Slinger's Back at it! 600 watt LED autoflowers and such

[slinger36s]

Day 13 - Autos
Day 7 - The Church
Day 3 - Goji OG


This Timeline is going to get very confusing, I will do my best to keep it correct but sometimes my numbers dont add up right. Anyways, things are moving along quickly as expected for the Auto's, my dolomite lime should be here Monday so Im gonna mix up my soil tuesday morning and transplant. I could also transplant The Church most likely, I gotta get that tent here today so I can have room once they are in the big pots. Have not given any nutrients to the Auto's yet but we are almost at the 2 week mark, Once I transplant I will check the PPM and PH of the soil so I can get an Idea where we are at and If I can start a low dose of nutrients 1 week after transplant.
-slinger

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The Church


GOJI OG

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B

 

[HrilL]

Looks good so far. Would like to see how this goes for ya. Never grown autos before but it seems like a lot of people on here like to do them.

 

[slinger36s]

UPDATEEE!!!!

The 4'x4'x7' tent is up, moved the one light I have not been using into the tent in prep, I feel like I have too much space now but I know I can fill it up, now comes the problem, Exhaust, I want to move my 440 CPM exhaust fan inside of the tent, I also want to try pulling the air through the carbon filter instead of pushing it through so I would be moving the carbon filter inside as well. Too tired to do any of it right now, putting this bitch together by myself was so hard work and Im glad I was super stoned while doing it. Its hard to believe that in about a month and a half my autoflowers will be done, so crazy. 2 weeks til I grab up some clones, I dont have the time to wait for a heavy sativa strain to flower out so I gotta stick to more indica dominant strains. Maybe some GDP or even a high CBD strain for my back. So many options.

Looks good so far. Would like to see how this goes for ya. Never grown autos before but it seems like a lot of people on here like to do them.

Thanks man, I have never grown auto's either so sit back and watch a first time auto grow and learn with me! GROW ON!

 

[blowincherrypie]

Ya pulling it through the filter will work great for you! That shit is definitely 4 hand work. I did it myself but I had to dig deep for that one.

 

[slinger36s]

DAY
15 Auto's
9 Church
5 Goji Og

So I got the tent completed, the air is being pulled through the carbon filter! I love this setup so much more but I think I am gonna put another 300 watt panel in during flowering. Only one of the panels is on right now due to the fact that I dont need to cover a big area til I transplant everything. I will be vegging til JULY 1st and then switching over to 12/12, this give my auto's plenty of time to finish and about 10 weeks total veg time for the plants from seed. Picking up the clones in 2 weeks so they will have about a 6 week veg time. Pulling out all the stops for myself, GO BIG OR GO HOME. Going to try and not purchase very many things this grow, I definitely paid myself back from the 1st grow but Id like to do everything this grow pretty much for free besides electricity bill. There are a couple things I need like a Hannah Ph/PPM/EC meter, more string and stakes. Possibly some Big Bud/Carbo-Load. So excited to see another grow completed and have some more tasty nugs! No nutrients til 2 weeks after I transplant, which should be this coming Tuesday. Gonna get some big pots for this round, most likely some 7 gallon pots for the Church and the Clones. The Goji OG is gonna stay in 5 gallons since I am not sure of their sex, once they show Ill decide what to do!

Ya pulling it through the filter will work great for you! That shit is definitely 4 hand work. I did it myself but I had to dig deep for that one.

Definitely a 4 hand job bro, had to dig deep for sure but found the strength and ingenuity to do it on my own. This grow is gonna be sick and I hope everyone stays tuned. As always any questions or advice are totally welcome and I will do my best to answer in a timely fashion.

-slinger





AUTO A



AUTO B


THE CHURCH

GOJI A

GOJI B
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[slinger36s]

Well the dirt is mixed up and ready for transplanting.

1 cubic ft Fox Farm Ocean Forest
.5 cubic ft Fox Farm Light Warrior
.15 cubic ft Perlite
1.5 cups Powdered Dolomite Lime

Went into
2x 3.5 GALLON circular pots (Auto's )
1x 5 gallon square pot (The Church)

Transplanting tonight and giving them 24 hrs of dark to help prevent stress.

-slinger

 

[Yodazherb]

Amazing how tight the node structure is with LED huh.
Looking good man.

 

[slinger36s]

Amazing how tight the node structure is with LED huh.
Looking good man.

For sure man, I thought it was because I was keeping the lights Super close with the last grow but the lights are a good 6 in further away and still very little stretch, especially on The church, it's first leaves are almost touching the ground!

