Cropi Canna Seeds?

[kona gold]

I mean seriously, that splurge was a slap in the face to everybody around that's been working hard on finding the real DANK, that spent time and effort filtering the chaff from the corn. It also is a slight towards a very strong common knowledge-base that I have come to love and feel VERY defensive over.
It is selfish in the sense that it denies others personal preference and opinion. It is one-sided and ugly. To get aggressive because others do not share your opinion is pretty childish really. Aggression is such a bad form of debate that it is generally only employed by small children and large countries.

Bro....i understand about that one stupid rude comment that was made,,,,,
totally rude, and didnt even deserve a response!
What l'm trying to covey is, that if someone asks a question on this site they should not feel peer pressure ,ridiculing, codensation or ridiculing.
That goes on alot, as i've seen on many posts.
JOGROW's response to my post earlier is exactally what i'm talking about.....he breaks up what i said, and responds in a negative manner. Saying why dont i buy the seeds n find out......
If you read my post it's not offensive, and i state some info that is potentially correct on their strains. But if you havent run them or know people that have run their gear, then how do you know just by reading what a few have posted, especially since they have no experience trying these varieties. Their prices are only slightly higher than average.
I'm not saying their good or bad, but how do you know if no one has tried their gear.i mean just because i person gets a bad germ on a couple of free beanz...who is to say that person knows what their doing? The guy said he germed them straight in the soil....not the best method of germ by far. You gotta soak the for 24-36 hrs in distilled water, then paper towel method a possibly a drop or two of peroxide if the seeds look old.
Then by being peer pressured, with all the flack, some people who got FREE seeds weren't even going to try them, so now we will even know less.

I mean how do you know any of what said on here is reliable???? Those pictures you put up could be from someone else. How do we know most people respondiing actually have experience growing....they could just be computer geeks posing with 5000 posts?
Point being.....stop the negative tones, ridicule, peer pressure, condensation....and let people ask what they want, if you want to reply, try to be cool and respectful....i mean marijuana is supposed to bring people together.

 

[kona gold]

.......and if their stuff is not been proved at all.....why does every seed bank carry their seeds??? Just cause of some hyped up spamed up posts on forums????? That answer makes no sense. I could see if it was just one seed bank selling croppi canna....but its everyone i checked!!
Also, i asked Laura at Attitude if doggie nutz was defunct like i've been told, and her reply was no, that someone else took over and is working their beenz.

 

[greenghost420]

research the breeders, not the strains.

 

[TrichomeBob]

Kona gold, I agree with a lot you say, there is a lot of hating and trolling going on on this forum, and on the net in general.
But seriously trying to defend cropi canna is a bit defunct, who's the breeder behind them? Fair enough I haven't read the whole Internet but I've never seen a cropi canna grow,or for that matter a doggies nuts one.
if they were selling their beans at average prices they probably wouldn't get raped as much, but if I can buy nearly 5 packs of TGA gear for one of theirs, I think something smells fishy. Like they know they have shit beans and are quite happy for the odd person to fall for their shit and pay £200 plus for some shitty beans. Like jogro said, even if they were ok when packaged, 5 years down the line their gonna be poor at best.
their descriptions are poor at well , every fruit under the sun is named, banana x orange, I wouldn't trust any breeder with descriptions like that. Yes breeders use these terms, but not all at once.

Would u believe me if I was selling this

ive got some Super sour tangie diesel OG Kush Cookies I working on now, you wanna buy some, only £250 for 10 regs or £400 for 5 fems. Dude it's like cookies mixed with a bit of Kush, with a bit of sour tangie dieselness on the exhale, but has that skunky smell too!
With this one strain you can grow anything u want, u want a thin mint cookies pheno, no probs, just keep pheno hunting, only 250 a pack! If u need pics I can provide!!

Why don't u go buy a pack and prove us all wrong!

 

[TrichomeBob]

.......and if their stuff is not been proved at all.....why does every seed bank carry their seeds??? Just cause of some hyped up spamed up posts on forums????? That answer makes no sense. I could see if it was just one seed bank selling croppi canna....but its everyone i checked!!
Also, i asked Laura at Attitude if doggie nutz was defunct like i've been told, and her reply was no, that someone else took over and is working their beenz.

