Covid vaccine not so safe? Video of nurse passing out.

DIY-HP-LED

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COVID-19 is linked to new diabetes cases—but long-term problems could be more severe
In addition to driving new cases of diabetes, the virus may be directly damaging the pancreas in ways that could lead to chronic inflammation and even cancer.
 

Lockedin

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COVID-19 is linked to new diabetes cases—but long-term problems could be more severe
In addition to driving new cases of diabetes, the virus may be directly damaging the pancreas in ways that could lead to chronic inflammation and even cancer.
More reasons to eat right and exercise daily. Diabetes is one of the number one killers in the U.S.
People blame everything - food supply, advertising, their career - now Covid --- but rarely themselves.


I got my first jab a few days ago - here's why I waited:
1. Full FDA approval.
--- I still think they rushed the approval, but (and this is NOT sound reasoning) while I was in Navy boot camp, we went to war with Iraq for the first time. Our CC brought us in, read names and ships, then sent us to get vaxxed. IIRC - 29 shots that day; including the Anthrax vax - which left a 1cm black crater in my shoulder for about 15 years. I figured that more than a few of those shots weren't approved for public consumption, and the C-19 couldn't be as bad as the Anthrax vaccine
--- like I said, not the best reasoning, and a glimpse into why I don't trust people who say, "I'm with the government, I'm here to help."

2. Season.
--- I live in SoCal. Covid season is the same as the flu season here - fall to winter. I want my vaccine to be at its highest effectiveness at the same time as Covid is in its highest destructiveness.
--- I plan to make the same evaluation next year as Covid season comes around - this isn't going away - ever. Too much profit to be made...

3. I had "Long" Covid in 2020 - before any vax was available.
IME, it's more of an "echo" virus:
--- The first wave, I had trouble climbing my staircase. I had to stop and hold on to the bannister to catch my breath for a minute. I was surfing 10ft. waves earlier that same month, for comparison.
--- The second wave came before I'd really recovered from the first. I became concerned that I'd damaged my heart somehow or worse. So I cashed in some favors with medical friends and got a full work-up. They never pinned down what I had, severe bronchitis was the closest they could come.
--- The third and fourth waves were less severe, and I did eventually recover; but I can tell you that recovery for me has required conscious effort and intentionality on my part - eating right and being active.
--- An esthetician friend's shop received C-19 testing kits, including antibody tests - I have antibodies / natural immunity.

3a. Antibodies don't last forever natural or synthetic - though my body will react better than someone who hasn't had C-19 since I've had previous exposure.
--- They aren't sure how long antibodies last - natural or otherwise. So the vax made sense.

4. Future
What truly concerns me is the "misinformation" crowd. If they were around in 1949, we would all be smoking cigarettes since everyone knows that cigarettes are good for you!
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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But the outcomes rating better each day and each new day it's "the lowest mortality rate" ever.

When you hear some scientist stating this or that mutation is more "danger", they never mean the fatality... but the SPREAD.
World-wide we're on the peak of the 3rd wave... just at the moment peaking again "highest active cases counts" maybe topping them this time.

But the daily death cases world-wide is lowering and might go down under 5k, lowest daily-death count ever.

So WHY you claim it is getting more danger, while obviously the exact opposite is happening. Stop spreading false information.

Stop forcing people into vaccination risks, that are NOT at high risk with Covid, like fucking chilren. If you fear it that much, get an the vaccination and stfu... you dont need to convice others to take medicines! It's THEIR OWN CHOICE
you're just as fucking ignorant in this thread as all the others...what a moron
FUCK THEIR OWN CHOICE...their own choice overlaps the choices of everyone they come in contact with....those people get no fucking choice...so if you don't want the vaccine, you fucking cowardly shit, then stay in your house away from people and order in until the whole thing is over
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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If the news you read wasn't censored you would know that the Delta variant is hitting mostly vaccinated people . 90% in Israel are vaccinated and their new cases are though the roof. Meanwhile Sweden, Norway and Denmark lifted all restrictions..
i read news from at least 6 different sites every day, al jazeera, the associated press, reuters, the bbc, the wall street journal, and Pew research..you gonna tell me all of those are censored?....you're so full of shit you draw flies from upwind
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It alters the DNA to produce spike proteins as apposed to attenuated virus's in traditional vaccines which stimulate an immune response. This is widely known.
so is the "fact" that there's a man in the moon....