 

[slinger36s]

DAY
17 AUTO's
11 The Church
7 GOJI OG

Transplanted the two Auto's last night, decided to put them into the 5 Gallon pots, I know a lot of ppl say anything over 4 is a waste but fuck it, its not like I don't have the space haha. Didn't transplant the church yet, I want it to get a few more sets of leaves on it before I do that. I'm so ready to begin some more LST, I think its almost my favorite part of the grow cycle. Looking into getting some 7 gallon pots for the clones I pick up. After looking at the root system from my last grow vegging 8 weeks with the clones and putting them into 5 gallon pots, they seemed to have run out of room for their roots, so I wanna change it up and go with a bigger pot. Going to try to find some Cherry Pie and GSC clones but if I can't I wont be too sad because Im sure I can find some really good OG's. Sorry for the no picture update but we are currently in a 24hr dark phase to help with the shock of transplanting!
-slinger

 

[RB1956]

Hey, are you pretty satisfied with those LED's?? Im going to get some tomorrow just not sure which to get.. Also how hot is your tent?? What size fan filter do have and how bad is the stank with your filter.. I was going to ad a 1000 mg Air Ozone Generator Ozonizer Air sterilizer 1jr with my fan filter combo.. Just to be safe.. But now im trying to decide should the Ozone generator go inside the tent or in the room when the tent is?? Your ladies are looking very sexy by the way..

 

[slinger36s]

Hey, are you pretty satisfied with those LED's?? Im going to get some tomorrow just not sure which to get.. Also how hot is your tent?? What size fan filter do have and how bad is the stank with your filter.. I was going to ad a 1000 mg Air Ozone Generator Ozonizer Air sterilizer 1jr with my fan filter combo.. Just to be safe.. But now im trying to decide should the Ozone generator go inside the tent or in the room when the tent is?? Your ladies are looking very sexy by the way..

My area: 4x4x7 Grow Tent
My ventilation: 440 CPM 8 In Can Fan + Speed Controller
Filtration: Carbon Filter (unknown brand came with the fan)
Temperature/Humidity: 79-81 F / average 54% RH
Lights : 2 x 300 watt Quad Band LED PANEL( uses 300 x 1 watt bulbs)
I use the speed controller to dial in my temps, I do not know anything really about Ozone Generators from experience but I have read to not ever have one in a room that you are sleeping in/using regularly. If Its a sealed room I don't know why you would not keep it out of your tent, I know it has to produce some kind of heat so you would want it as far away from your plants as possible. You can see the results of the LED Panels in my signature under the FINISHED link. They work well, I pulled about .79 grams per stated watt of LED, I need to put them on a kill-a-watt to see what their actual draw is, could have possibly yielded over 1 g per watt. I had no issues except a little light bleaching, Im still dialing in how far away from the plant the lights can be where they still get maximum penetration and coverage. As far as odor is concerned, upon walking into my apartment their was not really a stink during peak flowering but the slight smell of things growing, plant smells. Hope that helps and that I answered your questions. Feel free to ask more, I will answer what I can with what experience I have. Just keep reading more and more info friend, that and actually growing is the only way to learn.

-slinger

 

[RB1956]

Hey, thanks boss that really helps.. About how far away are you keeping your lights?? Also do you think I should be able to use this light in this tent size. [h=1]Pro 7 Band Hydroponic 800w 800 Watt Hydro LED Plant Grow Light Flowering IR UV, and put it in a 4x4x6 tent?? or do I need more light?? Or should I get 3x 300w for better area coverage?? Sorry new to LED lights but sick of HPS 15+ temps over room temp.. Going to run 10-15 autos in 2 gallon air pots if this helps any?? Wonder if I put the ozone thing in the living room like 20ft from the tent if it will still work and just kill the rest of the smell from the tent after the air filter.. This light appears to have the right colors and looks decent and they have a couple positive reviews from the light, just want to know your thoughts and thanks again[/h]

 

[slinger36s]

Day
18 Auto's
12 The Church
8 Goji OG

Everything looks good after the transplant but I can tell they are a little shocked since they are not growing as fast as they were before but oh well, hopefully I get something decent from these Auto's but this is currently a test since I have never grown them before and I don't expect the get the absolute maximum I can from them at this point. Still no nutes added besides the little bit of Eleanor's VF-11 I have been adding to the spray bottle. Ill check the PPM of the soil for the Auto's in a week and start adding nutrients as needed. Its gonna be a jungle in there soon, looking forward to it and an amazing harvest!
-slinger

