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Stoney McFried

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When it comes to Bush, there is no debate. His moronic presidency has set this country back 50 years. It is so obvious to anyone with two braincells that a debate would be infantile. No matter what he passes or tries to pass, the damage has been done and there is no reversing it untill the next presidential cycle. Bush is definently a closed case for me. Fuck Bush and his whole cabinet, criminals all.
I'm sorry, I guess I'm a dirty filthy stinking liberal too. George Bush is evil. Yes its my opinion, I don't want to debate or insult or fight about it. I've been over it with folks again and again. We can all just agree to disagree. Two movies to watch....Zeitgeist and American Drug War.
 

mockingbird131313

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I'm sorry, I guess I'm a dirty filthy stinking liberal too. George Bush is evil. Yes its my opinion, I don't want to debate or insult or fight about it. I've been over it with folks again and again. We can all just agree to disagree. Two movies to watch....Zeitgeist and American Drug War.
To identify evil does NOT make you a liberal. GB is very evil, and he causes pain in the hearts of both liberals and conservatives.
 

Stoney McFried

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To identify evil does NOT make you a liberal. GB is very evil, and he causes pain in the hearts of both liberals and conservatives.
I guess I really don't know what to classify myself as...I vote democrat. I support abortion rights, free speech, and the right to bear arms.If someone wants to burn a flag or grow a weed or shoot some smack, I support that, too. I don't think the government should have a right to steal my property, or put drugs in my drinking water, or inject me with a microchip that will tell me whether its appropriate to yell SIEG HEIL when dictator Bush comes to town. I don't think it takes a village to raise a child, but I do think that more folks in the village should tend to their own damn children and stay out of my business. I'm for education, too, just as long as they realize that I may not agree with everything theyre teaching and may decide to tell the kids what my take on it is. I also think we should take care of our own folks first before we go worrying about other countries, and I believe we really don't need funding for another goddamn nuke. What am I?:confused:
 

medicineman

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I guess I really don't know what to classify myself as...I vote democrat. I support abortion rights, free speech, and the right to bear arms.If someone wants to burn a flag or grow a weed or shoot some smack, I support that, too. I don't think the government should have a right to steal my property, or put drugs in my drinking water, or inject me with a microchip that will tell me whether its appropriate to yell SIEG HEIL when dictator Bush comes to town. I don't think it takes a village to raise a child, but I do think that more folks in the village should tend to their own damn children and stay out of my business. I'm for education, too, just as long as they realize that I may not agree with everything theyre teaching and may decide to tell the kids what my take on it is. I also think we should take care of our own folks first before we go worrying about other countries, and I believe we really don't need funding for another goddamn nuke. What am I?:confused:
I'd say you're a pretty normal person, with values and morals. I'd be proud to call you my friend. I share your values to a tee.
 

medicineman

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The class bully, a second year senior, announces that he is persecuted because he is surrounded by dangerous extremists. "Any of you PUSSIES out there think you are bad enough to take me down? I am not at full strength right now. The neighbor's bull kicked me last night. I guess he didn't appreciate the competition. So if any of you LOSERS manage to land a blow it will be a lucky shot. Failing that, you'll cheat because you can't win a fair fight. Notice my pun, see how clever I am? You are all a bunch of racists and Nazis."

At 3:00 O'Clock at the flagpole, where you announced the thrashing would occur, a sophmore waited for you. Not the class president or the captain of the football team. They learned to ignore you long ago. No, it was an average student. A Boy Scout and baseball player weary of your intolerable behavior. You started with your usual intimidation, but this young man was not cowed by your bellicose antics and beat you like a rented mule in front of the entire student body.

How delightful it has been to see the class bully get his ass handed to him. How poetic it is to see you wailing and gnashing your teeth, crying crocodile tears because the popular kids think you are a creep. When you slinked back on campus after licking your wounds, you noticed something different. Nobody is afraid of you. So you go about reasserting your dominance: meek and respectful at first. but it didn't take long for you to revert to your old tricks. Like any bully you blame your victims for your own bad behavior.



I know your response. "I was only joking." That is a lie. You were deadly serious. Rational people don't use invective like "KKK" in jest. Those are fighting words, but I'll tell you a secret Med: You cannot define anyone but yourself. And you define yourself as a coward. An insufferable know-it-all who interprets all dissent as a personal affront.

