Blue cheese auto day 70 not flowered

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Queenofdaweed

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Hi everyone. Im new to this forum, please bare with me.

Can anyone help me I currently have on blue cheese auto, from Barneys farm. I am currently on week 10, day 70 and no sign of flowering. Nopistles showing or even sacks. They are growing in soil under 600w ledlights. It looks great, healthy and quite bushy and dense but not flowering. Should I pull it and start again or let it continue growing?

I put on blue amnesia xxl auto at the same time. That's already 3 weeksinto flowering, and doing great. I don't know what's happening with the blue cheese, if i got dud seeds or if they'rephotos. Ive changed the light cycle from 18/6 to 12/12 and still nothing.Is this usual for autos. I'm a newbie to growing and this is only the secondtime doing this. Any help and advice will be appreciated. Thanks inadvance.
 
MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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Queenofdaweed said:
Hi everyone. Im new to this forum, please bare with me.

Can anyone help me I currently have on blue cheese auto, from Barneys farm. I am currently on week 10, day 70 and no sign of flowering. Nopistles showing or even sacks. They are growing in soil under 600w ledlights. It looks great, healthy and quite bushy and dense but not flowering. Should I pull it and start again or let it continue growing?

I put on blue amnesia xxl auto at the same time. That's already 3 weeksinto flowering, and doing great. I don't know what's happening with the blue cheese, if i got dud seeds or if they'rephotos. Ive changed the light cycle from 18/6 to 12/12 and still nothing.Is this usual for autos. I'm a newbie to growing and this is only the secondtime doing this. Any help and advice will be appreciated. Thanks inadvance.
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Barneys has a very bad hermie rep so might bot be fully bread auto trait. Its probably a photo.
 
TurboTokes

TurboTokes

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I would imagine your using a very cheap "600w" led light and the plant just isnt thriving.

If that picture is of a 70 day old plant from seed there is a growth issue, in 70 days you can have a bush on your hands, yours looks to have very few nodes and overall low growth
 
Logan Burke

Logan Burke

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That must be a photoperiod. If it were an auto, you'd have something by now...sorry bud. Keep it on 12/12 and flower her out like a normal plant. I just had two regular mystery photo's come up in a batch of auto seeds...so I feel your pain, haha.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Sometimes AUTOS need to be forced flowered ... Barney’s was breeder that I had some issues with ironically... blue cheese. Which was one .... I had to FORCE from a 5 pack.

It STALLED at week 5 ( which most autos start average ) then I know sum ting not right .
Where it could be a wonky cross or maybe photo seed .... it will take about 10 days or so to trick the little shit into flower / sexing ... but don’t be surprised if it stalls again or something.

Or it just needed that kick in the ass to finish.

Keep it under 12/12 ... just water until it does something or not.
It has plenty of green stored , you can ( if you want ) , give it a high PK feed to push it .
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Autos have that “ third “ wheel aspect thrown into gene pool that sometimes doesn’t play along.
Ruderalis ..... So another set of TRAITS come into pay ... even though the short life trait was the primary reason to add it.


Autos CAN :

Be 100% autoflowering
Be males or females
Have mutations
Have irregular growth
Different pheno traits ( OTHER THAN WHAT IS ADVERTISED)
( meaning grows short or lanky or some other shit )
Daddy traits dominant
Momma traits dominat
Herm blend
Picky eaters
Stalls at flower
Runts out

They are what they are ... I actually grow primarily autos ... by choice since I make Auto fem seeds.
I SELF a good growing female ( after it threw sex and pistil show ) , blast a branch or two to make lady nuts and dust a branch of the host female.

Some hate them , some overthink them. They are the simplest to grow regardless of what you have heard.

Autos will yield differently in assorted mediums ....