Hey, thanks boss that really helps.. About how far away are you keeping your lights?? Also do you think I should be able to use this light in this tent size. Pro 7 Band Hydroponic 800w 800 Watt Hydro LED Plant Grow Light Flowering IR UV, and put it in a 4x4x6 tent?? or do I need more light?? Or should I get 3x 300w for better area coverage?? Sorry new to LED lights but sick of HPS 15+ temps over room temp.. Going to run 10-15 autos in 2 gallon air pots if this helps any?? Wonder if I put the ozone thing in the living room like 20ft from the tent if it will still work and just kill the rest of the smell from the tent after the air filter.. This light appears to have the right colors and looks decent and they have a couple positive reviews from the light, just want to know your thoughts and thanks again

Personally I like having multiple light sources for coverage but then again I was given these lights so I am doing the best I can for what I have, the light is currently about 20 in from the top of the plants but I am going to be lowering it slowly down to about 12-14 in, this seemed to work best for my last grow, especially during flowering. Once again I know next to nothing about Ozone generators but I would keep them OUT of any living space. They should be rated on how much area they can cover so that should determine which one you buy for your space. So if you want to know what I would do for your 4x4x6 space, I would put 4 x 300 watt lights in there, hanging in the shape of a square about 12 in apart 14 in above the canopy. I dont know anything about the different brands of LED lights but from what I have seen from the people growing here, if I were spending my money and had a generous amount to spend I would go with a company like Magnum or Area 51.

Auto A

Auto B

The Church

Goji A

Goji B
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[RB1956]

Hey, I figured out what im doing finally boss.. Im running 2 tents both fit into closets instead of a 4x4x6.5 in the middle of a room, just looks obvious then lol.. 1 tent is a mother tent 51L x 22w x 48h and going to run 2x 300w LEDs in there with a 4inch Hurricane fan and Phresh filter, 2x little circulation fans and running 1.5-2 gallon air pots 8 of them, La Diva Auto, And Sweet Seeds Dark Devil run 4 of each and the other tent will be a 36L x 20W x 60H, but in this tent im running a 400w Super cool tube has built in fan 138cfm, Will only have to add a filter and run ducting from left to right side of tent and im done.. Using 2g air pots and will run 8-10 autos in here.. Have 5x La Diva, 3x La Frutta (Herbies freebies), and 10x Dark Devil so I have 18 seeds but who knows how many will crack, only lost 1 on 30+ but ya never know.. But ya once I know how many I will split them up equal since they have about the same footage.. And I get to compare LED and HPS all at once.. Plus I have 20X Sweet Skunk from Sweet Seeds as well that are going outside.. Couldn't pass it up Herbies has 20 of these for 60 bucks and they say 35-135g per plant.. And automatic outdoors at 9 weeks to that's great

 

[RB1956]

Hey whats your thoughts on running 2 filters in a tent to completely cover the odor hopefully.. Should I run them back to back or put 1 right after the cool-tube and then 1 right outside of the tent still connected with ducting of course.. And with the LED's I would run ducting and have fan/filter combo in the middle of the tent and then have the other one right outside as well like the other.. Or should I just put them back to back with each other.. Whats your thoughts..

 

[qrownroyal]

I'm a noobie. I'm learning how to garden n I'm looking for a reliable n safe site to get my seeds. Can you point me in the right direction please?

 

[slinger36s]

Hey, I figured out what im doing finally boss.. Im running 2 tents both fit into closets instead of a 4x4x6.5 in the middle of a room, just looks obvious then lol.. 1 tent is a mother tent 51L x 22w x 48h and going to run 2x 300w LEDs in there with a 4inch Hurricane fan and Phresh filter, 2x little circulation fans and running 1.5-2 gallon air pots 8 of them, La Diva Auto, And Sweet Seeds Dark Devil run 4 of each and the other tent will be a 36L x 20W x 60H, but in this tent im running a 400w Super cool tube has built in fan 138cfm, Will only have to add a filter and run ducting from left to right side of tent and im done.. Using 2g air pots and will run 8-10 autos in here.. Have 5x La Diva, 3x La Frutta (Herbies freebies), and 10x Dark Devil so I have 18 seeds but who knows how many will crack, only lost 1 on 30+ but ya never know.. But ya once I know how many I will split them up equal since they have about the same footage.. And I get to compare LED and HPS all at once.. Plus I have 20X Sweet Skunk from Sweet Seeds as well that are going outside.. Couldn't pass it up Herbies has 20 of these for 60 bucks and they say 35-135g per plant.. And automatic outdoors at 9 weeks to that's great

Holy shit that's a lot of gardening bro, I think that you should run 4 gallon pots though the autos supposedly need 3.5 gallons to fully reach their potential. Auto's are just a side project for me though.

