Deceit in History and Today

I'm not a master conspiracy artist, but I have been finding similarities over hundreds of year around wars and devastation. I almost started thinking Hitler might have been onto something, but of coarse in todays society, that is definitely not okay, so I told myself there was no way - and his actions were excessive.

Well this article today regarding al Qaeda....

A quote from the article
".... bin Laden's message as warning Americans against "falling as slaves" to the control of major corporations and "Jewish money capital."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/09/13/al.qaeda.message/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I don't believe every word I hear, however the whole al Qaeda thing is a mystery to the average American. We have no idea what their true intentions are. Are they extremist? or realist? They DO own the international banks and major media outlets.

Is the real war, a war of truth? why does every extremist hate the Jewish? Why does the Jewish control our media?

Maybe the direction of the American culture is not too different from slavery. Maybe our minds are controlled by the drugs and alcohol provided and the electronics we are orchestrated to use.

Any input?

It's very simple, none of these problems existed while the country was following the Constitution.

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent they conquered."
Thomas Jefferson

Thank you,

The banks control our lives. Without our paychecks, without the paper money and the banks to trust holding it, we could not manage. We are owned by the Chinese, we make our own decisions and spend other peoples money. America is basically an out of control teenager with his dad's credit card. When the credit card is useless, how important will their words be?

will we run from the 'less than lethal' police force? will we join the army if they won't give us a gun? will we stand for freedrom if the choice isn't ours?

You make a good point,Mr Neutron

Well there could be something to that 1022. In reference the fact that the middle east kicked the Jews out for what I understand to be elitists. So off to Germany they went and it was fine until Germany realized they were again being elitists. Doing business amongst themselves and only with themselves. We know how that turned out. Then some escaped to I think Venezuela... Now recently I think it is Venezuela that is attempting to kick them out of there for the same reason.
http://www.forward.com/articles/12500
I have my own belief that is why the US Govt are in the middle east, they are fighting for Israel for some very Rich powerful Jews who want that area back. Even at the cost of many lives as it most likely is NOT a Jew in the ranks as much as they are an Officer if even in uniform.
I think their way of life of only doing business with themselves is not healthy for those who share the same land they do.
Look at show-business for one. They went Ballistic over Mel Gibson and often make jokes about being Jewish and getting concessions because of it. It is almost like being a Racist or as I used an Elitist.
I know for sure that ALL religion is the cause of ALL wars and strife!

It is not America it is the American Government!

Excellent point. Money rules, absolutely power rules absolutely. The Jewish people signed a treaty in the 60's to end the war and leave, but they are still fighting. They must have been offered a lump sum in the deal. Only a true greedy person would take a deal for the sake of getting paid, only to refute it.

It is certainly a possibility that the Jewish people have a large remainder of the worlds gold in the middle east or some type of valuable source of monetary suppliment to sway countries, militaries, and religions.

If JEFFBLAZES comment about Hitler was in reference to me, I am in no way supporting Hitler or his actions. It is only concerning that such an intelligent man and powerful nation collapsed because they set their goals on cleaning the earth of infestation. What did they know that we didn't? I am sorry but no sane person decided to incinerate millions just because of a personal hatred of a race. Why were so many people on board? Did the media orchestrate the entire even to turn around? did the media paint an uglier picture of Germany than of the truth going on that Germany was fighting against? How many times has there been a great war for one purpose that was told afterwards as having an entirely different purpose? sorry if I am getting a little crazy here, just for the fun sake of brainstorming actuality.

Did anyone here know that over ten million German women were raped by Jews in the years leading up to WWII? This was before the day after pill, keep in mind.

Media can turn any event around into any picture they'd like to paint. Hell, my 98 year old grandmother is convinced there was never a WWII, despite both my grandfathers having fought. One was a blimp technician, the other trained men in sniping divisions. Neither left the country but obviously, there was a terrible, terrible war.

in conjunction, I have two Jewish sisters and dated a Jewish girl for 6 years. I'm not Hitler or a neonazi, I promise.

THENUMBER1022 said:

...Hitler might have been onto something...why does every extremist hate the Jewish? Why does the Jewish control our media?