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines/fact-check-controversial-mit-study-does-not-show-that-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna-idUSL1N2PK1DC

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapy

https://www.unicef.org/montenegro/en/stories/covid-19-vaccine-does-not-change-human-dna

https://www.bbc.com/news/54893437

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w


so...you're wrong, and it is NOT known...widely or otherwise...it's thought by the ignorant who do not bother to enlighten themselves outside of what their controllers tell them...think for yourself, sheep
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Does it concern anybody that Moderna has never made a pharmaceutical medication, much less a vax ever?... like, this is literally thier first attempt at making anything. The Polio vax took from 1932 to 1963 to perfect. During that timeframe, 1000's of children developed deformities, birth defects, seizures , and death...They were "lab rats"...It's kinda like Orville and Wilber Wright saying "Yeah, this is our prototype..go fly it!, you'll be fine!"
from Wikipedia....

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waterproof808

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Does it concern anybody that Moderna has never made a pharmaceutical medication, much less a vax ever?... like, this is literally thier first attempt at making anything. The Polio vax took from 1932 to 1963 to perfect. During that timeframe, 1000's of children developed deformities, birth defects, seizures , and death...They were "lab rats"...It's kinda like Orville and Wilber Wright saying "Yeah, this is our prototype..go fly it!, you'll be fine!"
from Wikipedia....

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Every new vaccine started like that. Every pharmaceutical company had to introduce their first product to the market.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Does it concern anybody that Moderna has never made a pharmaceutical medication, much less a vax ever?... like, this is literally thier first attempt at making anything. The Polio vax took from 1932 to 1963 to perfect. During that timeframe, 1000's of children developed deformities, birth defects, seizures , and death...They were "lab rats"...It's kinda like Orville and Wilber Wright saying "Yeah, this is our prototype..go fly it!, you'll be fine!"
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no, it only concerns you, apparently...
it also doesn't concern me that there are tracking chips in the vaccine, or that there is graphene in the vaccine, or that the vaccine will make you magnetic, sterile, blind, make your balls swell, make your dick shrink, or make you impotent...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Does it concern anybody that Moderna has never made a pharmaceutical medication, much less a vax ever?... like, this is literally thier first attempt at making anything. The Polio vax took from 1932 to 1963 to perfect. During that timeframe, 1000's of children developed deformities, birth defects, seizures , and death...They were "lab rats"...It's kinda like Orville and Wilber Wright saying "Yeah, this is our prototype..go fly it!, you'll be fine!"
from Wikipedia....

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Why do you want to kill republicans? They are the only ones swallowing that horseshit these days.

Moderna contains a lot more active ingredient than the Pfizer and can cause temporary heart inflammation, in mostly healthy young men with good immune systems, caused by the number of spike proteins it causes to be produced. They recently switched to Pfizer in Scandinavian countries for this reason. For older people the moderna mRNA vaccine is preferred and offers better protection. The vaccines have been approved by the FDA using standard methods. Remember as far as you are concerned, they are Trump vaccines and he is perfect in every way... :lol: You voted for him, twice and there was a reason for that.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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no, it only concerns you, apparently...
it also doesn't concern me that there are tracking chips in the vaccine, or that there is graphene in the vaccine, or that the vaccine will make you magnetic, sterile, blind, make your balls swell, make your dick shrink, or make you impotent...
Id rather have Covid.... already had it once, wasn't that bad. Got a few days off from feeding plants.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Why do you want to kill republicans? They are the only ones swallowing that horseshit these days.

Moderna contains a lot more active ingredient than the Pfizer and can cause temporary heart inflammation, in mostly healthy young men with good immune systems, caused by the number of spike proteins it causes to be produced. They recently switched to Pfizer in Scandinavian countries for this reason. For older people the moderna mRNA vaccine is preferred and offers better protection. The vaccines have been approved by the FDA using standard methods. Remember as far as you are concerned, they are Trump vaccines and he is perfect in every way... :lol: You voted for him, twice and there was a reason for that.
Dang!... 2024 can't get here fast enough.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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DoubleAtotheRON

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More reasons to eat right and exercise daily. Diabetes is one of the number one killers in the U.S.
People blame everything - food supply, advertising, their career - now Covid --- but rarely themselves.


