Golden Tiger or Nevilles Haze
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cannabiscult
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ever tried golden goat? id go with the nevilles personally but thats just based on taste and my personal pref.
hazey grapes
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i haven't tried either. neville's is the ORIGINAL haze, at least in the seed market, and around the late 90s, it was selling for around $280 and at least used to be potent, but i haven't seen too many people actually reporting on it. golden tiger SHOULD be decent. that, and mandala's satori are one grower's top 2 sativas. a little more on the productive end of things, TGA subcool's jack the ripper & sannie's killing fields are reported to be very trippy and TGA Subcool's jack's cleaner 2 is my favorite trippy strain, though it has some body stone to it, with euphoria and it has a really cool touchy feely effect that makes it stand out.
HQS haze x skunk is very potent with some trippiness, but is more about euphoria and motivation. even after a month, it doesn't get stony like even columbian gold could. for such a potent long lasting strain, it doesn't expand much like some. it did have some paranoia, and most noticable, if you took too many big hits, it started getting a little dizzying like gold would. for $30, it's a bargain. it's buds weren't popcorn sized and the skunk #1 made it pretty resinous
i'm still testing holy smokes' malawi gold, but there's an aussie grower doing it outdoors too. that's a pretty fast pure sativa. whether or not it, or ace's version lives up to the trippy claims remains to be seen.
delta 9 labs' mekong haze is 2x cambodian and supposed to be VERY trippy. i and another grower couldn't get it's tiny beans to pop, but in my case, i think the cold room that was slowing other gear down too might have caused it as i've seen much better results with a heating mat and humidity dome since.
along with golden tiger, that grower really likes mandala satori too. i've only had 8 miles high and loved that myself though it's not the trippiest.
another grower swears by his ace panama seeds and is always trying to get me to try it. maybe, some day.
that's the best info i can share on growing pure sativas. a lot of "hazes" are pretty watered down these days and not trippy. so far, for fruity hazes, DNA sweet haze is the best i've tried but JC2 is still the most trippy i've tried. jack the ripper should be even more old school.
neville's haze SHOULD be trippy if it hasn't gone downhill. the reports i heard on arjan's hazes were that they were overrated. a little off the beaten path, dr atomic's metal haze should be good if cannabible can be trusted. the author really likes his NL5 haze. most of the banks that sell the gear are sketchy though. i've always had good dealing with hemp depot though with joey weed gear.
trippy is kind of an elusive trait to lock down as not many are growing for it AND reporting & comparing. for the purest sativas, ace, gage green, world of seeds, holy smokes and cannabiogen get the most word of mouth i've seen. my HS malawi was very promising before it got burned and i have some WoS 25% NL5 columbian i want to test, but ace and gage green have supposedly pure columbians.
i hope someone whose grown either strain you're interested in can shed more light on this for you.
2 things you should look into, especially with real sativas is SCROGging and using halides as DJ shorts recommends as would DR atomic as his metal haze is named after halides. sativas like full spectrum light best.
hope you grow something awesome and can report back on it as i'm working my way up to landrace gear at least for hybrid breeding.
if you knew where to get a cutting, the JYD haze dinafem uses for their super critical haze as well as another breeder should be very trippy. that's unobtanium though for most of us.
the thai ace uses is a meao thai. sativa seeds uses a legit highland thai that IS trippy and even better, tutti fruity flavored (the source of blueberry's flavor) but it is a fussy bitch to grow! it won't even show it's sex until it's in 2 gallons and taking it's time, and even then, like the IBL, it can turn hermie. when i think thai, i think highland. meao is a more minty and spicy thai i think, or at least not tutti fruity.
HQS haze x skunk is very potent with some trippiness, but is more about euphoria and motivation. even after a month, it doesn't get stony like even columbian gold could. for such a potent long lasting strain, it doesn't expand much like some. it did have some paranoia, and most noticable, if you took too many big hits, it started getting a little dizzying like gold would. for $30, it's a bargain. it's buds weren't popcorn sized and the skunk #1 made it pretty resinous
i'm still testing holy smokes' malawi gold, but there's an aussie grower doing it outdoors too. that's a pretty fast pure sativa. whether or not it, or ace's version lives up to the trippy claims remains to be seen.
delta 9 labs' mekong haze is 2x cambodian and supposed to be VERY trippy. i and another grower couldn't get it's tiny beans to pop, but in my case, i think the cold room that was slowing other gear down too might have caused it as i've seen much better results with a heating mat and humidity dome since.
along with golden tiger, that grower really likes mandala satori too. i've only had 8 miles high and loved that myself though it's not the trippiest.
another grower swears by his ace panama seeds and is always trying to get me to try it. maybe, some day.
