Flouride lowers IQ

MellowFarmer

MellowFarmer

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ginjawarrior said:
Paid? No I'm happy to do this shit for free.

Tell me again how kitchen chemists cooking up meth are safer than big pharma or fluoridated water
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damn your dumber than I thought! you spread disinformation about cannabis on a cannabis grow forum for free? so sorry for your pathetic life! :blsmoke:
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
MellowFarmer said:
damn your dumber than I thought! you spread disinformation about cannabis on a cannabis grow forum for free? so sorry for your pathetic life! :blsmoke:
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Erm weren't we just talking about meth and flouride?

Calling you a shitstain of a parent for getting your kids stoned in the other thread is hardly disinformation about cannabis
 
MellowFarmer

MellowFarmer

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ginjawarrior said:
Erm weren't we just talking about meth and flouride?

Calling you a shitstain of a parent for getting your kids stoned in the other thread is hardly disinformation about cannabis
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FACT: Cannabis Cures Cancer

FACT: There is no evidence from credible studies that Cannabis has any nasty side effects.

Aspirin is more dangerous than cannabis. Do you give your poor children aspirin?

[h=1]how to .. marijuana[/h]
herb, grass, weed, Mary Jane, and reefer, are still used, Aunt Mary, skunk, boom, gangster, kif, ganja






























[h=2]Monday, January 5, 2009[/h] [h=3]Aspirin vs. Marijuana[/h]
Written by nunya


This is a repost with a few edits…

When Bayer introduced aspirin in 1899, cannabis was America’s number one painkiller. Until marijuana prohibition began in 1937, the US Pharmacopoeia listed cannabis as the primary medicine for over 100 diseases. Cannabis was such an effective analgesic that the American Medical Association (AMA) argued against prohibition on behalf of medical progress. Since the herb is extremely potent and essentially non-toxic, the AMA considered it a potential wonder drug.

Instead, the invention of aspirin gave birth to the modern pharmaceutical industry and Americans switched away from cannabis in the name of “progress.” But was it really progress? There can be no doubt that aspirin has a long history as the drug of choice for the self-treatment of migraines, arthritis, and other chronic pain. It is cheap and effective. But is it as safe as cannabis?

History:

Marijuana has been used for over 5,000 years.
No one has ever overdosed on marijuana.
Aspirin has been used for 108 years.
Approximately 500 people die every year by taking aspirin
The Law:

Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, meaning the US government believes it is extremely dangerous, highly addictive, and of no medical value.
Aspirin is available for pennies and can be purchased by children at any drug, grocery, or convenience store. Often they are just handed out free by people with no medical education.
Marijuana side effects and dangers:

The dangers of marijuana include possible respiratory problems caused by the deposition of burnt plant material on the lungs. This danger can be eliminated with alternate forms of consumption such as eating or vaporizing the medicine.
For two to four hours, marijuana causes short-term memory loss, a slight reduction in reaction time, and a reduction in cognitive ability. (It makes you stupid for a little while.)These conditions DO NOT persist after the herb wears off.

Hunger
Paranoia
Depression
Laughter
Introspection
Creative Impulse
Euphoria
Tiredness
Forgetfulness
Aspirin side effects and dangers:

When taken with alcohol, aspirin can cause stomach bleeding.
Reye Syndrome in children: fat begins to develop around the liver and other organs of the child, eventually putting severe pressure on the brain. Death is common within a few days.
People with hemophilia can die.
People with hyperthyroidism suffer elevated T4 levels.
Stomach problems include dyspepsia, heartburn, upset stomach, stomach ulcers with gross bleeding, and internal bleeding leading to anemia.
Dizziness, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, vertigo, vision disturbances, and headaches.
Heavy sweating
Irreversible liver damage
Inflamation and gradual destruction of the kidneys
Nausea and vomiting
Abdominal pain
Lethargy
Hyperthermia
Dyspepsia: a gnawing or burning stomach pain accompanied by bloating, heartburn, nausea, vomiting and burping.
Tachypnea: Abnormally fast breathing
Respiratory Alkalosis: a condition where the amount of carbon dioxide found in the blood drops to a level below normal range brought on by abnormally fast breathing.
Cerebral Edema: Water accumulates on the brain. Symptoms include headaches, decreased level of consciousness, loss of eyesight, hallucinations, psychotic behavior, memory loss and coma. If left untreated, it can lead to death.
Hallucinations, confusion, and seizure.
Prolonged bleeding after operations or post-trauma for up to 10 days after last aspirin.
Aspirin can interact with some other drugs, such as diabetes medication. Aspirin changes the way the body handles these drugs and can lead to a drug overdose and death.
If you think that cannabis is actually safer than aspirin, you are not alone. In October 2000, Dr. Leslie Iversen of the Oxford University Department of Pharmacology said the same thing.

