A hermie tale

darkbud

Active Member
Made 4 clones from the same plant. Two of which I flowered outdoors where temperatures get easily to 33 celcius and more. The pot it self gets hot. This 2 plants turned hermies.

The other two I flowered indoors in less umidity and less heat. None of them turned hermie.

The End
 

farmingfisherman

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Made 4 clones from the same plant. Two of which I flowered outdoors where temperatures get easily to 33 celcius and more. The pot it self gets hot. This 2 plants turned hermies.

The other two I flowered indoors in less umidity and less heat. None of them turned hermie.

The End
When its hot out I did this and it worked like a charm. Coffee bags stuffed with straw.

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xtsho

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I had plants outside in small pots when we had record breaking heat of 116°F here in Portland. Not a single plant hermied. I just put them in the shade and made sure they were watered. I didn't bother taking the soil temperature but it was definitely hot. In fact we had several days of record breaking heat and it was a hot as hell summer. Every plant flowered just fine.

The end
 

darkbud

Active Member
I had plants outside in small pots when we had record breaking heat of 116°F here in Portland. Not a single plant hermied. I just put them in the shade and made sure they were watered. I didn't bother taking the soil temperature but it was definitely hot. In fact we had several days of record breaking heat and it was a hot as hell summer. Every plant flowered just fine.

The end
Probably didnt have the hermie genes.
 

darkbud

Active Member
Please explain how two out of four clones from the same plant had hermie genes and the other two didn't.
Doesn't make sense.
I call BS.
That is not what I meant. I mean the 4 had the genes. But only the stressed ones turned hermies. Thats a hypothesis. If you dont agree ok. Have a nice day.
 

Wizzlebiz

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I had plants outside in small pots when we had record breaking heat of 116°F here in Portland. Not a single plant hermied. I just put them in the shade and made sure they were watered. I didn't bother taking the soil temperature but it was definitely hot. In fact we had several days of record breaking heat and it was a hot as hell summer. Every plant flowered just fine.

The end
Last year we had 2 2 week stretches of over 112 degrees.

No hermies in my yard.
 

darkbud

Active Member
Last year we had 2 2 week stretches of over 112 degrees.

No hermies in my yard.
Probably because your plants didnt have the hermie genes. Once it has the genes, I believe heat is one of the things that might trigger it in my modest opinion.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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Please explain how two out of four clones from the same plant had hermie genes and the other two didn't.
Doesn't make sense.
I call BS.
This indicates that all his plants carried the propensity to herm, but only the stressed plants exhibited it. From what I understand this is the essence of "stress testing" to see what traits a plant will show, prior to releasing seeds or cuts.
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
Incredible how people are arrogant in the internet.
It's not just the internet. Have you been out in public lately?

No need to make a big deal out of things. You had 4 plants with 2 each grown in different environmental conditions. 2 hermied. You say it was from heat stress. Yes stress can cause plants to hermie. Heat can be a stress. But 33°C is really not that hot for outdoor grown plants. You were given 2 examples of plants outdoors in much more extreme temperatures at 44°C and 46°C. Some with weeks of those kinds of temperatures. And yes some strains are more prone to hermaphroditism than others. Thai strains for instance are known for it. Why don't you tell us what strain it was?

You made a conclusion that it was the heat that caused it when in fact it could have been a combination of factors and heat may or may not have had anything to do with it. I know for a fact that hundreds of thousands of cannabis plants of all different strains are grown outside in California and Southern Oregon with temperatures of at least 33°C that last for weeks or months. Some of those plants do hermie but the same things happens indoors under climate controlled conditions.

Just because it was hot 33°C / 91°F does not mean that was the cause. Maybe it was enough stress maybe it was something else. It definitely isn't a certainty and the way you tossed in "The End" as if hot climates cause hermies is just your opinion. Instead of the "The End" a more appropriate thing to do would have been to ask a question like "Do you think it was heat related?". Then you would have started a discussion. Instead you implied that 33°C temperatures will cause hermies when in fact that's not the case.

As for the hermie "Gene". Every cannabis strain has the possibility given the correct stressor to exhibit this trait. And some just do it no matter how perfect the environment is. I've grown plenty of landraces from seed to have witnessed this first hand.

It's a very interesting topic. I'd rather discuss it than argue about it.
 

darkbud

Active Member
This indicates that all his plants carried the propensity to herm, but only the stressed plants exhibited it. From what I understand this is the essence of "stress testing" to see what traits a plant will show, prior to releasing seeds or cuts.
Thank you!
 

darkbud

Active Member
It's not just the internet. Have you been out in public lately?

No need to make a big deal out of things. You had 4 plants with 2 each grown in different environmental conditions. 2 hermied. You say it was from heat stress. Yes stress can cause plants to hermie. Heat can be a stress. But 33°C is really not that hot for outdoor grown plants. You were given 2 examples of plants outdoors in much more extreme temperatures at 44°C and 46°C. Some with weeks of those kinds of temperatures. And yes some strains are more prone to hermaphroditism than others. Thai strains for instance are known for it. Why don't you tell us what strain it was?

You made a conclusion that it was the heat that caused it when in fact it could have been a combination of factors and heat may or may not have had anything to do with it. I know for a fact that hundreds of thousands of cannabis plants of all different strains are grown outside in California and Southern Oregon with temperatures of at least 33°C that last for weeks or months. Some of those plants do hermie but the same things happens indoors under climate controlled conditions.

Just because it was hot 33°C / 91°F does not mean that was the cause. Maybe it was enough stress maybe it was something else. It definitely isn't a certainty and the way you tossed in "The End" as if hot climates cause hermies is just your opinion. Instead of the "The End" a more appropriate thing to do would have been to ask a question like "Do you think it was heat related?". Then you would have started a discussion. Instead you implied that 33°C temperatures will cause hermies when in fact that's not the case.

As for the hermie "Gene". Every cannabis strain has the possibility given the correct stressor to exhibit this trait. And some just do it no matter how perfect the environment is. I've grown plenty of landraces from seed to have witnessed this first hand.

It's a very interesting topic. I'd rather discuss it than argue about it.
It is a 24k.
I was trying to be funny with "The End". Not saying I am 100% sure what happened.
 
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