I've also asked Laura when the new TGA stuff will be on the site, she replied promptly saying she didn't know, the next day they were listed on the site sold out. I wouldn't believe everything they tell u, they may have already paid for the seeds so aren't gonna say their shit cos people won't buy them, they are a business after all and mainly interested in making money, not helping out us growers, have u ever tried sending them a email about shitty germination etc?

every seed company sells them, really? I used to like the tude and I order only thru them still, but lately a few of their practices have made me not trust them as much.
alot of seed companies are just out to make money, it's a very easy thing to do with cannabis seeds, very small products, a single plant can produce 1000s, and can be sold as much as £30-£50 each. Also a lot of the time there is no recall, they can sell u what they like and what u gonna do, goto trading standards and say my plant wasn't what I expected and see how far it gets u. So they have u by the balls, u have to trust them. Also for the fact I bet a lot of breeders just send them their seeds and they have to pack them, so u have to trust them again.

Hemp depot is probably the only seedbank that I've never really heard a bad thing about and ive always seen good reports on them, they don't carry cropi canna or doggies nuts which to me says a lot.
i would use them but being in the uk it's a lot easier for me to use the tude, I get my seeds always the next day but do pay more than hemp depot.

 

[kona gold]

Kona gold, I agree with a lot you say, there is a lot of hating and trolling going on on this forum, and on the net in general.
But seriously trying to defend cropi canna is a bit defunct, who's the breeder behind them? Fair enough I haven't read the whole Internet but I've never seen a cropi canna grow,or for that matter a doggies nuts one.
if they were selling their beans at average prices they probably wouldn't get raped as much, but if I can buy nearly 5 packs of TGA gear for one of theirs, I think something smells fishy. Like they know they have shit beans and are quite happy for the odd person to fall for their shit and pay £200 plus for some shitty beans. Like jogro said, even if they were ok when packaged, 5 years down the line their gonna be poor at best.
their descriptions are poor at well , every fruit under the sun is named, banana x orange, I wouldn't trust any breeder with descriptions like that. Yes breeders use these terms, but not all at once.

Would u believe me if I was selling this

ive got some Super sour tangie diesel OG Kush Cookies I working on now, you wanna buy some, only £250 for 10 regs or £400 for 5 fems. Dude it's like cookies mixed with a bit of Kush, with a bit of sour tangie dieselness on the exhale, but has that skunky smell too!
With this one strain you can grow anything u want, u want a thin mint cookies pheno, no probs, just keep pheno hunting, only 250 a pack! If u need pics I can provide!!

Why don't u go buy a pack and prove us all wrong!

That is my point exactly.....and your description is hilarious: sounds like most of the same regurgitated shit i hear by all the seed "breeders"!!!!
Let me tell you....out of all the kushes i've grown from seed......none have had a lemony pinsol funky dank.....blah blah blah!!!!! Sure it might look nice and be frosty....but weak in the flavor usually.

 

[kona gold]

I've also asked Laura when the new TGA stuff will be on the site, she replied promptly saying she didn't know, the next day they were listed on the site sold out. I wouldn't believe everything they tell u, they may have already paid for the seeds so aren't gonna say their shit cos people won't buy them, they are a business after all and mainly interested in making money, not helping out us growers, have u ever tried sending them a email about shitty germination etc?

every seed company sells them, really? I used to like the tude and I order only thru them still, but lately a few of their practices have made me not trust them as much.
alot of seed companies are just out to make money, it's a very easy thing to do with cannabis seeds, very small products, a single plant can produce 1000s, and can be sold as much as £30-£50 each. Also a lot of the time there is no recall, they can sell u what they like and what u gonna do, goto trading standards and say my plant wasn't what I expected and see how far it gets u. So they have u by the balls, u have to trust them. Also for the fact I bet a lot of breeders just send them their seeds and they have to pack them, so u have to trust them again.

Hemp depot is probably the only seedbank that I've never really heard a bad thing about and ive always seen good reports on them, they don't carry cropi canna or doggies nuts which to me says a lot.
i would use them but being in the uk it's a lot easier for me to use the tude, I get my seeds always the next day but do pay more than hemp depot.