In her book, ‘The Science of Marijuana,’ Dr. Iversen presents the scientific evidence that cannabis is, by-and-large, a safe drug. Dr. Iversen found cannabis had “an impressive record” when compared to tobacco, alcohol, or even aspirin.

“Tetrahydrocannabinol is a very safe drug,” she said. “Even such apparently innocuous medicines as aspirin and related steroidal anti-inflammatory compunds are not safe.”

So if safety is your concern, cannabis is clearly a much better choice than aspirin. If you eat it or vaporize it, it just might be the safest painkiller the world has ever known.


 
canndo

canndo

Well-Known Member
MellowFarmer said:
FACT: Cannabis Cures Cancer

FACT: There is no evidence from credible studies that Cannabis has any nasty side effects.

Aspirin is more dangerous than cannabis. Do you give your poor children aspirin?

how to .. marijuana


herb, grass, weed, Mary Jane, and reefer, are still used, Aunt Mary, skunk, boom, gangster, kif, ganja






























Monday, January 5, 2009

Aspirin vs. Marijuana


Written by nunya


This is a repost with a few edits…

When Bayer introduced aspirin in 1899, cannabis was America’s number one painkiller. Until marijuana prohibition began in 1937, the US Pharmacopoeia listed cannabis as the primary medicine for over 100 diseases. Cannabis was such an effective analgesic that the American Medical Association (AMA) argued against prohibition on behalf of medical progress. Since the herb is extremely potent and essentially non-toxic, the AMA considered it a potential wonder drug.

Instead, the invention of aspirin gave birth to the modern pharmaceutical industry and Americans switched away from cannabis in the name of “progress.” But was it really progress? There can be no doubt that aspirin has a long history as the drug of choice for the self-treatment of migraines, arthritis, and other chronic pain. It is cheap and effective. But is it as safe as cannabis?

History:

Marijuana has been used for over 5,000 years.
No one has ever overdosed on marijuana.
Aspirin has been used for 108 years.
Approximately 500 people die every year by taking aspirin
The Law:

Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, meaning the US government believes it is extremely dangerous, highly addictive, and of no medical value.
Aspirin is available for pennies and can be purchased by children at any drug, grocery, or convenience store. Often they are just handed out free by people with no medical education.
Marijuana side effects and dangers:

The dangers of marijuana include possible respiratory problems caused by the deposition of burnt plant material on the lungs. This danger can be eliminated with alternate forms of consumption such as eating or vaporizing the medicine.
For two to four hours, marijuana causes short-term memory loss, a slight reduction in reaction time, and a reduction in cognitive ability. (It makes you stupid for a little while.)These conditions DO NOT persist after the herb wears off.

Hunger
Paranoia
Depression
Laughter
Introspection
Creative Impulse
Euphoria
Tiredness
Forgetfulness
Aspirin side effects and dangers:

When taken with alcohol, aspirin can cause stomach bleeding.
Reye Syndrome in children: fat begins to develop around the liver and other organs of the child, eventually putting severe pressure on the brain. Death is common within a few days.
People with hemophilia can die.
People with hyperthyroidism suffer elevated T4 levels.
Stomach problems include dyspepsia, heartburn, upset stomach, stomach ulcers with gross bleeding, and internal bleeding leading to anemia.
Dizziness, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, vertigo, vision disturbances, and headaches.
Heavy sweating
Irreversible liver damage
Inflamation and gradual destruction of the kidneys
Nausea and vomiting
Abdominal pain
Lethargy
Hyperthermia
Dyspepsia: a gnawing or burning stomach pain accompanied by bloating, heartburn, nausea, vomiting and burping.
Tachypnea: Abnormally fast breathing
Respiratory Alkalosis: a condition where the amount of carbon dioxide found in the blood drops to a level below normal range brought on by abnormally fast breathing.
Cerebral Edema: Water accumulates on the brain. Symptoms include headaches, decreased level of consciousness, loss of eyesight, hallucinations, psychotic behavior, memory loss and coma. If left untreated, it can lead to death.
Hallucinations, confusion, and seizure.
Prolonged bleeding after operations or post-trauma for up to 10 days after last aspirin.
Aspirin can interact with some other drugs, such as diabetes medication. Aspirin changes the way the body handles these drugs and can lead to a drug overdose and death.
If you think that cannabis is actually safer than aspirin, you are not alone. In October 2000, Dr. Leslie Iversen of the Oxford University Department of Pharmacology said the same thing.