You are a stuck and bleeding pig. You get trapped and you flail out in rage at your own impotence. The weapons you employ are ineffective, but have a disaterous effect on you. As the bile spews out of your mouth everyone sees you for what you are.



There is a Nazi and a racist on this forum. I don't have to point fingers and make baseless accusations because everyone knows the truth through your own words. Who has the KKK mentality? Is it the one who consistently uses race as a divisive issue? Every time you lash out you show the world who you are. Squeal piggy!

Check-mate.
Geeze, what can I say, attacked by an idiot. There is really no response to the above idiotic post except to say, fuck you and BTW you really mis-diagnosed me. I've been the one fighting class bullies since 1st grade, other than that, your opinion really doesn't mean shit to me. thanks for being interested though.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Geeze, what can I say, attacked by an idiot. There is really no response to the above idiotic post except to say, fuck you and BTW you really mis-diagnosed me. I've been the one fighting class bullies since 1st grade, other than that, your opinion really doesn't mean shit to me. thanks for being interested though.
Med, you are a textbook case of a bully. Face the facts.

I am a strict Constitutionalist. I believe the Bill of Rights is one of the most important documents in all of history. Chief among those is the First Amendment. I happily tolerate dissenting opinions. Med, you can bray on until you lose your voice. I would never attempt to silence you. Based on your hateful rhetoric and witch-hunt mentality, I sincerely doubt you would afford me the same courtesy.

You abuse the First Amendment then try to hide behind it. The constitution does not protect irresponsible speech. And Med, your choice of words are too dangerous to throw around callously. You can't keep yelling "Fire" in the movie theatre and expect to walk away unscathed. Everybody gets placed in harm's way.

I am not attempting to censor you. I am asking you, for the good of the RIU community, to consider what in your bombast is censorable and act responsibly.
 

Stoney McFried

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I'd say you're a pretty normal person, with values and morals. I'd be proud to call you my friend. I share your values to a tee.
Thank you very much, MM...theres lots of labels for political beliefs and it all gets a bit confusing...I guess I'm a member of the political party of "Me"!:blsmoke:
 
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medicineman

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Med, you are a textbook case of a bully. Face the facts.

I am a strict Constitutionalist. I believe the Bill of Rights is one of the most important documents in all of history. Chief among those is the First Amendment. I happily tolerate dissenting opinions. Med, you can bray on until you lose your voice. I would never attempt to silence you. Based on your hateful rhetoric and witch-hunt mentality, I sincerely doubt you would afford me the same courtesy.

You abuse the First Amendment then try to hide behind it. The constitution does not protect irresponsible speech. And Med, your choice of words are too dangerous to throw around callously. You can't keep yelling "Fire" in the movie theatre and expect to walk away unscathed. Everybody gets placed in harm's way.

I am not attempting to censor you. I am asking you, for the good of the RIU community, to consider what in your bombast is censorable and act responsibly.
WTF are you talking about. My hateful rhetoric is expressly directed at a few hateful persons. ViRedd, GW Bush, Zenmaster, the whole Bush cabinet. Other than them, I basically only reply to hateful messages directed my way with zeal. I guess I can add you to my list of assholes. What about the first amendment do you suggest I am abusing if it is freedom of speech? You make less than sense.
 

Johnnyorganic

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WTF are you talking about. My hateful rhetoric is expressly directed at a few hateful persons. ViRedd, GW Bush, Zenmaster, the whole Bush cabinet. Other than them, I basically only reply to hateful messages directed my way with zeal. I guess I can add you to my list of assholes. What about the first amendment do you suggest I am abusing if it is freedom of speech? You make less than sense.
You started this thread so complaining about the responses is pretty childish. Something deep inside you wanted to know what we all find so objectionable about Medicineman. I told you the truth based on what I have experienced here. It is my perspective, but it is similar to many others on this forum. I did you a favor, Med. But I am certain you assume I hate you because I believe you hate those of us who do not agree with you. I don't hate anybody which anyone can verify examining my posts.

