greenhouse and mandala seed companys

[kushhound187]

A big thanks to sunni for cleaning up this thread. it was my first thread i posted, and would have been sad to see it vanish. it was turning into a real piece of shit tho, thanks again sunni for the clean up.

 

[Kite High]

I do believe greenhouse get an unfair bad rep. Sick of hearing shit like "ooh dude don't get great white shark from greenhouse get shark shock from mr nice... it's the original" .

BS! greenhouse has the goods as well. Not saying all their strains are good, but they do have some good strains, they must do. They CAN'T be as shit as these faceless people on annon message boards make out. Some say they buy their cannabis cups. I want to see the proof of this before i will even begin to believe that they haven't won a cup legit.

I think I might run a few greenhouse strains in future just to prove to myself that i won't be swayed by the opinions of people who may or may not know wtf they are even talking about on the net. White rhino is very tempting.

Saying mandala isn't 100% solid though i think may be off. From what i have seen and heard they work extensively to stabalise their strains.

Actually I see a trend the cause of which can either of two...When the Seed House becomes Top Dog, ie Barney's Farm, Greenhouse, Sensi Seeds, Cali Conn, etc it seems that their reputation comes under attack...This is either from haters, or from once the get the golden egg they focus on it rather than the quality that got them there...I suspect it is most accurately a combination of the two

 

[dgp]

And btw, i just checked out their line of seeds. bohdi only carries a couple strain sutable for my height restricted room. And i dont need any uzbekistani x with kush. if i want kush, ill buy it off someone. its everywhere in my town. i have an interest in trying many different strains, from different breeders. however, i will not purchase any shit from barneys farm. ive never heard anything good at all, and ive smoked several of his varietys. now that is beginner gear. and even experts have shitty results. look at a pick of dr grinspoon. it looks retarded. to breed with barneys would be a true tragety, fit for only a idiot. im totally happy with the greenhouse, so i dont mind breeding with their shit for now.

you have no idea what you are talking about. Barney's is an industry standard, are you retarded? Btw, my dr grinspoon wax is the best I've ever had. No beginner gear here. They don't give cups to shitty breeders..especially not 40 times. Read something, learn a little before you talk. It might save you some flaming.
jesus. Why don't you start bashing Chimera, dj short, and Neville while your at it

 

[racerboy71]

alright people chill out or i'll just the lock the thread up and you can all go argue somewhere else... christ, take a chill pill or two..


thanks, and thanks sunni..

 

[sunni]

alright people chill out or i'll just the lock the thread up and you can all go argue somewhere else... christ, take a chill pill or two..


thanks, and thanks sunni..

no problemo sheriff everyone said their sorries and are moving on except the last guy who posted still has some fightin spirit hahaha

 

[Kite High]

and my kaia kush would knock that bud outta the grow room sorry... looks right nice dont get me wrong but i get herbs on the street frosty like that dont meen they keep me buzzed long lol im done arguing with you mr stranger, but i checked ur profile n u do have nice fucken plants, so il be the bigger man and +rep you, bet u wernt expecting that huh?

FYI HB is a grand grower and I have learned much from him...having sampled his wares it is really high quality high with the best taste and smell...and I been smoking/growing over 30 years...and seriously this dude has a verey full life and travels the world due to his career...Lighten up he never really attacked you and you have to admit that it sHOULD cause people to be weary when new members come out so flagrantly for a company that by OUR experiences is subpar...just the dude Arjan's personna prevents me from giving him a nickel just like subfool...its my money and if you're a douche you're not getting any

 

[dgp]

My bad. On topic, I a a big fan of gh. They have a wide selection of good genetics and are one of the cheapest breeders for good stock. Never been let down, super lemon haze is top ten for sure. They are the Ford of seeds, many models, lots of marketing. Every now and then we use a ford product but we are always looking for that Ferrari.