that's the best info i can share on growing pure sativas. a lot of "hazes" are pretty watered down these days and not trippy. so far, for fruity hazes, DNA sweet haze is the best i've tried but JC2 is still the most trippy i've tried. jack the ripper should be even more old school.
neville's haze SHOULD be trippy if it hasn't gone downhill. the reports i heard on arjan's hazes were that they were overrated. a little off the beaten path, dr atomic's metal haze should be good if cannabible can be trusted. the author really likes his NL5 haze. most of the banks that sell the gear are sketchy though. i've always had good dealing with hemp depot though with joey weed gear.
trippy is kind of an elusive trait to lock down as not many are growing for it AND reporting & comparing. for the purest sativas, ace, gage green, world of seeds, holy smokes and cannabiogen get the most word of mouth i've seen. my HS malawi was very promising before it got burned and i have some WoS 25% NL5 columbian i want to test, but ace and gage green have supposedly pure columbians.
i hope someone whose grown either strain you're interested in can shed more light on this for you.
2 things you should look into, especially with real sativas is SCROGging and using halides as DJ shorts recommends as would DR atomic as his metal haze is named after halides. sativas like full spectrum light best.
hope you grow something awesome and can report back on it as i'm working my way up to landrace gear at least for hybrid breeding.
if you knew where to get a cutting, the JYD haze dinafem uses for their super critical haze as well as another breeder should be very trippy. that's unobtanium though for most of us.
the thai ace uses is a meao thai. sativa seeds uses a legit highland thai that IS trippy and even better, tutti fruity flavored (the source of blueberry's flavor) but it is a fussy bitch to grow! it won't even show it's sex until it's in 2 gallons and taking it's time, and even then, like the IBL, it can turn hermie. when i think thai, i think highland. meao is a more minty and spicy thai i think, or at least not tutti fruity.
cannabiscult
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malawi is great hazey im originally from durban and our natural malawi always got me "trippin" more so than drakensburg more than durban more than port elizabeth poison. keep going with that malawi!!!!
jamboss
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I thought you said some old time haze was the haze of hazes.
hazey grapes
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i tried durban once when i was given a bud. i liked it, especially more than all the afghani crap that was all you could get in the town i lived in in NY, but it's NOT as trippy as it's comparisons to thai rep. agreed. it's more like a mellow generic haze. the flavor from whatever version i got was totally legit though! like straight up smoking a licorice stick. it gave me dry heaves in between hits. i think that's why it's called poison. it was worth it though to get high again finally. just like the kali mist freebie i gave up bidding on weight for at $120 an eigth, i tried to score a bag of DP and couldn't.
i tested the MOZAMBIQUE poison freebie i got with my malawi's leaves as the one that made it was a male. it had less of a licorice taste and was more like the spice anise that licorice comes from mixed with some licorice tasting basil. that might be why it wasn't called durban, but i think someone growing that said it was visual. it could have been mulanje gold though. i got 2 freebies of that too as well as 2x more malawis from holy smokes. now they're mixing indicas in with their freebies, but eventually, you should be able to get 3x sativas again as i've seen that offer come and go twice.
i'm going to use my malawi, untested, as my male breeder hopefully knocking up lemony jack's cleaner, jack f7 & lemon skunk up with it along with sour cherry buddha's sister indica, haze skunk and a BX and save some pollen too. i'm also looking into getting C plus for a calio-o pheno hopefully for a lemon/orange haze. i always wanted to make a 3 way with malawi, burmese & cali-o. i bet it's do nice nice with fruity sweet haze too, but that strain's already a stretcher. i was so bummed when ALL of my plants got hot spot burned the night i forgot to turn my fan on. the malawi was hardest hit. i had to stress FOUR brothers to get to her too.
don't get me started on vancouver island burmese! 0% schwag!
i do like a pure sativa high, but i'm telling you, the hybrids in my signature are all as good as columbian gold to me in different ways.
JC2 trades a warm body stone and touchy feely thing for gold's light floaty sensation and is almost as trippy, it only takes 9 weeks. i can't stand the name jack the ripper though. THAT should be the real shit. JC2 is freakin' sexy shit though. give a babe a backrub on this, and she'll be all "don't stop" shucking her soaking panties. LOL no shit, i caught myself massaging my arms and chest on it and laughed my ass off once i realized i was imagining invisible ripples of tie dye color wherever i touched. i never tried the movie thing on it, but i bet it's not shabby there if it can make "something out of nothing" visuals. the stone is functional, but it's just a happy sense heightening stone i think most would enjoy. as much as i hate getting stoned, i will not complain about a little bit with all the rest of that fun stuff in trade.
haze skunk is more potent and possibly longer lasting with not stone buildup even after a month, though is less trippy, though i bet it performs better in a scrog as the top i took was best
sweet haze is less trippy, but not shabby, but has much stickier, bigger and fruitier buds for well rounded quality vs. gold's generic flavor and fluffy fuzz buds. it's really stretchy, but finishes in 9 weeks. i was already hard for this strain just smelling those fruitier than most hazes buds, but when it hit me with some trippiness most other strains exaggerate, i was grinning from ear to ear. i really need to compare my top 3 faves under the same conditions, along with malawi to pick favorites. if this strain has more trippiness in it's reserves, i'd like it more than JC2, especially as it's not at all stony.
