Drooping Autoflower Seedlings

tehcheese10

Active Member
Hello,

I germinated and planted these seeds a little over a week ago. Seedlings leaves are droopy but otherwise seems healthy and green. Is the droopiness something i should worry about?

PH:5.5-6.5
No nutes
24hour light cycle (i know this is controversial but i am giving it a try)
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tehcheese10

Active Member
So i had an idea. As was unable to find someone using an aerogarden who had the same issues. However whenever someone had this issue in soil it normally seemed to be due to over watering. Now I understand it is very hard to over water using a drip system like an aerogarden has, however I still had my pump settings turned on very low, 5 mins on and 2 hours off. Therefore I don' believe the roots were getting enough oxygen, similar to what happens when you over water. I just changed my pump settings to 60 mins on and 30 mins off. We will see if my theory is correct.

Please tell me if I am an idiot or if maybe I am on to something.
Thanks
 

rkymtnman

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So i had an idea. As was unable to find someone using an aerogarden who had the same issues. However whenever someone had this issue in soil it normally seemed to be due to over watering. Now I understand it is very hard to over water using a drip system like an aerogarden has, however I still had my pump settings turned on very low, 5 mins on and 2 hours off. Therefore I don' believe the roots were getting enough oxygen, similar to what happens when you over water. I just changed my pump settings to 60 mins on and 30 mins off. We will see if my theory is correct.

Please tell me if I am an idiot or if maybe I am on to something.
Thanks
i use something very similar to that. i use rapid rooters and mine runs 24/7. the rapid rooters are always soaking wet. never had an issue
 

rkymtnman

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Interesting, whenever I have tried to germinate directly in the aerogarden the pump seems to over-saturate the AG grow sponges, ends up drowning the seed.
so my device is called a Prepara power plant. similar theory to the AG. but instead of the sponge that comes with it, Rapid Rooters fit perfectly in the holes. i've been using it to start seeds for many years and i have a really great success rate wiht it.
 

Larry3215

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Try Googling curling or clawing leaves.

What causes that symptom varies a little depending on who you ask - which seems to be the norm with our plants ;)
The top contenders are: Over watering, Under watering, nitrogen toxicity, too hot, too cold, over feeding, under feeding, low humidity, bad soil, wind burn, light burn, bad genetics.

In other words - darn near any thing at all that the plant doesnt like!

Here are just a few links:


 

harrythehat

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those leafs are OK the little ones are praying though you can see the nutrient is not strong enough.
Seedlings can start with full strength nutes 2.0 believe it or not go below 1.4 and you will see deficiencies
Cuttings cannot start on full strength nutes they need a lower start, 1.4/6 then build up to 2.0 sounds strange i know
but its perfectly true I tell no lies
 

harrythehat

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them seedlings the smallest on top left one had a broken stem propped with black sticks others hand shucked. Were started @ 2.0 after 15 days they ended up like that.
When I write something I have evidence to back it up. Not into posting BS. If I get something wrong will hold my hands up only come here to help people out
the power is in the flow
Thank you
 

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rkymtnman

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them seedlings the smallest on top left one had a broken stem propped with black sticks others hand shucked. Were started @ 2.0 after 15 days they ended up like that.
When I write something I have evidence to back it up. Not into posting BS. If I get something wrong will hold my hands up only come here to help people out
the power is in the flow
Thank you
just saying what works for you doesn't work for everybody. i don't feed higher EVER than 0.8 and that's with 0.2 well water= 0.6 net.
that's like saying i always drive to work at 120mph and i never been caught.
 

harrythehat

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Strangely I only do 55mph but the driving a 28 year old P100 it don't go a lot quicker anyway.
Any active system bubblers/aeroponics can start as seedling as long as it has its first set of real leaves
the more passive
ebb and flow and NFT if they have been set up can do it as well.
the power is in the flow
thank you
 

rkymtnman

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Any active system bubblers/aeroponics can start as seedling as long as it has its first set of real leaves
still bad advice. i can't feed 2EC to 5 ft tall plants. let alone a seedling.
sounds to me like you are wasting nutes IMO.
to each his own though. good luck!
 

Larry3215

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I never go over EC 0.8, even mid flower, and more usually stay around 0.4-0.6. My current babies started drooping after I went from 0.4 to 0.6 last rez change. Last night I dropped back to 0.4, and they are already starting to perk up.
 

rkymtnman

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I stay at ec of 1 to 1.1 and if i gave 2.0 they would be fucked
i did that on my first plant. if you use Lucas formula, it says you can run 8/16 from seedling to harvest. that gives about EC of 2 which almost melted my leaves. killed the shit out of her in a day. lesson learned (the hard way lol)
 
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