However, I will no longer passively endure your abuse. Continue down your current path and I will regularly expose you for the sad and surly clown that you are. A stale and pitiable joke who has not realized that he is the punchline. Every time you stumble into my field of fire I will level you if it suits me. But it will never be out of hate or anger, just tough love.
 

medicineman

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You started this thread so complaining about the responses is pretty childish. Something deep inside you wanted to know what we all find so objectionable about Medicineman. I told you the truth based on what I have experienced here. It is my perspective, but it is similar to many others on this forum. I did you a favor, Med. But I am certain you assume I hate you because I believe you hate those of us who do not agree with you. I don't hate anybody which anyone can verify examining my posts.

However, I will no longer passively endure your abuse. Continue down your current path and I will regularly expose you for the sad and surly clown that you are. A stale and pitiable joke who has not realized that he is the punchline. Every time you stumble into my field of fire I will level you if it suits me. But it will never be out of hate or anger, just tough love.
Jesus Christ you are such a pitiful asshole. Who made you the judge and jury. Why do you think you are so superior? I've witnessed egomaniacs in my day but you certainly take the cake. Breaking me down, what a fucking joke. Expose away asshole, like you said, it is an expression of yourself and your own inadequacies. You are the joke.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Expose away asshole, like you said, it is an expression of yourself and your own inadequacies.
I happy to see you agree with an 'idiot' like me. See, Med, what I can't understand is how one can be an 'idiot' yet part of a vast, right wing conspiracy. What are we: Complete morons or criminal masterminds usurping our government?

You read like a cheap comic book.
 

Seamaiden

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Med, Johnny's got you nailed to a T. He makes observations, not once calling you names, and what do you resort to? He's an asshole, an idiot, a fag, you name it. Then, when I agree with his observation that you must be a homophobe you tell me to look in the mirror. Where am I, or Johnny, doing that you do?

Not to mention your flip-flopping on whether or not you actually smoke weed, it brings me to think that you'll lie at the drop of a hat. You actually remind me of a politician in how you do that. :lol: Of course, we've already had our little go-round on that one, haven't we? ;)

You hate anyone whose opinion differs from yours, you allow no one that freedom except yourself, plain and simple. What I have yet to figure out is how it is that someone like you gets to remain on this board, contributing absolutely nothing of value (related to gardening), yet someone like Lacy is banned because a mod is pissed at her for reasons completely unknown to most of the rest of us.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Med, Johnny's got you nailed to a T. He makes observations, not once calling you names, and what do you resort to? He's an asshole, an idiot, a fag, you name it. Then, when I agree with his observation that you must be a homophobe you tell me to look in the mirror. Where am I, or Johnny, doing that you do?

Not to mention your flip-flopping on whether or not you actually smoke weed, it brings me to think that you'll lie at the drop of a hat. You actually remind me of a politician in how you do that. :lol: Of course, we've already had our little go-round on that one, haven't we? ;)

You hate anyone whose opinion differs from yours, you allow no one that freedom except yourself, plain and simple. What I have yet to figure out is how it is that someone like you gets to remain on this board, contributing absolutely nothing of value (related to gardening), yet someone like Lacy is banned because a mod is pissed at her for reasons completely unknown to most of the rest of us.
Thanks for the support. We should revisit my statement regarding how Med defines himself. His defense is that by exposing him, I am revealing myself to be that. This is circular logic.

Med, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.

Freud said everybody projects to some degree or another. Most of us talk quietly and edit ourselves when we project. Med bellows his unsavory tendencies for everyone to see.
 
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medicineman

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Thanks for the support. We should revisit my statement regarding how Med defines himself. His defense is that by exposing him, I am revealing myself to be that. This is circular logic.

Med, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.

Freud said everybody projects to some degree or another. Most of us talk quietly and edit ourselves when we project. Med bellows his unsavory tendencies for everyone to see.
Am I supposed to insert thank you doctor here? Are you a psychiatrist or a fraud. I suppose you are one of those educated fools from some uneducated school that doesn't know common sense from Adam. I may bellow like a wounded bull, but most of my posts are in jest. There are a couple of fellows on here that get my blood boiling, You have just joined the ranks, But in reality, I could really care less abolut your pernicious exclamations. If you knew me, you would have an entirely different perspective on me. As for SM, I am still trying to figure out what set you off against me, I guess you may be (insert name) or something. You seem to take pleasure in joining in with others to demean me, Geeze I am developing a cult following. Well all you Med Haters can kiss me where the sun don't shine. I'll take your criticisms under advisement and see if there is any salvagable interaction, if not then so be it.
 
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