that i havent been here
i have a question about the flush
do i wait till the trichomes are amber
or start now
mine are all cloudy
thanks for any help
i cant believe how much the thread has grown in the 2or3 weeks that i havent been here
i have a question about the flush
do i wait till the trichomes are amber
or start now
mine are all cloudy
thanks for any help
grandpabear3
New Member
any stinkbuddies growing white widow?
Aeroweed
Well-Known Member
I googled ozone & plants... I was curious because I have a O generator. After reading this I won't be using iti almost got an ozone gen but i have a friend who uses one, i got my carbon filter going and he sold his ozone gen to get a carbon filter. it made his grow room smell like a meth lab, plus if that thing ever goes crazy (like everything built in china) it can be pretty dangerous, up with filters down with generators.
Ozone Generators May Damage Plant Root in Hydroponics Applications
According to an article published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, ozone, a major smog constituent, inhibits the ability of plants to open the microscopic pores on their foliage and breath. HydroponicSearch.com was interested in learning more about the effects of ozone on the plants root-zone.
We purchased a simple bubbler (waterworks) system that held up to nine plants. We wanted a system that held multiple plants in order to accurately interpret the results. The system was made from a 10-gallon rubber-maid tub, using two air-stones and one fairly powerful, external pump to oxygenate the nutrient solution.
We had 4 mature plum tomato plants from which we clipped nine cuttings to use in our experiment. We took the clones from one of the healthiest of the four mature tomato plants. We knew the genetics were good and were excited to see the results.
The clones rooted nicely and were placed in 1" rockwool cubes and placed in small 3" net-pots with clay pellets for structural support. The clones were allowed to grow normally for a month without the addition of ozone.
We used organic fertilizer (3-3-3) with organic biological stimulants to make the nutrients available to the plants.
30 days after we transplanted the rooted clones in the hydroponics system, we monitored the roots and noticed everything appeared healthy and in good condition. Plant growth was vigorous and the foliage was green and healthy with no signs of stress or disease.
On day 31 we placed an ozone generator in the grow room. To ensure the ozone would penetrate the nutrient solution, we placed the external pump used to aerate the solution over the exhaust (mouth) of the ozone generator. This allowed the pump to feed ozone directly into the solution by diffusing it through the air-stones.
About 7 days later (Day 3 the leaves were getting crisp - similar to the effects of nitrogen burn. They were fairly stiff and turned a bronze-like color. On day 60 the roots had a slimy-brown appearance and stopped developing from the time we introduced the ozone 30 days prior.
It appears that the ozone were killing the roots of the plants. Additionally, plant growth and fruit development ceased completely. On day 30 the plants were approximately 1' (ft) in height. On day 60 they are about 1' 3". in height with only 3" (inches) in new growth.
15 days later (Day 75), most of the plants appeared dehydrated with wilted foliage and looked similar to crops that endure extreme heat stress. Some leaves remained normal however, and it was mainly the larger fan leaves. New growth was not observed.
The Air-line connected to the pump and the air-stone started to build a black-film that lined the inside of the air-line on the end connect to the pump.
We removed the ozone generator on day 75 to see if the plants would recover, however, by day 90 they were all beyond the point of recovery. There were no new root or foliage development and the plant continued to wilt until they were completely dried out.
Conclusion:
We hypothesize that the ozone directly affected the roots of the plants. However, we are uncertain how the roots are affected or damaged by the ozone. It appears the ozone kill the existing root and prevent new shoots from developing. We also believe that ozone may have killed and/or drastically reduced the organic matter available in the nutrient solution. While this test was small and not quite scientific, it does suggest that ozone, added directly to the root-zone is not beneficial to the overall health of plants. We believe that ozone may damage the root of plants, kill organic matter in nutrient and/or cease plant growth and fruit development.
We hope to continue various tests using ozone to get a better understanding of how ozone affects plants' root, growth and fruit development.
This article courtesy of www.hydroponicsearch.com
Aeroweed
Well-Known Member
Hey Chef! Great idea
I was gonna cut my rez tops back again tomorrow... Your mod looks like it would work better...
Now if we could just make a ramp to lessen the unexplainable rushing water zen moments every 5 minuteskiss-ass
grandpabear3
New Member
just wondering how it does in nft. i know stink's system is aero/nft
but i'm just throwin em' in a regular ol' nft set up. 2 runs with 12 per run and a 1000w hps over em' with a light mover. 30 gallon tub aerated with the pump runnin 24/7. so my questions are
how long in flower? 8 0r 9 weeks
and height of the plants...did you top them?
and yield per plant.
mine are in trays & get about 40'' tall and i'm doing good to get an ounce off them. i lollipop them but don't top them.
thanks
I am not sure about the specifics of the CAP controller you are using, but if you have the humidity set at 60%, and room humidity is 58 - 60%, that will trigger the fan or whatever you have attached to the humidity receptacle. There is usually a deadband of 2 or more, so unless you get the room down to 57% or lower, the fan will not turn off. I am not sure if your controller has "link" and "split" functions, but be sure these are set as desired. "Link" will not allow the CO2 to turn on if the fan is running. "Split" will allow the fan and the CO2 to run at the same time. If you are using a CO2 generator, this may be acceptable if the fan has low CFM's or is slowed with a speed controller. If your CAP controller only operates in "link" mode only, you will need to raise your humid/temp setpoint, or lower the humidity in the room. Consider a dehumidifier... most sealed rooms need both AC and dehumid to keep RH where you want it (55% or less - especially with dense buds prone to mold).