Hey whats your thoughts on running 2 filters in a tent to completely cover the odor hopefully.. Should I run them back to back or put 1 right after the cool-tube and then 1 right outside of the tent still connected with ducting of course.. And with the LED's I would run ducting and have fan/filter combo in the middle of the tent and then have the other one right outside as well like the other.. Or should I just put them back to back with each other.. Whats your thoughts..

I would connect a filter to your light, slows down the exhaust. I would get a bigger fan if you are going to be pulling through one side filter and pushing through a filter on the other end, the fan is going to have to work extra hard moving the air. 650 CPM or more. Most filters tell you how much air they require to work correctly.

I'm a noobie. I'm learning how to garden n I'm looking for a reliable n safe site to get my seeds. Can you point me in the right direction please?

Attitude seed bank. Google it!

Thanks for your questions guys, hope I helped!
-slinger

 

[RB1956]

Hey slinger.. Yea well cant afford to buy it no more people getting crazy and this way ill be set for a minute.. Plus its like wine gets better with AGE, cant wait to try it after like 6mth cure.. Plus with my ma's Colon Cancer she also wants to have it now.. So this way I can have it for me and my family and it wont cost nothing but this initial money and electric from then on.. We have to spend about 600 a month for my family so after 3 months its free is how im looking at it.. And my electric is 6 cents PKW really cheap don't even notice a 600w.. I was wondering if 138CFM would be enough.. I know according to peoples measurements its plenty for both tents.. The Vortex fan only has 177CFM 4inch.. Remember there will be an A/C in the room set at 68 so im not to worried it wont get over 78 and that's perfect could even go a little higher and be alright.. But ill see how the fan does and if it feels like its struggeling I get another 6" to add since my cool tube is 6".. Hey just won a 800w LED light that puts out 535 draw for 400 bucks lol brand new.. Im going to do a comparison test 400w Lumatek Ballast Supercool tube in a 51L x 22W x 48H VS a 800w LED 535 draw in a 36L x 20W x 60H( alittle over kill o well lol) I know its not totally fair but actual draw difference is like 70w I think the lumatek actually draws closer to 450-460w.. But the spaces in SQ are almost equal as well.. But basically I want to see which does better in GPW category and which has better THC and looks better ECT.. What do you think boss

 

[RB1956]

Oh yeah as far as pot size for autos the suggested size for most by the BREEDER is 7L-10L about 2 gallon.. Remember autos have a very short life that is pre determined, and the bigger the pot the longer it takes for the roots to hit bottom and actually start growing your NUGGYS.. So for autos you don't really want 4g IMO.. Also air pots are like have double the space since they cant get root bound.. Slinger found brand new Vorteks for under 100 bucks..

 

[slinger36s]

Oh yeah as far as pot size for autos the suggested size for most by the BREEDER is 7L-10L about 2 gallon.. Remember autos have a very short life that is pre determined, and the bigger the pot the longer it takes for the roots to hit bottom and actually start growing your NUGGYS.. So for autos you don't really want 4g IMO.. Also air pots are like have double the space since they cant get root bound.. Slinger found brand new Vorteks for under 100 bucks..

Yea I dont know anything about Air Pots, I only grow in soil. As far as what the breeders say....They also say that flowering times are x amount of days but its usually 1-3 weeks more than their suggested time in my experience. I don't think the roots have to touch the bottom to produce nugs, flowering is triggered by the changing of the lights schedule or as far as auto's are concerned, the Ruderalis gene causes the plant to begin flowering after a certain period of time. Has nothing to do with the roots touch anything, plants grow outdoors in ENDLESS or virtually endless amounts of soil, there is no "bottom".

Sorry to hear about the cancer, that is terrible and I am glad she can be treated with a non-pharmaceutical substance. With the ac in the room you will be fine, I didn't read that part earlier, just make sure you get the proper air exchange and its all good. Best of luck with your side by side project, ill definitely watch that journal! I am currently looking into getting a 400 watt 2700k Induction light to add to the LED's.

-slinger