Thanks for the info my brother. I just think it would be bad business to sell seeds at attitude, sea of seeds, herbies, seed depot....if they are completely unproven

 

[greenghost420]

people will sell what people will buy.... they are prob only listed to get rid of stock left then they are gone...

 

[Jogro]

JOGROW's response to my post earlier is exactally what i'm talking about.....he breaks up what i said, and responds in a negative manner. Saying why dont i buy the seeds n find out......

You're the one saying you can't trust third party reports, that they could be from newbs who don't know what they're doing, that the pictures could be false, etc. If you actually believe this, then the only way you're ever going to know the truth about Cropi-canna is to grow some out yourself.

What's so "negative" about pointing this out? If you're really interested in these, why not buy some and grow them? If you want something positive in this thread, how about leading by example and posting your own grow report?

But if you havent run them or know people that have run their gear, then how do you know just by reading what a few have posted, especially since they have no experience trying these varieties. Their prices are only slightly higher than average.

Asking price for Cropi-Canna regular 10 packs run from $80 to $266.

So in fact, on a per-ceed basis even their cheapest stuff is probably a bit more expensive than average. Their "premium" line costs 70% more on a per-ceed basis than say, famous award winning genetics from DNA Genetics, Mr. Nice, Rare Dankness and other established breeders with positive international reputations whose buds can actually be purchased in dispensaries and coffee-shops. Cropi-Canna isn't just "a little more than average" in cost, its potentially more than almost everything else on the commercial market, period.

Again, if you want to take a chance on these, go right ahead. But its hardly a mystery why no seasoned grower I know will do so, and why you're unlikely to find a good report.

I'm not saying their good or bad, but how do you know if no one has tried their gear.i mean just because i person gets a bad germ on a couple of free beanz...who is to say that person knows what their doing? The guy said he germed them straight in the soil....not the best method of germ by far. You gotta soak the for 24-36 hrs in distilled water, then paper towel method a possibly a drop or two of peroxide if the seeds look old. Then by being peer pressured, with all the flack, some people who got FREE seeds weren't even going to try them, so now we will even know less.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what are you supposed to conclude?

In this case, the lack of positive feedback and grow reports, lack of positive reputation on the company, vague ad copy, lack of clear genetic provenance, and over-market prices all point in one direction. . .and its NOT towards "best genetics on the planet, justifying highest market niche asking prices". Do I "know" the genetics here are mediocre? No. . .but with all available evidence pointing that way, and none suggesting excellence, what else should I conclude?

Also, contrary to what you're suggesting, I never told anyone not to plant these; I just explained why I wouldn't. Now, if I happened to have extra grow space, and these ceeds, AND no access to anything better, then sure, I'd grow them. But that's just not a realistic situation for me, nor probably for the ones who do have them.

Incidentally, I plant ceeds directly into soil all the time. If the ceeds are viable, and you know what you're doing, that method works fine, and has the added advantages of reducing the chance of handling damage to delicate seedlings and getting the plants established and growing in the fastest time possible. Disadvantages are potential for "damping off" (rot) and inability to easily check on germination status.

I mean how do you know any of what said on here is reliable???? Those pictures you put up could be from someone else. How do we know most people respondiing actually have experience growing....they could just be computer geeks posing with 5000 posts?

If you can't trust published grow reports, then why are you asking for them?

Point being.....stop the negative tones, ridicule, peer pressure, condensation....and let people ask what they want, if you want to reply, try to be cool and respectful.... i mean marijuana is supposed to bring people together.

"Condensation"?
Funny, there is only one person in this thread telling other people what they should and shouldn't be posting, and its not me.

 

[greenghost420]

this thread should die if no one can post a positive about crapicanna birdseeds... i wanted banana and cherries and i got em from gage green. go get u some...

 

[Jogro]

.......and if their stuff is not been proved at all.....why does every seed bank carry their seeds???

That's a remarkable amount of misinformation jammed into one sentence.

First of all, not "every" seed-bank carries "Cropi-Canna"; just a few of the largest ones. Most seed banks don't carry this. Herbies doesn't list any in stock, and neither does BC Bud Depot, Single Ceed Center, Seed Boutique, and several others I could name.