 

[Bear Country]

Im pretty stoked about the mandalas. im not knocking em, they are awesome. i just want people to be totally informed. and what you said is also true. and ive said before as well, great stealth and custome service. their genetics are eazy enough for a beginner, but i wouldnt reccomend it unless they have a naturally green thumb, enough space and patience, and werent growing for income. i just dont see the potential for cash cropping em indoors with a hieght and floor space restiction. Deffinitly a nice personal smoke. no denying the finished product is killer. Every plant has a perfect scenario, and its only fair to let people know the whole truth. i wish mandala woulda told me the ganesh has a tall ass pheno with airy ass buds. now, im not going to whine about that the, the satoris are no joke. ganesh is ok, smells cool and super distinct, however its grow charachteristics make it undesirable for my space.

Have you tried some of thier shorter strains....Hashberry, WhiteSatin, SpeedQueen.....the other nice thing about thier strains is that they can handle a hot grow room....Thier sativa hybreeds do put on some stretch but you could always LST. I managed to keep them to about 3 ft tall and yeilds were very nice.....

 

[kushhound187]

@ racerboy71, im sorry my thread is kicking up so much shit. Please dont kill it.i really hope everyone can just get back to the point, which is experience with greenhouse. amd as for dgp.i merely said i wouldnt buy barnes gear, and i thought grinspoons pic looked dumb. that was based off of what i have heard(which is quite a bit) about barney(before yesterday, never heard 1 good thing. ) however kite high and shawn have kindly told me they had excellent results, and as i pointed out, many say greenhouse is bad, yet i have good results. so why not try. and as for dj short. i have his book, i follow it almost 100%. if i could afford his seeds today, i would buy em. however i have to wait. no need to get mad. I spoke out of turn, and believed what i heard. Im going to admit my mistake for not trying, and buy a pack of barneys. however, no way in hell am i buying tangerine dream. lol ive seen one of em and it looked like the worst schwag i ever seen. Big thanks again to admin for fixing the issues surrounding this thread. respect to everyone, and please show repect to all, i would like to see this thread stay for good. thanks again everone cheers!

 

[kushhound187]

Have you tried some of thier shorter strains....Hashberry, WhiteSatin, SpeedQueen.....the other nice thing about thier strains is that they can handle a hot grow room....Thier sativa hybreeds do put on some stretch but you could always LST. I managed to keep them to about 3 ft tall and yeilds were very nice.....

I wont even fuck around with lst. i dont do unnatural things to my plants like that. growing indoors is already unnatural enough. and i will try a couple othe mandala strains, i just wanted to share my experience. they said gannesh is short, when all of em grew taller than my satoris, arent as chrysaly, and just didnt fit the description as well as say satori did. that said, mandala is sick, i dont mind the surprizes. it didnt get too tall, close, but not quite there. and i find it strange, under the same exact conditions, the satoris are maturing faster. their germ guide is what made me sucsessful. i wont lie, i sucked at sprouting until i read that shit. i just want to share, in a unbias way, my whole experience. i dont diss seedbanks, as its nature, and sometimes either condition, or something else, can cause a plant to do weird shit. mandala is a real wildcard tho, its like the lotto you are garanteed to win something. maybe some tasty head bud, or a killer clone mama. or, once in a blue.moon, you get a momma or a poppa truly worth breeding with.

 

[kushhound187]

Like i said in the op, arjan calling himself king of cannabis is a joke. and not a good one. However, in 7 years of buying greenhouse, ive always got exactly what they sold me. kite, you are the one who changed my mind on barneys, lef me change your mind on greenhouse. im willing to try barney becuase of your good experience. if you want, pm me your email, ill shot you a couple pics, and you can decide for yourself. ive had great success with thier indicas, can only speak for super lemon haze(killa weed) in thier sativa department. I know arjan kinda sounds like a asshole, but checkout his grow sessions. They are very useful for picking a strain. and check out a strain hunters video. when hes not being the king, hes actually pretty humble. peace bro

 

[Bear Country]

I wont even fuck around with lst. i dont do unnatural things to my plants like that. growing indoors is already unnatural enough. and i will try a couple othe mandala strains, i just wanted to share my experience. they said gannesh is short, when all of em grew taller than my satoris, arent as chrysaly, and just didnt fit the description as well as say satori did. that said, mandala is sick, i dont mind the surprizes. it didnt get too tall, close, but not quite there. and i find it strange, under the same exact conditions, the satoris are maturing faster. their germ guide is what made me sucsessful. i wont lie, i sucked at sprouting until i read that shit. i just want to share, in a unbias way, my whole experience. i dont diss seedbanks, as its nature, and sometimes either condition, or something else, can cause a plant to do weird shit. mandala is a real wildcard tho, its like the lotto you are garanteed to win something. maybe some tasty head bud, or a killer clone mama. or, once in a blue.moon, you get a momma or a poppa truly worth breeding with.