Depending upon the high you are looking for, I think it is time to flush (use Stinks latest method - flush with Clearex for a day or two, then use Sweet till the end). On my last batches, I used Clearex and then plain water for one unit, and the Clearex/Sweet route for the other... The Sweet batch is..., well, sweet!
Harvesting a little earlier will generally produce more of a mind high, while harvesting later in the window delivers more of a body high. I think Stink goes early on his Sativas and later for is Indicas. I lean to the early side for all strains - I just like my medicine that way. I just read something by Soma - and he was saying "when you think it's done, go another week". It will all work, there is probably a sweet spot you will find after a few harvests with the same strain.
Wow - you are thinking outside the box! This is a timer I want to see... sounds like an expert DIY project for sure!
DIRTHAWKER
Well-Known Member
Im getting ready to do a sfv og kush grow. Ive got a bunch that have been vegging for about 4 weeks and they are ready to go into the flower room. The few that i have flowered in the past seemed to be on the smaller side (heighth wise). The buds were really dense and clustered from top to bottom but no real big colas. Does anyone know what sort of pruning would help on this strain?
itex25
Active Member
Ozone dissapates quickly in the atmosphere , this study is interesting however adding ozone directly to the root zone would kill any beneficial bacteria or organisims just like any strong oxidizer (like bleach 5.25% sodium hypochlorite ) but ozone dissapates rapidly and normally has no residual like bleach or chlorine which is why ozone is not used for potable water disinfection in the usa , its very doubtful that an ozone generator used to clean the air would have any real affect in a open atmosphere like a bloom room where a very small amount of o3 is produced and it quickly begins to oxidize the stinky compounds , remember the human nose is very sensitive to these compounds (h2so4 , hydrogen sulfide etc.) even more sensitive than test papers or gas spectrometer equipment detecting at normal ranges so complete removal of stinky compounds is essential , ozone generators would be better utilized as a scrubbing secondary method after a carbon filter exhaust for example.I googled ozone & plants... I was curious because I have a O generator. After reading this I won't be using it
Ozone Generators May Damage Plant Root in Hydroponics Applications
According to an article published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, ozone, a major smog constituent, inhibits the ability of plants to open the microscopic pores on their foliage and breath. HydroponicSearch.com was interested in learning more about the effects of ozone on the plants root-zone.
We purchased a simple bubbler (waterworks) system that held up to nine plants. We wanted a system that held multiple plants in order to accurately interpret the results. The system was made from a 10-gallon rubber-maid tub, using two air-stones and one fairly powerful, external pump to oxygenate the nutrient solution.
We had 4 mature plum tomato plants from which we clipped nine cuttings to use in our experiment. We took the clones from one of the healthiest of the four mature tomato plants. We knew the genetics were good and were excited to see the results.
The clones rooted nicely and were placed in 1" rockwool cubes and placed in small 3" net-pots with clay pellets for structural support. The clones were allowed to grow normally for a month without the addition of ozone.
We used organic fertilizer (3-3-3) with organic biological stimulants to make the nutrients available to the plants.
30 days after we transplanted the rooted clones in the hydroponics system, we monitored the roots and noticed everything appeared healthy and in good condition. Plant growth was vigorous and the foliage was green and healthy with no signs of stress or disease.
On day 31 we placed an ozone generator in the grow room. To ensure the ozone would penetrate the nutrient solution, we placed the external pump used to aerate the solution over the exhaust (mouth) of the ozone generator. This allowed the pump to feed ozone directly into the solution by diffusing it through the air-stones.
About 7 days later (Day 3 the leaves were getting crisp - similar to the effects of nitrogen burn. They were fairly stiff and turned a bronze-like color. On day 60 the roots had a slimy-brown appearance and stopped developing from the time we introduced the ozone 30 days prior.
It appears that the ozone were killing the roots of the plants. Additionally, plant growth and fruit development ceased completely. On day 30 the plants were approximately 1' (ft) in height. On day 60 they are about 1' 3". in height with only 3" (inches) in new growth.
15 days later (Day 75), most of the plants appeared dehydrated with wilted foliage and looked similar to crops that endure extreme heat stress. Some leaves remained normal however, and it was mainly the larger fan leaves. New growth was not observed.
The Air-line connected to the pump and the air-stone started to build a black-film that lined the inside of the air-line on the end connect to the pump.
We removed the ozone generator on day 75 to see if the plants would recover, however, by day 90 they were all beyond the point of recovery. There were no new root or foliage development and the plant continued to wilt until they were completely dried out.
Conclusion:
We hypothesize that the ozone directly affected the roots of the plants. However, we are uncertain how the roots are affected or damaged by the ozone. It appears the ozone kill the existing root and prevent new shoots from developing. We also believe that ozone may have killed and/or drastically reduced the organic matter available in the nutrient solution. While this test was small and not quite scientific, it does suggest that ozone, added directly to the root-zone is not beneficial to the overall health of plants. We believe that ozone may damage the root of plants, kill organic matter in nutrient and/or cease plant growth and fruit development.
We hope to continue various tests using ozone to get a better understanding of how ozone affects plants' root, growth and fruit development.
This article courtesy of www.hydroponicsearch.com
dagobaker
Well-Known Member
Hydroplex
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/hydroplex-05-10-reproductive-liquid-supplement-p-2398.html
anyone ever thought of adding this to the flowering mix?
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/hydroplex-05-10-reproductive-liquid-supplement-p-2398.html
anyone ever thought of adding this to the flowering mix?
