New Age United
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I don't think anyone I've ever come across on this site has ever described anything to do with growing pot as "difficult". But you could certainly write an encyclopedia on everything you need to know.
Anyone clone with peat?
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New Age United
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I can't give you a like, but I wish there was a laugh reaction lol!!!Yes, I could.
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DuBR
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I am new to this form yes. And by what I read I am so far past your abilities that I actually am going to probably quit this form.
At least we have the ignore button!
Another know-it-all newbie making friends....
Am I the one asking question or answering them? You are the newbie.
My Outs are better than 75% of Indoor
I don’t need friends.
DuBR
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My outs go as indoor mids if that’s what you mean. Lol
hotrodharley
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You’re as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.
New Age United
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Clones have taken root all but one
Ya one just withered and died
Ya one just withered and died
New Age United
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So the clones first showed roots 2 days ago, how long before I should transplant and put them under the 600w?
@hotrodharley @Herb & Suds
@hotrodharley @Herb & Suds
hotrodharley
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I put mine under HID immediately but at a distance and in diffused light. Meaning catching light through a vegging plant. If I see them start to stretch I raise them more. In a week or so they’ve toughened up enough to fly solo.
New Age United
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Just like that I have 6 healthy plants, there was lots of nice white roots. Thanks for the help everybody.
BobCajun
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First you need a humidity dome, or a sheet of clear plastic over the top of a container like I use. Don't use rooting powder because it will dry out the tip, use gel instead, powder is for rooting trees mainly. Finally, you don't start them in peat, you use perlite. Peat is too wet and not enough air can get in so the tips tend to rot before rooting. You need perlite in little seedling starting pots, those kind that come in a sheet and look kind of like black egg cartons work fine, sitting in a 1/4" or so of water. You only keep them in there for about a week until roots just start growing out of the stems, then you take them out of the perlite and put them in wetted peat pellets.
That's the trick right there, not rooting in the peat pellets but only putting them in those once roots have poked out of the stems. The pellets are good because they hold the stems securely and prevent toppling over because they are bigger than the stems, which will just flop the hell over in pots of perlite mix, which is the only medium worth using, actually just reused perlite with old root bits in it for moisture retention, no peat or coco whatsoever, perlite/weed root mix is premium.
A couple last tips are that if one wilts in the dome it means the stem tip got a bubble in it, dried the hell out, whatever you want to call it. Bottom line, you need to make a new cut like an 1/8th" up from the first one. Also fluoridated water is bad for cuttings but deionized water will reduce rooting success so use deionized with a small amount of nutes in it, like 1/4 strength. Any water will probably work, just not optimally. Also when they just get rooted I gradually move the plastic off the container day by day, not just expose them to open air right away or they'll wilt. BTW, for lighting I use 1 60w replacement LED "lightbulb", it's the perfect intensity for the average size rooting container.
That's the trick right there, not rooting in the peat pellets but only putting them in those once roots have poked out of the stems. The pellets are good because they hold the stems securely and prevent toppling over because they are bigger than the stems, which will just flop the hell over in pots of perlite mix, which is the only medium worth using, actually just reused perlite with old root bits in it for moisture retention, no peat or coco whatsoever, perlite/weed root mix is premium.
A couple last tips are that if one wilts in the dome it means the stem tip got a bubble in it, dried the hell out, whatever you want to call it. Bottom line, you need to make a new cut like an 1/8th" up from the first one. Also fluoridated water is bad for cuttings but deionized water will reduce rooting success so use deionized with a small amount of nutes in it, like 1/4 strength. Any water will probably work, just not optimally. Also when they just get rooted I gradually move the plastic off the container day by day, not just expose them to open air right away or they'll wilt. BTW, for lighting I use 1 60w replacement LED "lightbulb", it's the perfect intensity for the average size rooting container.
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New Age United
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Is there any reason why these clones are taking so long to root, its day 15 and still no sign off roots, they are yellowing, they were taken off of 2 very strong clones, so they're clones from a clone. I did everything the same as last time except I took the cuttings outback and then brought them inside powdered them and put them into dry soil and watered, last time I pre soaked the peat, they might have been cut 10 minutes at the most before they were planted. Did I fuck up or are 2nd generation clones just harder to take? @hotrodharley @Herb & Suds
The one in the back just shriveled and died but it looks like theres still lots of life in the other 6
The one in the back just shriveled and died but it looks like theres still lots of life in the other 6
Rob Roy
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I think they'll probably root.
I don't like much time to pass from the time I cut the clone from the mother and apply clone gel or powder and pop them in the dirt.
If you're cutting several clones next time, consider using a cup of clean water to keep your just cut clones in for the time it takes you to prepare and put each one in their respective cup. Might help prevent air infection in the cut. I also like to cut them from the branches with several lower leaf nodes on them. That gives you the bottom cut and the leaf nodes, which are stripped of vegetation and buried in the dirt, to grow roots from. Congrats on your successful cloning!
You'll see roots shortly.See how the top leaves are starting to point upwards?Mostly the back left one?That tells me they have roots.I think they have knubs/roots already.
And when you take your cuts don't fuck around letting them hang out.Cut them and stick'em into a cup of water right away to keep any air getting into the stem.
And when you take your cuts don't fuck around letting them hang out.Cut them and stick'em into a cup of water right away to keep any air getting into the stem.
New Age United
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Ok thanks guys
70's natureboy
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I would cut those yellow leaves off. The clones are wasting energy trying to keep those old leaves alive. I only leave 2 green leaves at the top.
eatled
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Do you know for a fact Sunshine is pH neutral?
I am going to send some to a lab this week to be tested and the lab will tell me how much limestone is needed to neutralize the pH.
By Sunshine, so we are talking the same thing, being the peat shown below which can be purchased at Home Depot?
https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-cu-ft-Peat-Moss-3001-CFC003P/205883917
eatled
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Pure peat is not good. It retains too much moisture.
It needs to be mixed 50% with perlite, vermiculite, and or coarse sand.
You also need to pH balance the media by adding limestone.
Source: Penn State University, Kathleen M. Kelley, assistant professor of consumer horticulture, James C. Sellmer, associate professor of ornamental horticulture and Phyllis Lamont, former consumer horticulture center library coordinator
LINK: https://extension.psu.edu/homemade-potting-media
I'm sending some homemade media samples to a lab. I'll get back to you with the results.
I will be mixing up some test beds. I have this on order. It will arrive on Friday.