Soil is the standard way , but hydro / soilless/ hempy / AirPots / coco / dwc / are the choices for LARGER AUTOS. These methods allow a faster and bigger root mass to form , thus taking as much advantage of its severe limited veg stage. Cuz if it doesn’t do well in veg it will not magically make a good yield . The old saying “ Once you pop them , you CAN’T stop them “ comes into play.

Example ( currently ) Barney’s Blue Dream Auto ———

Shit looking runt .... mutations ..... strange one sided growth ... slow growth


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AND SUGAR HIGH ..... which shows how it should be ...

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I no longer use Barney’s and this the last I will waste time with ... and have went to HSO instead.

Believe it or not THAT BD IS “ OLDER “ than the Sugar High ....
 
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MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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Budzbuddha said:
Autos have that “ third “ wheel aspect thrown into gene pool that sometimes doesn’t play along.
Ruderalis ..... So another set of TRAITS come into pay ... even though the short life trait was the primary reason to add it.


Autos CAN :

Be 100% autoflowering
Be males or females
Have mutations
Have irregular growth
Different pheno traits ( OTHER THAN WHAT IS ADVERTISED)
( meaning grows short or lanky or some other shit )
Daddy traits dominant
Momma traits dominat
Herm blend
Picky eaters
Stalls at flower
Runts out

They are what they are ... I actually grow primarily autos ... by choice since I make Auto fem seeds.
I SELF a good growing female ( after it threw sex and pistil show ) , blast a branch or two to make lady nuts and dust a branch of the host female.

Some hate them , some overthink them. They are the simplest to grow regardless of what you have heard.

Autos will yield differently in assorted mediums ....

Soil is the standard way , but hydro / soilless/ hempy / AirPots / coco / dwc / are the choices for LARGER AUTOS. These methods allow a faster and bigger root mass to form , thus taking as much advantage of its severe limited veg stage. Cuz if it doesn’t do well in veg it will not magically make a good yield . The old saying “ Once you pop them , you CAN’T stop them “ comes into play.

Example ( currently ) Barney’s Blue Dream Auto ———

Shit looking runt .... mutations ..... strange one sided growth ... slow growth


View attachment 4195932

AND SUGAR HIGH ..... which shows how it should be ...

View attachment 4195934

I no longer use Barney’s and this the last I will waste time with ... and have went to HSO instead.

Believe it or not THAT BD IS “ YOUNGER “ than the Sugar High ....
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I always heard shit about Barneys. For Photo i loved HSO.
 
MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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Budzbuddha said:
Breeder quality varies .... even “ better “ ones can have bad stock.
Cali connection is another one I hate.

But for the OP - see if a week or so of 12/12 will do anything ...
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Ha. I always hear or see people saying they got "Swerved". Guess most of his stuff turns out bunk. I've seen some hits though on them.
 
MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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I'll say this, my first Mephisto grow was Ripley's OG and they were crazy and rhey bread with Cali Connections Alien OG.10 of 10 would grow again which i still have 3 of my 5 i bought.
 
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Queenofdaweed

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Budzbuddha said:
Autos have that “ third “ wheel aspect thrown into gene pool that sometimes doesn’t play along.
Ruderalis ..... So another set of TRAITS come into pay ... even though the short life trait was the primary reason to add it.


Autos CAN :

Be 100% autoflowering
Be males or females
Have mutations
Have irregular growth
Different pheno traits ( OTHER THAN WHAT IS ADVERTISED)
( meaning grows short or lanky or some other shit )
Daddy traits dominant
Momma traits dominat
Herm blend
Picky eaters
Stalls at flower
Runts out

They are what they are ... I actually grow primarily autos ... by choice since I make Auto fem seeds.
I SELF a good growing female ( after it threw sex and pistil show ) , blast a branch or two to make lady nuts and dust a branch of the host female.

Some hate them , some overthink them. They are the simplest to grow regardless of what you have heard.

Autos will yield differently in assorted mediums ....

