Cogo's Original Cannabis Formula

coco87769

Member
Are you crazy then. Why say it was the seedbanks formula. Nevil was actually doing the ratios by using 3 different powered nutrients.
The formulas used in the Netherlands at the time were 4 parts not 2. a and b grow and a and b bloom and they were water soluble,They were quit different formulas and ratios. i will not go into the chemistry of converting 4 into 2 since you cant read, and if you can you cant comprehend what you are reading, enough said.
 

coco87769

Member
But this is were you an I differ. Do you know what happened when I got raided at a grow with my friend who was out on a life license. Well I said my friend didn't know about it an it was the first time I took him there. To leave him out of it. Otherwise he could have been put back into jail for years even before any charges. The difference is you think its ok to drop someone else in it when you should just be responsible for yourself. Wasnt you supposed to destroy those records. Also to clarify, wasn't it actually you who was sending seeds on usa soil with your own hands. Then on top of that you also took money off nevil (thousands) making out that your were going to use it in a legal defense when infact you didn't need no legal defense cus you were dropping him in it. Then on top of that after thinking its ok to contribute into destroying nevils life you then think its ok to sell nutrients for cannabis to the very cannabis community whose names you so easily handed over before. Stop using an blaming every one else and using silly excuses. Be responsible for your own actions, you'll be respected more for it.
our group does a extensive study of everything we research we are not biased we do not judge we seek the whole truth unlike you. As far as you getting busted for doing something illegal dont you think that when something is as highly illegal as growing marijuana that you would have a better plan than too order seeds and equipment out of high times? as far as your friend " he was out on a life sentence" i thought it was a life sentence?, how do you get out from a life sentence? obviously he didn't learn his lesson. You have to make better choices in life son especially when something is illegal. roll it up.com over grow.com and the rest of the seed selling equipment selling online forums and stores are all monitored and exist for counter intelligence purposes. im sorry that you had problems in your life for doing stupid things. re read what we posted maybe it takes you more than once to see how mixed up you are.
 

Homegrown5257

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im offended by the fact that you cant comprehend whats being written. And that you cannot have a conversation about a case you have no knowledge of what so ever or the history of it. We have the whole case not just a affidavit from cogo. You spent zero time in pursuit of the truth and make a lot of assumptions based on what was available from sources such as Todd McCormick a non profit stool pigeon that only support FDA approved pharma cannabis...and builds his reputation as a cancer survivor that never had cancer in the first place. He was also growing 6000 plant, plea bargain for a 5 (only does 3.9) year) sentence out of mandatory 10 after turning in 2other houses. And ed rosenthal growing 8300 plants and doing 1 day in jail and 3 year probation. We will soon expose the fake "legalization" movement for what it is, a government corporate attempt to modify law enforcement globally and manage black market cannabis. as both Steve Hagar form high times Todd McCormick and Adam Dunn publicly stated "we are trying to eliminate the criminal element"...us. In fact these websites such as roll it up are in fact sites monitoring growers and those that buy seeds. These are all facts from those of us that actually know about the cases we talk about and the subterfuge used by non profits and corporate influence in the market
I think I comprehend just fine what you’ve written the way you wrote it. You wrote in one sentence that cogo did rat and then turned around and insinuated that’s not what got neville in hot water because Neville had ads in HT and such. But you started off by saying people like to throw the words rat and snitch around a lot. If this is not what you meant then maybe you should work on some writing skills instead getting offended at people who read your writing as it’s written. Your saying you know the real truth or all the truth makes one wonder if you weren’t there or perhaps someway involved/connected with all of it. Would there be some chance that you are cogo or a close friend or related maybe? If all those other guys you made reference to are rats as well it would be great if you could get those crayons out and enlighten us all. I don’t want to unknowingly patronize or support a rat in any way shape or fashion. So that would be great if you could show us the proof on those guys as well.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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http://instagr.am/p/CVN_8x5puTV/
I would suggest anyone that wants to get to the truth about coco read about his d-baggery in his own words.

Spoiler alert..."coco" and his "group" aren't the crackerjack gumshoes they portray themselves to be.
coco...you dont mean the doctor do you

wow, so many people have worked hard to take advantage of Neville ...wtf

green merchant alone should get these clowns blac listed but that was 30 yrs ago
 

Homegrown5257

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http://instagr.am/p/CVN_8x5puTV/
I would suggest anyone that wants to get to the truth about coco read about his d-baggery in his own words.

Spoiler alert..."coco" and his "group" aren't the crackerjack gumshoes they portray themselves to be.
Those documents look real to me. I have a stack that look just about like those from a case all the way back in 92, like about a ream of papers worth that have me in them from being snitched on by a sorry pos rat that was trying to save his ass from some other stupid shit he got caught up doing. Growing marijuana here was a pretty sporty proposition back in the 80’s and 90’s. But yea fk all snitches and rats or anyone sympathizing with them they are as low as low can get!
 

