Got spider mites
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I hope the OP is doing better.
TacoMac
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Well, in between all your insults, profanity and trolling, it's difficult to get anything of value from anything you post.
That said, neem oil is actually toxic to some humans. There are many cases of neem oil poisoning on record in India where it's used as an anti-fungal treatment. You can read more here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3841499/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3841499/
Then there's the fact that Dr. Earth products can be harmful if inhaled. Again, just because something is organic does not mean it can't hurt you.
This is from the MSDS of the Dr. Earth Yard and Garden Insect Spray:
That's a lot of precautions for something as harmless as you say it is.
Olive Drab Green
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It's required by law for all pesticides, generally. Don't read too much into it. And if you would actually read what you rebutted with, you would see it's not serious. It's mostly for allergy's sake.
Olive Drab Green
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"SECTION VIII – SPECIAL PROTECTION INFORMATION
Respiratory Protection (Specify type): N/A Mechanical (General): N/A
Ventilation: Use with adequate ventilation. Local Exhaust: N/A
Protection Gloves: N/A Eye Protection: N/A
Other Protective Equipment: Change cloths daily; bathe daily, wash cloths separately before reuse."
Yeah, that sure makes it sound harmful, @TacoMac.
"N/A" on everything except wash your hands and clothes daily and don't inhale concentrations of it. Pretty fucking scary.
Respiratory Protection (Specify type): N/A Mechanical (General): N/A
Ventilation: Use with adequate ventilation. Local Exhaust: N/A
Protection Gloves: N/A Eye Protection: N/A
Other Protective Equipment: Change cloths daily; bathe daily, wash cloths separately before reuse."
Yeah, that sure makes it sound harmful, @TacoMac.
"N/A" on everything except wash your hands and clothes daily and don't inhale concentrations of it. Pretty fucking scary.
TacoMac
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You obviously are very young and have no idea what the section you just quoted means.
Those are the special protection hazmat specifications of the MSDS. If it's not classified as a hazardous material, everything in it is pretty much always NA.
Just because you don't have to wear a respirator to use the product doesn't mean it's not very harmful to you if you ingest it. Just because you don't have to handle it with chemically resistant gloves doesn't mean you don't have to wash your hands after you use it.
It's clear to me now though that you're just a very angry young man that has to prove he's right no matter how ridiculous his arguments become. I hope in your future you find some sort of peace.
Those are the special protection hazmat specifications of the MSDS. If it's not classified as a hazardous material, everything in it is pretty much always NA.
Just because you don't have to wear a respirator to use the product doesn't mean it's not very harmful to you if you ingest it. Just because you don't have to handle it with chemically resistant gloves doesn't mean you don't have to wash your hands after you use it.
It's clear to me now though that you're just a very angry young man that has to prove he's right no matter how ridiculous his arguments become. I hope in your future you find some sort of peace.
Uberknot
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It goes both ways pal.....sorry, but you sound the same to me.
Just because you are paranoid doesnt mean everyone has to be.
And now I am done with listening to it....have fun.
TacoMac
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I never said anybody had to be. You're just like him: very angry and hateful and for some strange reason feel the need to attack anybody that doesn't see everything your way.
Go back and re-read my posts. All I ever said was there were two sides to it, and that each person should pick their own. You two have done nothing but assault everybody that even remotely suggest that there is any way to do anything a way that isn't yours.
I have the same hope for you that I do for him...if you're not in fact the same person, which is highly likely: I hope you find peace somewhere. Contrary to what you think, not everybody on earth sees things only your way.
claypipe69
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If still in veg stage a systemic insecticide is the best, there are a products that have a 10 day life once applied the one i am talking about is suitable for fruit & veg only kills things that bite the plant wont hurt beneficial insects I dont like to use product brand names check out the local nursery they will know.the best one for your region.
Olive Drab Green
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Neem is one of those systemics you are talking about. Spraying it in really late flower, though, may cause your flowers to smell like old Chinese food if you OVERapply it, though.
Olive Drab Green
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I'm not angry or hateful. I'm trying to get you to stop arguing for the sake of your own ego. What I'm stating isn't incorrect, and you keep trying to argue points that I've affirmed through evidence and explanation. It's not my fault you mistake being given information for an attack. Thick skin, man.
Also, you think we're the same person? You're just sounding ridiculous now.
claypipe69
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New to this site The name of the product Is Confidor the withholding period before eating smoking is four weeks This product leaves no residue after the withholding period... happy gardening 
Indacouch
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Water will kill a person if they drink to much without taking a leak ........point being even the safest things can injure harm or kill if used wrong .......I use azamax and neem on my plants to prevent problems and have had to use azamax late into flower on a few occasions .....no ill effects or complaints .....I believe azamax says it can be sprayed to the day of harvest .......but to each there own ....I'd rather do that than smoke bugs .......good luck everyone as long as your happy with your medicine that's all that matters
mr sunshine
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You shouldn't ever spray buds after the 2nd week of flower. Try making a tea with sprayed nuggs , yuk.
JorgeGonzales
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How did I get here?
Anyway, I use the shit out of neem indoors and out, never needed it in flower, but I might try the Dr Earth stuff instead.
But...let's just say I wouldn't let a pregnant woman smoke neem treated buds. Or a dude trying to knock a girl up. It's an abortifacient for women, and causes reversible sterility in men. You can argue it's safe, and is quickly rendered harmless, and the dosages are small, but anything that causes miscarriages and sterility can't really be classified as harmless. Mites won't kill babies.
Anyway, I use the shit out of neem indoors and out, never needed it in flower, but I might try the Dr Earth stuff instead.
But...let's just say I wouldn't let a pregnant woman smoke neem treated buds. Or a dude trying to knock a girl up. It's an abortifacient for women, and causes reversible sterility in men. You can argue it's safe, and is quickly rendered harmless, and the dosages are small, but anything that causes miscarriages and sterility can't really be classified as harmless. Mites won't kill babies.
mr sunshine
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Oil is oil, spray oil on nuggs and there will be oil on those said nugs. It won't kill or hurt you but that doesn't mean it's not there, most people use preventative sprays during veg and early in flower... If you have to spray your nuggs because they are infested, you fucked up. Same with caterpillars bt muthafuckers use that shit.
Uberknot
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You know what really bugs me......the fact that all that fallout from all those nuke tests got blown east across the United States. You have to wonder what the real after effects were year after year as it settled across the land......oh my bad....On Topic ..wonder if Nuclear Radiation can kill Mites? also do you think there are more bald guys across michigan because of all that fallout coming up here? which altered genetics over the last 70+ years? Or do you think the fact we used to have leaded gas and ran that for decades and decades that it's dangerous to hitch hike because you might breath in lead dust from the side of the road? or should the air you breath while driving your car be filtered better?
Ok time to smoke a doob......way to serious.
Anyhow I hope I never see those stupid little bastard mites!!
Ok time to smoke a doob......way to serious.
Anyhow I hope I never see those stupid little bastard mites!!
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claypipe69
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oops toooo much
pinner420
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Once a month hit your intakes and and parameters whether you have the borg or not... vigilance is key.