In my opinion, this question is exactly backwards. The question you should be asking is, why, if Cropi-Canna genetics are so GOOD that they justify the highest asking prices in the market, do only a FEW seedbanks stock these? If these are so good, why are you having a hard time finding anyone respectable claiming so?

Next, I never said their beans hadn't been "proved" (ie tested); I said that there are legitimate reasons why experienced growers won't touch these, and why you're probably not going to find any grow reports that satisfy you.

Lastly, the premise of your question is false. Do you actually believe that just because a ceed bank stocks something it has to be good? IE, there are no such thing as bad commercial ceeds, or that out of the 50+ breeders that, say Attitude stocks, ALL of them have good genetics?

I hate to be "negative" again, but in my experience, this simply isn't true. Lots of the beans in the ceedbank coolers just represent poor genetics, are unstable, hermie-prone, and/or offer low viability. Since the ceedbanks typically work on consignment systems, they don't care. They don't take a loss if the beans don't move, and if buyers have problems with viability or genetics, the banks (rightfully) tell their customers to take it up with the breeders. Except for the banks selling ceeds they themselves generate, they sure as heck don't actually test the viability of the beans they sell, let alone the quality of the final product.

At best if they get lots of complaints about a particular breeder, they may stop carrying their product. . .but even then not necessarily.

Also, i asked Laura at Attitude if doggie nutz was defunct like i've been told, and her reply was no, that someone else took over and is working their beenz.

That's interesting. Thanks for the update.

Next time you speak with her, perhaps you might ask her what her company will do for you if, hypothetically, you found that none of the hyper-expensive Doggies nutz/Croppi Canna beans they sold you germinated, or alternatively, if the final product was less than satisfactory?

After mulling over her answer for a while, it might be a bit clearer why seasoned growers typically stick to proven genetics from reputable companies.

 

[kona gold]

That's a remarkable amount of misinformation jammed into one sentence.

First of all, not "every" seed-bank carries "Cropi-Canna"; just a few of the largest ones. Most seed banks don't carry this. Herbies doesn't list any in stock, and neither does BC Bud Depot, Single Ceed Center, Seed Boutique, and several others I could name.

In my opinion, this question is exactly backwards. The question you should be asking is, why, if Cropi-Canna genetics are so GOOD that they justify the highest asking prices in the market, do only a FEW seedbanks stock these? If these are so good, why are you having a hard time finding anyone respectable claiming so?

Next, I never said their beans hadn't been "proved" (ie tested); I said that there are legitimate reasons why experienced growers won't touch these, and why you're probably not going to find any grow reports that satisfy you.

Lastly, the premise of your question is false. Do you actually believe that just because a ceed bank stocks something it has to be good? IE, there are no such thing as bad commercial ceeds, or that out of the 50+ breeders that, say Attitude stocks, ALL of them have good genetics?

I hate to be "negative" again, but in my experience, this simply isn't true. Lots of the beans in the ceedbank coolers just represent poor genetics, are unstable, hermie-prone, and/or offer low viability. Since the ceedbanks typically work on consignment systems, they don't care. They don't take a loss if the beans don't move, and if buyers have problems with viability or genetics, the banks (rightfully) tell their customers to take it up with the breeders. Except for the banks selling ceeds they themselves generate, they sure as heck don't actually test the viability of the beans they sell, let alone the quality of the final product.

At best if they get lots of complaints about a particular breeder, they may stop carrying their product. . .but even then not necessarily.


That's interesting. Thanks for the update.

Next time you speak with her, perhaps you might ask her what her company will do for you if, hypothetically, you found that none of the hyper-expensive Doggies nutz/Croppi Canna beans they sold you germinated, or alternatively, if the final product was less than satisfactory?

After mulling over her answer for a while, it might be a bit clearer why seasoned growers typically stick to proven genetics from reputable companies.

Thank you for your responsr JOGROW......excellent info.....and there was not any negativity at all.
Much more helpful......thanks again.

 

[bigfattone420]

Received 8 croppi canna seeds (free) from sea of seeds germ 4 in paper towel..Not one popped!!..still have 4 more lol

 

[greenghost420]

damn you mean the germ rate sucks so far? im wondering why...