crossing an auto with photoperiod

hey you guys just had a question for any one who may be able to answers.

so I've gotta a couple
blue cheese girls that are about to go in to flower

I've also got an auto blue mammoth from barnys farm. Just a seedling right now and its not a femed seed.
so there's a chance it could be a male
any ways I was wondering if the auto turned out to be a male.
would I be able to gather the pollen
and try to breed with the cheese.
what would those seeds turn out to be. Would the be normal or auto flower???

if the auto trait is dominant, the offspring would be 75% auto and 25% photo
if the opposite, then vise-versa
after that, you can breed it again to achieve 50% autos or photos, then again to get 100% autos or photos.

There is a special technique of breeding you might want to look into called cubing

they will be photo's more then likely until the offspring are bred with another auto then you will have to plant alot of seeds to find the auto trait
and then a plant that auto's from that cross is IBL'd ( bred with a auto sibling ) or pollen from another auto to lock in the auto trait
ive tried it and they always tend to be photo seeing how there is just a small amount of ruderalis left in a auto basically just the auto trait

photo x auto takes 5 - 9 generations to become " stable "

Nizza said:

if the auto trait is dominant, the offspring would be 75% auto and 25% photo
if the opposite, then vise-versa
after that, you can breed it again to achieve 50% autos or photos, then again to get 100% autos or photos.

There is a special technique of breeding you might want to look into called cubing

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yeah, it's the opposite nizza, auto is recessive, so you'd only have a 1 in 4 chance of the offspring being autos..

but if your not trying to sell it then breed away if you grow photo's and auto's already what are you gonna lose

yee lol , really learned that stuff from the punnet square in science in high school/middle school. I've thought about breeding before but i have a stable genetic right now so i haven't bothered with it. Every time i think about doing some crosses i realize that you need to make a serious commitment until you get the desired traits stabilized..

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racerboy71 said:

yeah, it's the opposite nizza, auto is recessive, so you'd only have a 1 in 4 chance of the offspring being autos..

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if that even most of the times it wont show first cross or the odds are so low that most people dont have the space or time to find it

Nizza said:

yee lol , really learned that stuff from the punnet square in science in high school/middle school. I've thought about breeding before but i have a stable genetic right now so i haven't bothered with it. Every time i think about doing some crosses i realize that you need to make a serious commitment until you get the desired traits stabilized..

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stable genetics are the place to start breeding if you have limited time or space
cross two sexy fems
then cross two more
then cross those together
and the 4th cycle is the fun part PHENO HUNT!!!!! its like easter for pot heads

thanks for all the info guys. N girls

Nizza said:

if the auto trait is dominant, the offspring would be 75% auto and 25% photo
if the opposite, then vise-versa
after that, you can breed it again to achieve 50% autos or photos, then again to get 100% autos or photos.

There is a special technique of breeding you might want to look into called cubing

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and I will deffinitly look in to cubing

I'm not trying to sell any seeds or anything I just figured it would be a fun thing to try if it turns out to be a male.
I don't care if the seeds auto or regular I was just curious as to what would happen.
if it turns out to be male. I'm deffinitly ganna try to bread and if its a girl. Well shit I couldn't complain haha

Nizza said:

yee lol , really learned that stuff from the punnet square in science in high school/middle school. I've thought about breeding before but i have a stable genetic right now so i haven't bothered with it. Every time i think about doing some crosses i realize that you need to make a serious commitment until you get the desired traits stabilized..

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yeah, i'd love to do some breeding, but i don't really have the room for it.. to get great results, you really do need to grow out a big number of plants to select the best of the lot to use to further the line..

one thing i've asked, the plants i have are fem plants, so i didn't know if that too, might weaken the genetics in the breeding process somehow

then S1 the sexiest from you quadfecta cross and you have a surplus of slightly different sexy bitches to play with in your closet

not really bud fem seeds are just seeds

tekdc911 said:

stable genetics are the place to start breeding if you have limited time or space
cross two sexy fems
then cross two more
then cross those together
and the 4th cycle is the fun part PHENO HUNT!!!!! its like easter for pot heads

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tekdc911 said:

stable genetics are the place to start breeding if you have limited time or space
cross two sexy fems
then cross two more
then cross those together
and the 4th cycle is the fun part PHENO HUNT!!!!! its like easter for pot heads

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sweet man thanks for the info that's a good thing to know too I need to do some reading on the breading section. But this first one will just be for fun

yeah word, i just thought they might just be a BIT more unstable or something
just me being over analytical i guess !

i've been thinking about going back to hempy style plants!

tekdc911 said:

not really bud fem seeds are just seeds

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i completely agree.. i see people all the time saying, oh, fems weaken the gene pool, which to me is complete rubish..
i'd think, but i'm not 100% sure on this, maybe one of you can help me out, if you use a fem'ed seed in a cross, you'll have less pheno's in the offspring since the fem, if it's an s1, will only have half of the dna that a normal, regular seed with a mom and a dad both would have? am i over simplifying this?

just CS a plant and let it S1 and then grow some out it will open your eyes to the mis information that has been spewd about fems being hermis or less potent blah blah yadda yadda
if it was a bad thing to cross a plant with itself then nature wouldnt use it as a last ditch effort to make seeds

no your right on point there racer
if you cross a cut with the same mother you further stabilize its genes

eventually you will loose hybrid vigor and will need to cross it
this is just my opinion like anything else you need some new genes every now and then