In her book, ‘The Science of Marijuana,’ Dr. Iversen presents the scientific evidence that cannabis is, by-and-large, a safe drug. Dr. Iversen found cannabis had “an impressive record” when compared to tobacco, alcohol, or even aspirin.

“Tetrahydrocannabinol is a very safe drug,” she said. “Even such apparently innocuous medicines as aspirin and related steroidal anti-inflammatory compunds are not safe.”

So if safety is your concern, cannabis is clearly a much better choice than aspirin. If you eat it or vaporize it, it just might be the safest painkiller the world has ever known.


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However:


Aspirin is an anti-inflamatory that may reduce cancer, heart and circulatory disease, stroke and possibly other diseases related to cronic inflamation. It has mild anti-coagulant properties that may substitute for other far more dangerous "blood thinners". It's pain killing properties have long been effectively used and there are relatively few cronic users. Compare that to the millions of cronic marijuana users. Aspirin has no mind altering effects, one can drive and operate machinery immediately after taking aspirin.

Comparing one universal "good" drug with another and claiming that one is better than the other is a false logic.
 
dtp5150

dtp5150

Well-Known Member
canndo said:
However:


Aspirin is an anti-inflamatory that may reduce cancer, heart and circulatory disease, stroke and possibly other diseases related to cronic inflamation. It has mild anti-coagulant properties that may substitute for other far more dangerous "blood thinners". It's pain killing properties have long been effectively used and there are relatively few cronic users. Compare that to the millions of cronic marijuana users. Aspirin has no mind altering effects, one can drive and operate machinery immediately after taking aspirin.

Comparing one universal "good" drug with another and claiming that one is better than the other is a false logic.
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And in your superior logic, you compare aspirin with other more damaging drugs as justification for it being "good"....

I dont think saying cannabis is safer than aspirin is illogical. If you wish to test this logic, lets do an LD50 test for each substance!

Know what also reduces cancer, heart and circulatory disease, stroke and just about every other disease humans can suffer from? Dont smoke cigarettes, moderately intake of fermented beverages, A healthy diet with no refined sugars, low in meat ( especially processed ), high in fiber with lots of fruits and vegetables, combined with regular cardiovascular exercise. Its that simple. Oh ya, cannabis too!
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
dtp5150 said:
And in your superior logic, you compare aspirin with other more damaging drugs....

I dont think saying cannabis is safer than aspirin is illogical. If you wish to test this logic, lets do an LD50 test for each substance!
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LD50 is only a splinter of the whole story. i have heard no reports of aspitrn use impairing brain growth and function in adolescent males. cn
 
canndo

canndo

Well-Known Member
dtp5150 said:
And in your superior logic, you compare aspirin with other more damaging drugs as justification for it being "good"....

I dont think saying cannabis is safer than aspirin is illogical. If you wish to test this logic, lets do an LD50 test for each substance!

Know what also reduces cancer, heart and circulatory disease, stroke and just about every other disease humans can suffer from? Dont smoke cigarettes, moderately intake of fermented beverages, A healthy diet with no refined sugars, low in meat ( especially processed ), high in fiber with lots of fruits and vegetables, combined with regular cardiovascular exercise. Its that simple. Oh ya, cannabis too!
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As Cannabineer says, LD50 is not the only measure of a drug's safety. the LD50 of diazapam is very very high, that doesn't mean it is a benign drug. Not smoking cigarettes is not a drug, nor is low meat and high fiber.

