opinions please!!!
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tikitoker
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Yeah man that Mataro Blue is real nice. Very vigorous and I'm jelious. I am debating removing mine from the led seedling tent and throwing her in the MH room. Hit her with 10000k for 3 weeks then switch to the 6500k for the remainder of veg. At the last 2 weeks of veg I switch to a 4200k going into first 2 weeks of 12/12 and then bust out the 2000k HPS with a couple of 630, 660nm led flower boosters. I'm thinking the 10k might jumpstart her. Eitherway I got 11others to look foward to so 1runt isn't the end the world.
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Soil is the slowest of all growing methods and pure organic growing will slow it down even more. Indicas will be the fastest growing strain. I would think of getting temps no lower then 70 F at any time. looks like your using led lighting too which will also slow the growing time.
lilroach
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I read some official looking report posted on here that says the 4100K spectrum does very little for the plant. I guess plants are somewhat color blind around the 4000k mark. Personally, I like keeping things simple....veg under some T5HO's and give them a mix-spectrum of MH and HPS in flower. I'm not much for a bunch of bulb-changes. It'll be interesting how yours comes out with how you plan to do your lighting....I hope you run a grow journal on this.
tikitoker
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I have a journal started with the runt using the led. The g8 led panel is brand new so the runt is its first plant. But I'm not expecting much from it so yeah , I might start a new one with led & HID.
The 4200k is for the transition of summer sun (6500) to fall sun (2000). Then I will use the 10000k as a finishing bulb durring the ripening phase. The 10000k is also excellent in rooting cuttings, but not really suited for veg. Only use it for 2 weeks untill rooted then the 6500.
tikitoker
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Ok well when I got off work this morning I check the grow room out. I said fuck this dumbass led shit. I ran out to the hydro shop and picked up a sun systems 6' aircooled "low rider" hood and another 600w dimable ballast. 6500k MH
The plant has grown since yesterday, now the side branching is starting to elongate. The FIM I performed on the 19th was unsuccessful. The plant didn't want it. LOL I will show her who's boss and remove her top. Which brings me to my next issue. She looks a tab bit light in color now that she is under a MH HID. It's either Sulfur, Nitrogen or Magnesium, these would explain the slow growth. She now has purple peptols an they start from the bottom up. Due to her being slow an now a light green with purple peptols, Im really thinking its Nitrogen deficiency and is leading to a Magnesium deficiency. So she gets fed today, and Im going to give her Advanced Nuts PH Per sensi, with some B-52 and foliar with ca/mg, fulvic acid. That should do the trick.
The plant has grown since yesterday, now the side branching is starting to elongate. The FIM I performed on the 19th was unsuccessful. The plant didn't want it. LOL I will show her who's boss and remove her top. Which brings me to my next issue. She looks a tab bit light in color now that she is under a MH HID. It's either Sulfur, Nitrogen or Magnesium, these would explain the slow growth. She now has purple peptols an they start from the bottom up. Due to her being slow an now a light green with purple peptols, Im really thinking its Nitrogen deficiency and is leading to a Magnesium deficiency. So she gets fed today, and Im going to give her Advanced Nuts PH Per sensi, with some B-52 and foliar with ca/mg, fulvic acid. That should do the trick.
tikitoker
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and now today I look at ur and it did not do the trick. She has leave cupping. Its not heat stress, its not light stress, the petals are purple so I'm thinking it's really a magnesium deficiency and their cup because they're praying for magnesium. I am convinced now more than ever that this so called super soil I made f****** sucks.
JohnDee
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Tiki,
I'm not so sure . The soil might be ok...but all the other crap your pouring onto it.
Seems like you're feeding it like a hydro plant almost.
Since you started out with organic soil...why not use organic methods? Some bat guano tea...maybe some worm castings. Perhaps a tweak of dolomite lime for the manesium. Just sayin'...
JD
I'm not so sure . The soil might be ok...but all the other crap your pouring onto it.
Seems like you're feeding it like a hydro plant almost.
Since you started out with organic soil...why not use organic methods? Some bat guano tea...maybe some worm castings. Perhaps a tweak of dolomite lime for the manesium. Just sayin'...
JD
tikitoker
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I am completely unimpressed with organic by its self. So I'm going to feed both chem and teas. All I want at this point is to clone and try a diffrent grow style. Then and only then will I know how the plant should really look and grow. The soil's amendments are not fully avaiable. I posted the recipe on here in the organics forum and its called Tikitoker's modified super soil. do trust me I think I really screwed up this soil with bad measurements its my first batch I've ever tried to formulate. no I've grown in Coco before and it was my very first grow many years ago and it was nothing but a disaster the plants look like total s*** anf my yeild really sucked. no I've come a long ways since then and I have realize what I did wrong and now that I know Coco has high potassium and has a hunger for calcium and magnesium. Now if you don't buffer the cocoa and add some additional calcium and magnesium you're going to have problems. Also if you're grown in cocoa its a better idea to use cocoa specific fertilizer one that has a lower potassium value because too much potassium will compete with calcium and magnesium.and foolishly I did it again. So I really think I'm just going to go to the hydro store and probably get some a little light warrior from Fox farmsand just feed Advanced Nutrients ph perfect sensi grow and then pH perfect connisour with additives. and this time I'm going to put some dolomite in it. For my super soil I relied on the calcium content in the bone meal as well as the calcium from oyster shell flour and magnesium sulfate along with the Kmag which is organic potassium magnesium and sulfur. I figured that would be a good buffer plus I buffered the coco before I rinsed it and brought my EC down. you know I'm not a master grower but my instinct is telling me that there is an abundance of one or more elements which is creating a slow growth the poor root developmentand now the purple stems and cupping
tikitoker
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I think that's why I love growing so much. I'm always learning and dispite the times I just wanna burn everything to the ground cus shits going downhill, I never do. I have dreams of my plants and being a master cultivator.
tikitoker
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Lol I friggin wish.
spliffbuddy
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reading through this thread I think the problem is possibly your super soil. This type of soil tends to be too rich for seedlings so would suggest next time you start the seedlings in a more suitable mix and then transplant to your super soil before switching to flowering, this should then last for the whole flowering period. I'd give them a week to bed in the new soil before switching to flowering. Using this process should negate the need for any additional feeding.
tikitoker
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just wanted to update and say that the problem is most certainly a magnesium deficiency and it has shown it's ugly brown spots. Just 1 blade of 3 on the second set of fan leaves. I flushed my soil and was alarmed to find that my PH was 7.4, so that's shit was brought back down to 6.5
I foliar fed 1/2 tsp ca/mg+fe, and I drenched her soaking wet. Then put the fan on her and raised the light 3' above canopy as to not magnify and burn. The meristem has turned back to green, but the cupping and purple peptols remain. This will pass eventually and new growth will resume as well as hopefully vigor. I just want to say thank you to all those who have chimed in and helped me.
I foliar fed 1/2 tsp ca/mg+fe, and I drenched her soaking wet. Then put the fan on her and raised the light 3' above canopy as to not magnify and burn. The meristem has turned back to green, but the cupping and purple peptols remain. This will pass eventually and new growth will resume as well as hopefully vigor. I just want to say thank you to all those who have chimed in and helped me.