8 miles high has a lighter trippy level, and like all of the others plenty of sativa euphoria. i love it for being mellow. it has a perfectly neutral energy balance that's totally stone free, but not racy either. you can do whatever you want as long as it's fun on it. it has a really cool "precise body control" effect that's similar to gold's light floaty effect, but more purposeful. it's a nice laid back 24/7 strain that loves music and dancing.
all of those make me more than happy enough, but i'm always looking for better, and once i have enough stash, i will start playing around with real sativas. i miss the 80s so much! the weed, music and overall VIBE were so much better than the stressed out disposable music and schwag appeal 21st century.
i still wonder if malawi will deliver the goods in trippy better than anything else. there's not a lot of reporting on that yet other than the aussie who talked more about creativity and motivation. i'll keep testing though... 17-24 week oldtimer's (purple) haze sounds awesome, i'd like to give mekong another try to see if it's less diluted than most hazes, and then there's columbians, panama & highland thai still, but the latter is just too fussy, and probably better suited to outdoors anyways.
i've asked a bunch of times for comparisons of hazes, so don't lose sleep if you don't get a direct answer. the impression i've gotten so far is that ace & gage green are the most legit, but holy smokes, cannabiogen & world of seeds have fans too.
i tested the MOZAMBIQUE poison freebie i got with my malawi's leaves as the one that made it was a male. it had less of a licorice taste and was more like the spice anise that licorice comes from mixed with some licorice tasting basil. that might be why it wasn't called durban, but i think someone growing that said it was visual. it could have been mulanje gold though. i got 2 freebies of that too as well as 2x more malawis from holy smokes. now they're mixing indicas in with their freebies, but eventually, you should be able to get 3x sativas again as i've seen that offer come and go twice.
i'm going to use my malawi, untested, as my male breeder hopefully knocking up lemony jack's cleaner, jack f7 & lemon skunk up with it along with sour cherry buddha's sister indica, haze skunk and a BX and save some pollen too. i'm also looking into getting C plus for a calio-o pheno hopefully for a lemon/orange haze. i always wanted to make a 3 way with malawi, burmese & cali-o. i bet it's do nice nice with fruity sweet haze too, but that strain's already a stretcher. i was so bummed when ALL of my plants got hot spot burned the night i forgot to turn my fan on. the malawi was hardest hit. i had to stress FOUR brothers to get to her too.
don't get me started on vancouver island burmese! 0% schwag!
i do like a pure sativa high, but i'm telling you, the hybrids in my signature are all as good as columbian gold to me in different ways.
JC2 trades a warm body stone and touchy feely thing for gold's light floaty sensation and is almost as trippy, it only takes 9 weeks. i can't stand the name jack the ripper though. THAT should be the real shit. JC2 is freakin' sexy shit though. give a babe a backrub on this, and she'll be all "don't stop" shucking her soaking panties. LOL no shit, i caught myself massaging my arms and chest on it and laughed my ass off once i realized i was imagining invisible ripples of tie dye color wherever i touched. i never tried the movie thing on it, but i bet it's not shabby there if it can make "something out of nothing" visuals. the stone is functional, but it's just a happy sense heightening stone i think most would enjoy. as much as i hate getting stoned, i will not complain about a little bit with all the rest of that fun stuff in trade.
haze skunk is more potent and possibly longer lasting with not stone buildup even after a month, though is less trippy, though i bet it performs better in a scrog as the top i took was best
sweet haze is less trippy, but not shabby, but has much stickier, bigger and fruitier buds for well rounded quality vs. gold's generic flavor and fluffy fuzz buds. it's really stretchy, but finishes in 9 weeks. i was already hard for this strain just smelling those fruitier than most hazes buds, but when it hit me with some trippiness most other strains exaggerate, i was grinning from ear to ear. i really need to compare my top 3 faves under the same conditions, along with malawi to pick favorites. if this strain has more trippiness in it's reserves, i'd like it more than JC2, especially as it's not at all stony.