I got my first jab a few days ago - here's why I waited:
1. Full FDA approval.
--- I still think they rushed the approval, but (and this is NOT sound reasoning) while I was in Navy boot camp, we went to war with Iraq for the first time. Our CC brought us in, read names and ships, then sent us to get vaxxed. IIRC - 29 shots that day; including the Anthrax vax - which left a 1cm black crater in my shoulder for about 15 years. I figured that more than a few of those shots weren't approved for public consumption, and the C-19 couldn't be as bad as the Anthrax vaccine
--- like I said, not the best reasoning, and a glimpse into why I don't trust people who say, "I'm with the government, I'm here to help."

2. Season.
--- I live in SoCal. Covid season is the same as the flu season here - fall to winter. I want my vaccine to be at its highest effectiveness at the same time as Covid is in its highest destructiveness.
--- I plan to make the same evaluation next year as Covid season comes around - this isn't going away - ever. Too much profit to be made...

3. I had "Long" Covid in 2020 - before any vax was available.
IME, it's more of an "echo" virus:
--- The first wave, I had trouble climbing my staircase. I had to stop and hold on to the bannister to catch my breath for a minute. I was surfing 10ft. waves earlier that same month, for comparison.
--- The second wave came before I'd really recovered from the first. I became concerned that I'd damaged my heart somehow or worse. So I cashed in some favors with medical friends and got a full work-up. They never pinned down what I had, severe bronchitis was the closest they could come.
--- The third and fourth waves were less severe, and I did eventually recover; but I can tell you that recovery for me has required conscious effort and intentionality on my part - eating right and being active.
--- An esthetician friend's shop received C-19 testing kits, including antibody tests - I have antibodies / natural immunity.

3a. Antibodies don't last forever natural or synthetic - though my body will react better than someone who hasn't had C-19 since I've had previous exposure.
--- They aren't sure how long antibodies last - natural or otherwise. So the vax made sense.

4. Future
What truly concerns me is the "misinformation" crowd. If they were around in 1949, we would all be smoking cigarettes since everyone knows that cigarettes are good for you!
This is a perfect example of how the Gov, Big tobacco, and Big Pharma work together. They are all in cahoots with each other to make money. Look at Phyzers stock... follow the money.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Easy man... Im not a fanboy of any Political Party. I do believe you should have the right to decide if you want a Flu shot or a Covid shot. Now, they are mandating Flu shots or get fired. This is not right. The unvaxxed, post Covid.. are protected 27x's more than any Vax on the market. These are facts. Not a fan of big Pharma, just my opinion. You SHOULD have a right to say what goes in your body. ... not the Government.
Employers have rights too, as well as the other employees and so do their customers. The vaxx or the axe is just and constitutional, your rights end where someone else's nose begins, plus 6 feet. You don't have a right to kill and sicken other people, that's not a right, that's irresponsible. You seem to forget that rights come with responsibilities, or does individual responsibility only apply to black people?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Easy man... Im not a fanboy of any Political Party. I do believe you should have the right to decide if you want a Flu shot or a Covid shot. Now, they are mandating Flu shots or get fired. This is not right. The unvaxxed, post Covid.. are protected 27x's more than any Vax on the market. These are facts. Not a fan of big Pharma, just my opinion. You SHOULD have a right to say what goes in your body. ... not the Government.
that's wrong...and that's not my opinion...
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-immunity-through-infection-or-vaccination-are-they-equal-n1280962

https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30919-natural-infection-versus-vaccination-differences-in-covid-antibody-responses-emerge/

at best, you get about the same protection from having had covid as you do from getting vaccinated...if you get any protection at all, at least 33% do not develop any antibodies at all from infection...AND...you have to GET COVID to get that maybe/maybe not protection...and maybe/maybe not die...and maybe/maybe not act as a breeder for new strains, and maybe/maybe not infect someone around you at risk....at what point does personal choice give way to the public good?
 
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