We know that it is possible to die from consumption of too much water - does that make water more dangerous than marijuana?
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
Good thing the FDA can protect us from anti-depressants that have suicidal side effects and stuff like that.... oh wait.
 
canndo

canndo

Well-Known Member
lifegoesonbrah said:
Good thing the FDA can protect us from anti-depressants that have suicidal side effects and stuff like that.... oh wait.
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Funny thing about the FDA, we havn't seen any thalidomide flipper babies in this country for a long time now. The FDA may not be what we wish them to be but we are saved from a large number of other "mistakes".
 
dtp5150

dtp5150

Well-Known Member
canndo said:
As Cannabineer says, LD50 is not the only measure of a drug's safety. the LD50 of diazapam is very very high, that doesn't mean it is a benign drug. Not smoking cigarettes is not a drug, nor is low meat and high fiber.

We know that it is possible to die from consumption of too much water - does that make water more dangerous than marijuana?
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Good point. But when has someone taken too much water to DIE? I will tell you. From being in money/power-induced trances they drank enough water to die in order to get concert tickets or join a frat or some other human-dicated achievement.

Water is indeed a medicine. It is life. Water is life. Hydrogen combined with 2 oxygen atoms is a major factor why life, as we know it, exists on this planet. Until you add human influence, then it becomes death....

Of course, when i talk about water = life, I mean ecologically pure water. No industrial waste products.

But, YOU DID NOTHING TO SUPPORT AN OPPOSITION AGAINST MY STATEMENT

NOBODY HAS EVER DIED FROM OVERDOSE OF MJ, PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM OVERDOSE OF WATER FROM SOCIETAL PRESSURE. I WILL NOT REFUTE THE EVIDENCE THAT SOCIETAL PRESSURE CAN CAUSE SOMEONE TO DIE FROM THE WILLINGFUL OVERCONSUMPTION OF SOMETHING OTHER THAN CANNABIS.

Where is the news story " 25 year old dies from overconsumption of cannabis while attempting to get concert tickets for a radio station ( owned by corporations, pushing Jockeys for ratings )?"
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
dtp5150 said:
Good point. But when has someone taken too much water to DIE? I will tell you. From being in money/power-induced trances they drank enough water to die in order to get concert tickets or join a frat or some other human-dicated achievement.

Water is indeed a medicine. It is life. Water is life. Hydrogen combined with 2 oxygen atoms is why life exists. Until you add human influence, then it becomes death....
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The Solnhofen limestone records water as an agent of death long before there were humans. I don't buy into the "humans are the source of evil" concept.
I am not following your money/power-induced trance argument. please elaborate? cn
 
deprave

deprave

New Member
canndo said:
Funny thing about the FDA, we havn't seen any thalidomide flipper babies in this country for a long time now. The FDA may not be what we wish them to be but we are saved from a large number of other "mistakes".
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I especially love how the FDA doesn't involve itself in corruption with giant mega corporations and do their bidding against our best interest...oh wait....

Your right I am gad we have this magical FDA with its superhuman powers protecting us from evils...without their giantl monopoly on power we would surely flail about like helpless fish out of water. Ultimately I think we can all thank Zytor from the Nexicon galaxy 5 for granthing such superhuman magical powers to our rulers. All hail Zytor Queen of the Unicorns and granter of magical powers to authortarian regimes everywhere, the birth mother!
 
MellowFarmer

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
cannabineer said:
LD50 is only a splinter of the whole story. i have heard no reports of aspitrn use impairing brain growth and function in adolescent males. cn
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Has anyone bothered to study if aspirin does? The only reason a study was done on cannabis is to spread disinformation. The research doesn't prove shit if those studied are also heavy drinkers and likely use harder drugs -

Ashtari added that the findings are preliminary. Among other limitations of the study, such as a small sample size, five of the 14 subjects with heavy cannabis use also had a history of alcohol abuse, which may have contributed an effect. Also, it is possible that the brain abnormalities may have predisposed the subjects to drug dependence, rather than drug usage causing the brain abnormalities.
 
dtp5150

dtp5150

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The only reason cannabineer, the troll being who likes helpless creatures but ignores environmental collapse due to corporate interests..., was created to spread disinformation lol.

lol i joke, but this person is a fragile being. Ignoring is the best route, not rational argumentation.
 
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