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I didn't come here for information, I came here to help rookies like you who still fear Spidermites to avoid these terrible lights.

Black dog is a little too pricey for me. For my money the Gavita e1700 is the Gold standard. Only Problem is they don't fold and are back ordered a month or so.

Don't fret, the 420's and 680's are legit. I have several of both, and I am very happy with both which is why I was excited about the 720's. I use the 420 in veg, replacing a 600wMH HID. The 420 far outperforms the 600w HID when the selector is at half power. I have yet to go beyond 50% power...

New people are trying to bring it back, they even welcomed OG's to OG but it just wasn't the same.

lot's of people know their "shit', just don't assume you know mine.

i went with that one because i had ust finsihed reading "Killing Pablo" That's half the reason for my post, I did my due diligence and yet still I got screwed. In all honesty it's baffling to me how many people purchase LED lights but don't own a PAR meter.

I don't know what GC's email said to ERIK, but I assume he was quoting them. His response could have been a little more supportive, but I don't really blame Erik. He's just reiterating what GC tells him, which has been BS. I think he thought I was full of ish' until i sent him both of these...

I use to go by "Pabloescobar9", of course this was 2003 when the only people who had heard of Pablo were the people who had read Mark Bowden's Book..

I did, and I filed a claim, and today they agreed to take them back without a fee or shipping cost. still that leaves me with no lights until i buy new ones, the frame, adjustments to my room, hours i spent putting them up, doing research, the day I took off from work, to receive the shipment...

I bought an e420 and two 680's and they performed beyond expectations, my e420 at 25-50% alone beats the 600mh I used to use by a mile. the 680's performed equally if not better than my 1000hps Hortilux, so why would I think the e720's would perform any less than expected?

ust uploaded a basic comparison video between the ROI680 and the ROI720 measured at 12" from the center....wtf.

well, now I'm speechless just got this email from LGLD who was told by grower's choice..."Grower's Choice was going to have a boost mode on the models, but when they were released, they didnt include it. No one has the boost mode since no E720s include them at this time. They shouldn't have said...

This is what I suspect they did to me, sold me a used return that is.

This was not a simple return, they sent me defective lights directly from GC warehouse. LGLD never handled them, however he is responsible for making sure my issue was resolved. GC refused to ship me new ones so I could switch them out basically saying they were afraid I might steal them. they...

This was just sent to me by "ERIK" from LEDGrowlightDepot.com, this is HIS solution to selling me defective lights, the balls on this guy..

I didn't.I spent weeks doing research Ledgrowlightsdepot utterly useless.

Conratulations.

I disagree completely and I was unaware only experienced growers could read and interpret information, but if that is the criteria then I guess growing since the day I was an overgow.com member should qualify me. I didn't just wake up and purchase these on amazon cause they looked cool.

Major issues right out of the box....low Umol output, and non working "boost" mode on both brand new lights! I bought these through ledgrowlightdepot.com and they have NOT been helpful in helping me resolve this issue more. It's been a week and i have yet to hear from GROWER's CHOICE!