Early bud, any tips?

Ivan101

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*What may have contributed*
-Planted in June
- Gave a solution of soap and alcohol to get rid of spider mites 2 weeks into vegetation (May have been too strong)
-Watered too frequently early on as sprouts
-Was a period of time where it was clouded in my area for 2 weeks
 

Boreal Curing

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A lot can keep them small. A small pot, poor soil, small light, but the last picture shows mold or fungus damage to the stalk.

Unless you put them in the ground and feed and water regularly, they'll be small. Even then, if it's poor soil, you'll have to dig a good hole and fill it with a supersoil. A good hole is one that is wider than it is deep. So 3' wide x 1' deep is better than 1'x3' deep. The downside to that is that the plant will need support once the buds start packing on weight. But that a good problem right?

Indoor, some experienced growers can get 1 to 1.5 grams per watt (light). Some have mentioned 2 grams, but ... that's stretching it I think.

Outdoor, if you want to grow a 5 pounder, start her in April, transplant often, get her out June 1, and be prepared for a shit load of work. One big plant can overwhelm a new grower pretty quick.
 
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Ivan101

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One huge factor would be that they weren't even close to ready to be harvested.

If they were the size of that last photo then they didn't veg long enough either.
All my plants started to bud after one month from germination, July is when they started budding. Fast forward 3 months, I figured it was time to harvest since some of my plants started to re-veg. Should've waited longer, but you learn as you go. Appreciate the feedback.
 

Ivan101

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A lot can keep them small. A small pot, poor soil, small light, but the last picture shows mold or fungus damage to the stalk.

Unless you put them in the ground and feed and water regularly, they'll be small. Even then, if it's poor soil, you'll have to dig a good hole and fill it with a supersoil. A good hole is one that is wider than it is deep. So 3' wide x 1' deep is better than 1'x3' deep. The downside to that is that the plant will need support once the buds start packing on weight. But that a good problem right?

Indoor, some experienced growers can get 1 to 1.5 grams per watt (light). Some have mentioned 2 grams, but ... that's stretching it I think.

Outdoor, if you want to grow a 5 pounder, start her in April, transplant often, get her out June 1, and be prepared for a shit load of work. One big plant can overwhelm a new grower pretty quick.
Im located in central California, I've heard many tell me to plant in February to early days of March, I'll pop some beans in April and do a comparison though. But check these 8 inch plants! :lol:
 

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Boreal Curing

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June is for further north. For Cali? ya, Feb/March would be great.

Damn.. lol. ok. There's so much wrong here.

1st of all, you have too many plants in there. They should be that size as seedlings.
2nd, you never fed them.
3rd, your soil is dead.

Make this super soil.
Ignore using the pots and fill your raised bed to the top with it.
https://www.borealcuring.com/growing_tools/super_soil.php
(you can make this soil now and save it in bins, garbage cans, or even just cover it with a tarp until you need it.)

Use a seed starting mix to start your germinated seeds. Use the supersoil in small pots at first transplant (about week 6) to get them going. I suggest you start seedlings indoor, keep four of the best, and kill the rest. 4 is lots. You'll have a couple hours defoliating when they flower. Get a LED light to start them. Even a shop light will do. A window sill won't work.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Maxxima-4-ft-300-Watt-Equivalent-LED-White-Shop-Light-MSL-404600SC/311264314

Once your plants get 6 inches tall, transplant to a little bigger pot. Transplant again at 1 foot. By that time, from 8 seedlings, you should have it down to the 4 best plants. Wait another 2-4 weeks, plant and water them in your space. You don't need to feed with the supersoil recipe above. Just water. You can add a tablespoon of Epsom salt per gallon of water every once in a while. I'll say this again. Water water water. Water every 3 days. Two if it's super hot and you see them drooping.

If you do this, you'll need stakes them to hold them up come flowering time, and you'll realize that only two plants would have been enough.
 

old_smoke

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Are those tomatoes in the raised bed? They look to be doing well. I'm a new grower myself so can't give any advice, but I can tell you my experience. I am growing a plant in the ground and giving it the exact same nutrients and water as I give to my tomato plants (10-10-10 and ag gypsum) on the exact same schedule. I've attached a photo.

Based on my experience, I would be looking at the genetics of your plants.
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