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Cali chronic said:

...the middle east kicked the Jews out for what I understand to be elitists. So off to Germany they went and it was fine until Germany realized they were again being elitists. Doing business amongst themselves and only with themselves. We know how that turned out. Then some escaped to I think Venezuela... Now recently I think it is Venezuela that is attempting to kick them out of there for the same reason.
http://www.forward.com/articles/12500
I have my own belief that is why the US Govt are in the middle east, they are fighting for Israel for some very Rich powerful Jews who want that area back. Even at the cost of many lives as it most likely is NOT a Jew in the ranks as much as they are an Officer if even in uniform.
I think their way of life of only doing business with themselves is not healthy for those who share the same land they do.
Look at show-business for one. They went Ballistic over Mel Gibson and often make jokes about being Jewish and getting concessions because of it. It is almost like being a Racist or as I used an Elitist.

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THENUMBER1022 said:

The Jewish people signed a treaty in the 60's to end the war and leave, but they are still fighting. They must have been offered a lump sum in the deal. Only a true greedy person would take a deal for the sake of getting paid, only to refute it.

It is certainly a possibility that the Jewish people have a large remainder of the worlds gold in the middle east or some type of valuable source of monetary suppliment to sway countries, militaries, and religions.

.... cleaning the earth of infestation. What did they know that we didn't? I am sorry but no sane person decided to incinerate millions just because of a personal hatred of a race. Why were so many people on board?

Did anyone here know that over ten million German women were raped by Jews in the years leading up to WWII?

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THENUMBER1022 said:

in conjunction, I have two Jewish sisters and dated a Jewish girl for 6 years. I'm not Hitler or a neonazi, I promise.

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how am i late to this anti-semitic circle jerk?

and why did no one let me know that i was an elitist infestation that controls the media?

LOL UB You aren't really Jewish.

NoDrama said:

LOL UB You aren't really Jewish.

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I really see it as a two way street here....I don't get all this defend israel stuff...why do we even care? Israel is militant nation that attacks people thats what I see.....they also get attacked yes but so that doesn't mean they can kill civilians....

The hatred is also a two way street....what have the jew haters done to the word zion? they use it in a negative context to call someone a Zionist...it just shows their ignorance, but even more it shows their hatred for the young Israelites who claim themselves as Zionist like it means they are fighters for the will of god? What? God wouldn't want us to kill each other... Its very twisted that a few men have used deception for their own good and have manipulated so many people. Zionist = Nationalist since when? WTF?

I really don't think we should be involved but if I had to choose a side it wouldn't be Israel.

i don't see it as a two way street.

if the nations surrounding israel and calling for their obliteration lay down their arms, we will have peace.

if israel lays down its arms, it will cease to exist.

and the whole defending israel thing is simple: they are our main democratic ally in the region.

But why are we enforcing Democracy?

We are defending democracy and freedom. Anyone here want to live in a muslim nation? I didn't think so.

THENUMBER1022 said:

But why are we enforcing Democracy?

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are we enforcing it or defending it? did we force israel to become a democracy surrounded by medieval theocracies? with all its faults, democracy is still humanity's best chance for the liberty of the individual that has been the major reason we have advanced so far. it gives the people at least some say in their destinies and a certain amount of leeway in the way they choose to live their lives. if humanity is to continue its advance, it is the growth of the individual that must be cultivated and not merely the complexity of his societies.

THENUMBER1022 said:

But why are we enforcing Democracy?

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It's just not our war unfortunately. Its a mess we can't pull out of.

THENUMBER1022 said:

I'm not Hitler or a neonazi, I promise.

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yeah, i realized that you are just a dude with a grudge against jews.

THENUMBER1022 said:

Any ideas? I already posted a craigslist ad for a 150 dollar ls1 corvette engine with their information. They owe me 1100+ in unpaid training/contracts I signed. They are a very shady business and lose and gain an employee about once every two weeks. The jewish owner looks like a jersey shore wanna be who's hit his mid life crisis. He is telling me if I don't return my sample window, I will regret it.

I reported them to BBB but I would like to hear what great ideas some of you guys have.

I don't appreciate being threatened and it doesn't sound like I am getting my money.



HELP!

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lol just a coincidence, I swear! all my boses have literally been Jewish in the past 10 years.