8 miles high has a lighter trippy level, and like all of the others plenty of sativa euphoria. i love it for being mellow. it has a perfectly neutral energy balance that's totally stone free, but not racy either. you can do whatever you want as long as it's fun on it. it has a really cool "precise body control" effect that's similar to gold's light floaty effect, but more purposeful. it's a nice laid back 24/7 strain that loves music and dancing.
all of those make me more than happy enough, but i'm always looking for better, and once i have enough stash, i will start playing around with real sativas. i miss the 80s so much! the weed, music and overall VIBE were so much better than the stressed out disposable music and schwag appeal 21st century.
i still wonder if malawi will deliver the goods in trippy better than anything else. there's not a lot of reporting on that yet other than the aussie who talked more about creativity and motivation. i'll keep testing though... 17-24 week oldtimer's (purple) haze sounds awesome, i'd like to give mekong another try to see if it's less diluted than most hazes, and then there's columbians, panama & highland thai still, but the latter is just too fussy, and probably better suited to outdoors anyways.
i've asked a bunch of times for comparisons of hazes, so don't lose sleep if you don't get a direct answer. the impression i've gotten so far is that ace & gage green are the most legit, but holy smokes, cannabiogen & world of seeds have fans too.
cannabiscult
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sounds like you have a healthy obsession, very cool man good luck on the breeding. that malawi burmese cali-o sounds like a power house.
hazey grapes
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i don't trust any sources for burmese. that's OK though... jack herer etc. crosses do the same kind of thing... mellow & trippy. anothger strain that i'd love to get is agent orange, only without a name that's a celebration of murder that bothers me. it's orange flavored and trippy as/is. sounds like a perfect start, but ceres, i thing, C plus is supposed to be very orange flavored too.
i still have to test the malawi to see if it has an even trippier buzz than the best i know so far to keep working with it.
my DREAM strain is purple colored old timer's haze crossed with DJ shorts' purple and grape grape krush for a "hazey grapes" strain along the lines of the straight up grape tasting, under HALIDE, super cali haze freebie i tested that was very nice, especially for the flavor that stomped blueberry as far as i'm concerned, but probably THAT sucks because everyone's growing it under sodium for yiend and not quality. the SCH buzz was more like generic haze, but i still have some of that to test too. oh yeah, i want to knock a WoS NL5 coumbian up with malawi too. in theory, that should be way better than haze skunk which isn't shabby mind you.
i still have to test the malawi to see if it has an even trippier buzz than the best i know so far to keep working with it.
my DREAM strain is purple colored old timer's haze crossed with DJ shorts' purple and grape grape krush for a "hazey grapes" strain along the lines of the straight up grape tasting, under HALIDE, super cali haze freebie i tested that was very nice, especially for the flavor that stomped blueberry as far as i'm concerned, but probably THAT sucks because everyone's growing it under sodium for yiend and not quality. the SCH buzz was more like generic haze, but i still have some of that to test too. oh yeah, i want to knock a WoS NL5 coumbian up with malawi too. in theory, that should be way better than haze skunk which isn't shabby mind you.
cannabiscult
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agent orange is a huge producer and very orangy i have had it on a perpetual cycle for 3 years
OGEvilgenius
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I'd look into Tom Hill's Haze as well. Some amazing looking plants I've seen on grow reports and people report there is a very very potent 'acid pheno' to be found (approximately 5% of specimens, but please note, all haze's are very unstable).
If you had a gun to your head I'd pick the Neville's Haze personally. NLxHaze is an option too. I know it's 50/50, but it has some extremely haze dominant plants and is fairly legendary for a reason.
If you had a gun to your head I'd pick the Neville's Haze personally. NLxHaze is an option too. I know it's 50/50, but it has some extremely haze dominant plants and is fairly legendary for a reason.
Thanks for the info. It looks like I will be trying golden tiger. I have also heard about tom hills haze and was going to get it until i read the part where he says that only 5% are very potent. Thats just too low of percentage to be pheno hunting with such a long flower time. I heard about the jack and i have been there and done that. I didnt really find the jack the ripper plants that i had to be really of a sativa, well all but one were pretty much of a mix between sat and indica.
randude101
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I am currently growing the Colombian x Jamaican Lambsbread from USC. Sounds pretty trippy and old school
HazeHeaven
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I've heard a few people swear up and down that the Golden Tiger is about the most potent stuff you can get. High for the next morning type of shit. Supposed to really blow your mind. I shied away due to 14-16 week flowering time but I've heard its a REALLY mind-fucking experience.
randude101
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A lot of the long flowering sativas offer a very good and complex high. Much different than the high everyone is use to from years of indica dominated strains. A long flowering time doesn't guarantee an awesome high, but if you find the right plant or pheno you will not forget it. Not a lot of people get exposed to the old school indicas because of the rarity. The best way to get to try it is to roll the dice and grow it. That is what I am doing. My weed should be very fun and trippy and almost worth all the trouble.