Soil is the standard way , but hydro / soilless/ hempy / AirPots / coco / dwc / are the choices for LARGER AUTOS. These methods allow a faster and bigger root mass to form , thus taking as much advantage of its severe limited veg stage. Cuz if it doesn’t do well in veg it will not magically make a good yield . The old saying “ Once you pop them , you CAN’T stop them “ comes into play.

Example ( currently ) Barney’s Blue Dream Auto ———

Shit looking runt .... mutations ..... strange one sided growth ... slow growth


View attachment 4195932

AND SUGAR HIGH ..... which shows how it should be ...

View attachment 4195934

I no longer use Barney’s and this the last I will waste time with ... and have went to HSO instead.

Believe it or not THAT BD IS “ OLDER “ than the Sugar High ....
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Thank you for your response. You just hit the nail on the head, it did stall at week 5. Growth was slow. However since switching to 12/12 it has put on an explosive growth and weight that I've had to do some LST, open up canapy some more.bend stalks down. Still no sign of sex at day 76. Decided just gonna leave it well at least until it shows its sex. If it turns out to be a male or hermi I'll pull it..I did start giving it bloom feed and pk13/14 in last weeks feeding scheduleto see that will help to force it into flower.
Will NEVER get Barney seeds again.

Your Sugar High looks healthy and BD looks a bit limp lol sorry
 
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Queenofdaweed

Member
Hi all

Can finally report that the blue cheese has finally started flowering. Yea! Was reading about super autos and they take slightly longer than normal autos to flower, don't know if this was a super auto or photo but its flowering, it only took 77 days but better lare than never. ITS A GIRL!

Thanks all for your comments and advice
 
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JacksonJ

Well-Known Member
TurboTokes said:
I would imagine your using a very cheap "600w" led light and the plant just isnt thriving.

If that picture is of a 70 day old plant from seed there is a growth issue, in 70 days you can have a bush on your hands, yours looks to have very few nodes and overall low growth
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Have you ever used a "very cheap LED"?
 
3B ID

3B ID

Member
Budzbuddha said:
Autos have that “ third “ wheel aspect thrown into gene pool that sometimes doesn’t play along.
Ruderalis ..... So another set of TRAITS come into pay ... even though the short life trait was the primary reason to add it.


Autos CAN :

Be 100% autoflowering
Be males or females
Have mutations
Have irregular growth
Different pheno traits ( OTHER THAN WHAT IS ADVERTISED)
( meaning grows short or lanky or some other shit )
Daddy traits dominant
Momma traits dominat
Herm blend
Picky eaters
Stalls at flower
Runts out

They are what they are ... I actually grow primarily autos ... by choice since I make Auto fem seeds.
I SELF a good growing female ( after it threw sex and pistil show ) , blast a branch or two to make lady nuts and dust a branch of the host female.

Some hate them , some overthink them. They are the simplest to grow regardless of what you have heard.

Autos will yield differently in assorted mediums ....

Soil is the standard way , but hydro / soilless/ hempy / AirPots / coco / dwc / are the choices for LARGER AUTOS. These methods allow a faster and bigger root mass to form , thus taking as much advantage of its severe limited veg stage. Cuz if it doesn’t do well in veg it will not magically make a good yield . The old saying “ Once you pop them , you CAN’T stop them “ comes into play.

Example ( currently ) Barney’s Blue Dream Auto ———

Shit looking runt .... mutations ..... strange one sided growth ... slow growth


View attachment 4195932

AND SUGAR HIGH ..... which shows how it should be ...

View attachment 4195934

I no longer use Barney’s and this the last I will waste time with ... and have went to HSO instead.

Believe it or not THAT BD IS “ OLDER “ than the Sugar High ....
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how about outdoors for these autos....looking at next year already.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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3B ID said:
how about outdoors for these autos....looking at next year already.
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Autos are run in the outdoors ...

I’m an indoor guy but there are growers here that have experience in that .

Figure sativa dom should do the trick.
 
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