Well....sorry you had such a bad experience bro.....as for me...I had great results and am quite happy with Mandala....I will keep them on my list of seed banks from which I will order from....plus they sell many other breeders work in thier shop and I have ordered GH .TH seeds and many others from thier shop. The reason I mentioned that some of thier strains can handle a little hotter grow room is because a few summers ago I tried to do an indoor grow and temps just got to hot.....but surprisingly...the plants did not stress and go hermi on me so true to thier word...the plants did handle hotter temps then normal. I do not grow indoors during summer anymore as I cannot control the heat and I figure why do that when I have 1000 acres to throw a few seeds down.

Honestly...I see it like this....and all you have to do is get on any thread thats on seed and strain forum and see for yourself.....one guy will say that a particular strain is total shit and the next guy will say he is crazy,...best stuff he ever grew. and same goes for seed banks...So I take it with a grain of salt. The only way to truly find out is to grow it out yourself....then and only then can one really decide if its worth doing it again.....This is the NET brother.....your going to encounter opinions of all kinds....but hey....thats cool....you do your thing ....they do thier thing....main thing is we all show some respect for one another....its a given that not everyone is going to agree with me on everything and thats cool....I'm a big boy and I'm good with that.....fact is..that every time anyone of us puts up a thread or a post....you got to know ahead of time that sooner or later someone is going to come on and say HEY,,,wait a dam minute....I dont see it like that....thats the reality of it so peace to you bro....hope you do well in all your growing ventures!!!!!! and lets keep an open mind and try to keep on learning about this great plant we call Cannabis Peace out Bear

 

[Bear Country]

Like i said in the op, arjan calling himself king of cannabis is a joke. and not a good one. However, in 7 years of buying greenhouse, ive always got exactly what they sold me. kite, you are the one who changed my mind on barneys, lef me change your mind on greenhouse. im willing to try barney becuase of your good experience. if you want, pm me your email, ill shot you a couple pics, and you can decide for yourself. ive had great success with thier indicas, can only speak for super lemon haze(killa weed) in thier sativa department. I know arjan kinda sounds like a asshole, but checkout his grow sessions. They are very useful for picking a strain. and check out a strain hunters video. when hes not being the king, hes actually pretty humble. peace bro

Go to the seed and strain forum and see how people trash Barneys.....i'm not saying that I agree with them....I'm just making the point that its the NET....people express thier opinions....thats what they do....and maybe its not fair....maybe they dont know shit from shinola about growing...but they are free to express what they think!!

 

[kindnug]

Barney's Farm isn't cheap, and stability is extremely terrible.
Anyone can have good and bad experiences with the same breeder.
I personally have never had a breeder/strain with all keeper plants.

 

[kushhound187]

Well....sorry you had such a bad experience bro.....as for me...I had great results and am quite happy with Mandala....I will keep them on my list of seed banks from which I will order from....plus they sell many other breeders work in thier shop and I have ordered GH .TH seeds and many others from thier shop. The reason I mentioned that some of thier strains can handle a little hotter grow room is because a few summers ago I tried to do an indoor grow and temps just got to hot.....but surprisingly...the plants did not stress and go hermi on me so true to thier word...the plants did handle hotter temps then normal. I do not grow indoors during summer anymore as I cannot control the heat and I figure why do that when I have 1000 acres to throw a few seeds.