VAhomegrown

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What a piece of shit. I just wasted a couple hours reading his boomer rants and deflections. First class bitch lol.

How much information about the players of that time has been acquired through FOIA requests etc? Has there been any digging going on?
 

Rufus T. Firefly

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that is a very nice story you told about yourself, thank you for sharing. i think you may not be comprehending what has been presented to you above. 1. Nevil was working with authority's this was confirmed by Ben dronkers and legal papers 2.The government had all the addresses and that can be proved.3, seed sales from Holland were part of multi government operation to identify users and cultivators in the black market place like what is done here in these forums and with Marc emery. 4. Nevil lived along life and slipped out of everything from 1976 to 1988 unscathed similar to Todd McCormick..5. cocos fertilizer was endorsed by the seed bank and their formula was improved as was others. 5. what community? and do you speak for some kind of community? i have never heard of a collective community. 6. those who ordered seeds from anyone including today take a risk seed and weed is federally illegal whats different about today is you turn in yourself by using your computer to order seeds. using the internet is federal just like coming on roll it up overgrow thc farmer etc?7. no one is blaming anyone else and no one is making excises facts are facts you either except them or not.
Nobody wants you here Ray

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budtoker221

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i see you had my post removed. must really piss you off you just dump thousands down the drain for mediocre results

must be hurting your cogo agenda a bit to have reported a post. evident by my other posts still in the thread

only people ignorant to botany pluck leaves off/ nuke them with completely unnecessary additives.

like bud blood. you know, the one youre still using

PENNIES ON COGO'S DOLLAR


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Wut strain is that???
 

budtoker221

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I like how this is a no BS 2-part that looks like it keeps the minerals to a minimal amount including magnesium and it only uses one edta, (iron) the rest of the micros are sulfates. Is this formula similiar to what the commercial growers in the 90s were using with rockwool?
 

Rufus T. Firefly

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I like how this is a no BS 2-part that looks like it keeps the minerals to a minimal amount including magnesium and it only uses one edta, (iron) the rest of the micros are sulfates. Is this formula similiar to what the commercial growers in the 90s were using with rockwool?
Why would you buy shit from gov't snitch?
 

budtoker221

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Why would you buy shit from gov't snitch?
I know there’s a lot of drama in this thread but I’m not interested in that, I can’t say anything about it since I don’t know anything about the drama and I don’t care to.

From what I can gather this nutrient formula might be similiar to the old Dutch nutrient formulas that they used with rockwool.
from reading the old Seedbank catalogues from the 80s Nevil said they used a nutrient formula that was originally used for indoor hydro pepper growing. I’m trying to learn about the old school styles of drain to waste growing in rockwool and what nutrient formulas have been used successfully for years to produce a high quality finished product.
Do you know of any other nutrient companies that sell hydro nutes that have relatively low amounts of minerals? This seems to be a unique formula.

Edit: what I meant by “relatively low amounts of minerals” I’m referring to how this formula looks like it has moderate/low amounts of magnesium compared to some companies, as well as having low amounts of edta compared to most hydro nutes ive seen and they also offer it without edta.
 
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Rufus T. Firefly

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I know there’s a lot of drama in this thread but I’m not interested in that, I can’t say anything about it since I don’t know anything about the drama and I don’t care to.

From what I can gather this nutrient formula might be similiar to the old Dutch nutrient formulas that they used with rockwool.
from reading the old Seedbank catalogues from the 80s Nevil said they used a nutrient formula that was originally used for indoor hydro pepper growing. I’m trying to learn about the old school styles of drain to waste growing in rockwool and what nutrient formulas have been used successfully for years to produce a high quality finished product.
Do you know of any other nutrient companies that sell hydro nutes that have relatively low amounts of minerals? This seems to be a unique formula.

Edit: what I meant by “relatively low amounts of minerals” I’m referring to how this formula looks like it has moderate/low amounts of magnesium compared to some companies, as well as having low amounts of edta compared to most hydro nutes ive seen and they also offer it without edta.
Maybe you should before you start asking questions that look like a poorly disguised sales pitch.
 

f.r

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Every base fertilizer will have molybdenum in it.

Why are you so adverse to it late in flower? Me personally cutting out N last few weeks works great. In future gonna replace cal nitrate completely last week or two
 

budtoker221

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Every base fertilizer will have molybdenum in it.

Why are you so adverse to it late in flower? Me personally cutting out N last few weeks works great. In future gonna replace cal nitrate completely last week or two
I’m using another base fert that doesn’t have molybdenum it literally just has NPK, calcium and magnesium. The plants actually matured and ripened with a pretty good result without any micros in coco I’m just not sure if it’ll work as well in rockwool without the micros.
The warnings of the effects of soil with too high molybdenum and its effects on ruminant animals is part of the reason I don’t want to use too much during flower but maybe the amounts of molybdenum in hydro nutes is so small that those warnings are irrelevant.
 
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