Alright dude, here's the screenshots from the conversation those guys were having. I grabbed the highlights, and not the whole thing. I'm sure you could go back and find it. That said, I've still seen a lot of recipes that call for humics in their teas... but KK knows his shit. I know which club some of the stuff he grows is going to, and let's just say that that in and of itself is testament to where he's at with his grows. And he knows about ORP levels. I didn't know what the fuck that even was up until a few months ago thanks to that guy. I'd recommend checking out some of the links he has, too. . .
edit: Fuck me, those uploaded much smaller than on my computer. Double fuck, screaming baby. See if you can't grab them and blow em up a little offline. I gotta run.
edit edit ... Here's the whole thing transcribed...
Alright, so Nugs and KushKing were discussing notes, and Nugs says (in regards to how he is now going to apply teas/guanos after talking with KK):
PART I
"alright, I did my research and ordered my supplies… this is what I will be feeding my plants/bennies…. (applied separately)
Dry Top Dress (worked into top 4 inches of soil)…. a mixture of….
epsoma tomato tone 3-4-6 with bennies
high P Guano 0-8-0 with bennies and myco
EWC
Tea…
EWC
Fish Hydrolysate
kelp
comfrey
humid acid
sucanat
I am stoked to go bottle free for the first time under the sun… will let my plants tell me what to feed. my guess is 2 top dresses in the next 5 weeks, and tea every other watering. . . . the only bottle being the fish. everything else is solid."
To which KK responds:
"microbe man states that humid acid, while a good soil amendment, has no place in tea. it even slows down microbial production. and why sucanat over pure molasses?"
PART II
I can't remember if this next part is from KK, or from microbe man. Either way I'll have some more links…
"I usually recommend brewing a balanced ACT whether in veg or flowering. The microorganisms needed by the soil/plant at the time should remain active and other will seek dormancy.
Molasses will feed both bacteria/archaea and fungi but fish hydrolysate is slightly better for fungal food stock from my observations. Both of them feed microbe groups.
The reasons one may wish to make a fungal dominant ACT is probably for disease suppression or for research if you believe (like I hypothesize) that there are varieties of dark septate endophytes extracted and grown in ACT if present in [vermi]compost which are a different type of mycorrhizal fungi.
The reason I do not advocate the use of humid acid in ACT is because both CT Guy and myself ran tests together and independently and observed that in a liquid, humid acid fed diddley squat… nada…. nothing.
We were motivated to do this test because CT Guy added humid acid to one of my brews and I was startled to see poor results when I was trying to show off my brewer to him.
This is not the be all and end all. It is just what I recommend and I am open for other microspocists' input.
This does not change that humid acid is a valuable soil amendment.
I never put anything in at the end nor partway through the brew… ever… well, except recently a tiny bit of oil to control foam.
PART III
Let's talk tea. Like anything else you need to know how it works.
http://www.microbeorganics.com
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=110620
Recipe 24 hr brew time
50 gallons water
4 litres compost (equal parts EWC, homemade compost, and alaskan forest humus)
1 litre molasses
120 ml fish hydrolysate
120 ml kelp
120 ml azomite
2x 110 LPM pumps
after brewing, place a sump pump in the barrel with a garden hose and wand. water each hole with equal amount of tea. then turn off your irrigation and water in compost bags found here: http://www.simplici-tea.com/reusable_mesh_bag.htm