just to clarify, i didnt have a bad experience. i learned something new, and tried a strain, and now know what its like. however, they arent finished yet, so i cant really judge yet. mandala has great genes, great customer service , a great online shop with a large range of breeders seeds, and are all around pretty cool. like i say, i would be fucked without their germ guide. They are solid, but i have a serious height restriction, so surprises with things getting taller than they should be can be a problem. luckly it didnt matter today, but it could have. i just want everyone to know. that is my ONLY complaint, and its not mandalas fault. i could have got some mutants, or a mix up of seeds(shit happens). it dosent bother me, its not like im choppin anything or screaming bloody murder. it just wold have been nice if the ganesh was as good to me as the satoris have been so far. the satori is some serious mindfuck shit. hell of a punch packed into a midget satia. Never getting rid ef satori. thats a keeper. gannesh just dosent fit its description as well as satori fits its. I still got 10 ganesh seeds, and im gonna pop em. they smell grate, ansmd have a great calyx to leaf ratio. they just dont have the omph the satoris got. but, less leafy morbag appeal, lol you can have it all or win everyone. its all good. overal the smell is good, good enogh to see they do have value. just not in my current situation. the buds are pretty airy, and while thats ok for me to smoke, the bigger number the scale says, the more ya get paid. its just that simple for me.

 

[HGK420]

Ive had decent luck with greenhouse I got a great Pheno of Kaia Kush, very dense growth and DENSE nugs absolutely refreshing to smoke. no such luck with my lady burn 74's i got some serious yielders but they all had a bit of a rubbery leathery taste to em. every seed i got germed and grew like a weed.... so no complaints here.

i bet most of the complaining comes because nubs buy 1 seed and don't know how to grow to start. so even if they hit a winner wich is doubtful its probably not gonna be the greatest to begin with. so then said nub goes online and crys about how his greenhouse bean didn't win him the cannabis cup. i popped 10 lady burns and didn't get a winner, it takes numbers to find a true winner

 

[canna_420]

Ive had decent luck with greenhouse I got a great Pheno of Kaia Kush, very dense growth and DENSE nugs absolutely refreshing to smoke. no such luck with my lady burn 74's i got some serious yielders but they all had a bit of a rubbery leathery taste to em. every seed i got germed and grew like a weed.... so no complaints here.

i bet most of the complaining comes because nubs buy 1 seed and don't know how to grow to start. so even if they hit a winner wich is doubtful its probably not gonna be the greatest to begin with. so then said nub goes online and crys about how his greenhouse bean didn't win him the cannabis cup. i popped 10 lady burns and didn't get a winner, it takes numbers to find a true winner

Dude after 5 years of growing I tried GHS, though fuck the politic etc. Same as a few others here did...
You trying to say Im a noob?

 

[kushhound187]

Dude after 5 years of growing I tried GHS, though fuck the politic etc. Same as a few others here did...
You trying to say Im a noob?

Anyone who ghad germ problems, the seeds must have beed damaged, or otherwise fucked up. ive had 100% germ rtes with my gh seeds, same with my mandalas, and most other seeds i dought from a pro breeder. i had 19 out of 20 germ with nycd. the last seed didnt do anything. i rubbed the shell with fine sandpaper, and put into wet soil. It germed after a week. ive had great luck with seeds. i bought some master kush from dutch passion, all failed to pop. once and a while you do get bad seeds, if you get bad seeds all the time, look to a new suply.

 

[resinousflowers]

Yep, I have tons of time on my hands and I'd be happy to teach you how to take a photo .

you always show those same pics.havent you got any new ones???ive seen those pics in so many different threads.

anyway just because a breeder has the original,it doesnt mean all their stuff is dank.some of shanti's shit is average at best.

 

[resinousflowers]

Like i said in the op, arjan calling himself king of cannabis is a joke. and not a good one. However, in 7 years of buying greenhouse, ive always got exactly what they sold me. kite, you are the one who changed my mind on barneys, lef me change your mind on greenhouse. im willing to try barney becuase of your good experience. if you want, pm me your email, ill shot you a couple pics, and you can decide for yourself. ive had great success with thier indicas, can only speak for super lemon haze(killa weed) in thier sativa department. I know arjan kinda sounds like a asshole, but checkout his grow sessions. They are very useful for picking a strain. and check out a strain hunters video. when hes not being the king, hes actually pretty humble. peace bro

arjan calls himself king of cannabis,because he sells the most seeds and is alot more pro-active than most when it comes to cannabis politics etc.

in holland he feels like the king.