Bombshell: The Real Reason Barack Obama And Michele Lost Their Law License.

squarepush3r

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http://beforeitsnews.com/obama/2012/06/bombshell-the-real-reason-barack-obama-and-michele-lost-their-law-license-2288275.html

Bombshell: The Real Reason Barack Obama And Michele Lost Their Law License.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:25



By Josey Wales


BY David Herold

I am reposting for those who have missed it. FORMER LAWYERS?
I knew they had both lost their law license, but I didn't know why until I read this.
This is 100% legit. I check it out at https://www.iardc.org/ Stands for Illinois Attorney Registration And Disciplinary Committee. It's the official arm of lawyer discipline in Illinois ; and they are very strict. (Talk about irony.) Even I, at the advanced age of almost 65, maintain (at the cost of approximately $600/year) my law license that I worked so hard and long to earn.
Big surprise.
Former Constitutional Law Lecturer and U.S. President Makes Up Constitutional Quotes During State Of The Union (SOTU) Address.
Consider this:
1. President Barack Obama, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, is no longer a "lawyer". He surrendered his license back in 2008 in order to escape charges he lied on his bar application. A "Voluntary Surrender" is not something where you decide "Gee, a license is not really something I need anymore, is it?" and forget to renew your license. No, a "Voluntary Surrender" is something you do when you've been accused of something, and you 'voluntarily surrender" your license five seconds before the state suspends you.
2 Michelle Obama "voluntarily surrendered" her law license in 1993. after a Federal Judge gave her the choice between surrendering her license or standing trial for Insurance fraud!
3. Facts.Source: http://jdlong.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/pres-barack-obama-editor-of-the-Harvard-law-review-has-no-law-license/
4. A senior lecturer is one thing, a fully ranked law professor is another. Barack Obama was NOT a Constitutional Law Professor at the University of Chicago .
5. The University of Chicago released a statement in March 2008 saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) "served as a professor" in the law school-but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed in 2008.
6. "He did not hold the title of Professor of Law," said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an Assistant Dean for Communications and Lecturer in Law at the University of Chicago School of Law.
Source: http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03/sweet_obama_did_hold_the_title.html ;
7. The former Constitutional Senior Lecturer (Obama) cited the U.S. Constitution the other night during his State of the Union Address. Unfortunately, the quote he cited was from the Declaration of Independence … not the Constitution.
8. The B-Cast posted the video: http://www.breitbart.tv/did-obama-confuse-the-constitution-with-the-declaration-of-independence/
9. Free Republic : In the State of the Union Address, President Obama said: "We find unity in our incredible diversity, drawing on the promise enshrined in our Constitution: the notion that we are all created equal.
10. Um, wrong citing, wrong founding document there Champ, I mean Mr. President. By the way, the promises are not a notion, our founders named them unalienable rights. The document is our Declaration of Independence and it reads:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
11. And this is the same guy who lectured the Supreme Court moments later in the same speech?
When you are a phony it's hard to keep facts straight. Keep this moving — educate others
 

squarepush3r

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http://jdlong.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/pres-barack-obama-editor-of-the-Harvard-law-review-has-no-law-license/

Pres. Barack Obama – Editor of the Harvard Law Review – Has No Law License???

May 15, 2009 by Johnny Alamo


I saw a note slide across the #TCOT feed on Twitter last night that mentioned Michelle Obama had no law license. This struck me as odd, since (a) she went to school to be a lawyer, and (b) she just recently held a position with the University of Chicago Hospitals as legal counsel — and that’s a pretty hard job to qualify for without a law license.
But being a licensed professional myself, i knew that every state not only requires licensure, they make it possible to check online the status of any licensed professional. So I did, and here’s the results from theARDC Website:

She “voluntarily surrendered” her license in 1993. Let me explain what that means. A “Voluntary Surrender” is not something where you decide “Gee, a license is not really something i need anymore, is it?” and forget to renew your license. No, a “Voluntary Surrender” is something you do when you’ve been accused of something, and you ‘voluntarily surrender” your license about five seconds before the state suspends (or disbars) you.
Here’s an illustration: I’m a nurse. At various times in my 28 years of nursing I’ve done other things when I got burned out; most notably a few years as a limousine driver; even an Amway salesman at one point. I always, always renewed my nursing license — simply becuase it’s easier to send the state $49.00 a month than to pay the $200, take a test, wate six weeks, etc., etc. . . I’ve worked (recently) in a Nursing Home where there was an 88 year old lawyer and a 95 year old physician. Both of them still had current licensures as well. They would never DREAM of letting their licenses lapse. I happen to know there is currently in the Indiana State Prison in Michigan City Indiana an inmate who is a licensed physician, convicted of murder when he chased the two burlars who entered his home and terrorized his family into the street and killed them. (And I can’t say i blame him for that, either.) This phisican still has an active medical license and still sees patients, writes prescriptions, etc all from inside the prison.
And he renews his medical licese every two years, too.
I tried looking up why she would “Voluntarily surrender” her licese, but Illinois does not have it’s 1993 records online.
But when I searched for “Obama”, I found this:

“Voluntarily retired” — what does that mean? Bill Clinton hung onto his law license until he was convicted of making a false statement in the Lewinsky case and had to “Voluntarily Surrender” his license too.
This is the former editor of the Harvard Law Review who doesn’t seem to give a crap about his law license.
Something else odd; while the Search feature brings up the names, any seaches for the Disciplinary actions ends quicky.
As in, Too Quickly. Less than a half-second quickly on a Search Engine that can take five seconds to Search for anything.
As in, “there’s a block on that information” kind of thing.
So we have the first Lawyer President and First Lady — who don’t actually have licenses to practice law.

There’s more to this story, I’m sure. I’ll let you know when I find it.

~~ACP~~
 

ginwilly

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It's sad that I know more about Casey Anthony than the Obama's.

I'm going to remain skeptical until this is verified, I'm sure the media will be all over this:roll:
 

BA142

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You guys are hilarious

Viral text claims President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama surrendered their Illinois law licenses to escape criminal prosecution.
Description: Forwarded email
Circulating since: June 2010
Status: Mixed (see details below)
Example:


Analysis: It's true that neither Barack nor Michelle Obama has an active law license authorizing them to practice law in the state of Illinois.
The Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission (www.iardc.org) lists President Obama's registration status as "Voluntarily retired." It lists Michelle Obama's status as "Voluntarily inactive."
However, it's not true that either of them surrendered their law license to avoid disciplinary action or criminal prosecution. Nor is it true, contrary to what has been claimed on literally thousands of anti-Obama blogs and websites, that the Obamas were "disbarred" or had their law licenses "revoked."
Neither the Illinois State Bar Association nor the ARDC lists any accusations of misconduct or disciplinary actions against the Obamas. According to a statement quoted by FactCheck.org, ARDC deputy administrator and chief counsel James Grogan says the Obamas were "never the subject of any public disciplinary proceedings."
Quite to the contrary, a notice on the website of the Illinois State Bar states that the Association is "proud" to have Barack and Michelle Obama as honorary members.
 

squarepush3r

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You guys are hilarious
The article and website shows they voluntarily surrendered their law liscenses (at separate times). Why would they do that?

“Voluntarily retired” — what does that mean? Bill Clinton hung onto his law license until he was convicted of making a false statement in the Lewinsky case and had to “Voluntarily Surrender” his license too.
 

BA142

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Look up Supreme Court Ruling 770 for clarification.....

edit: or I could just do it for you. There's a reason Clinton didn't do it.....

ARDC website: Prior to November 1, 1999, former Supreme Court Rule 770 provided for a proceeding in the Court for any voluntary transfer to inactive status, whether because of some incapacitating condition or solely as a matter of the lawyer’s preference because the lawyer would not be practicing law.
 

canndo

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. Keep this moving — educate others

We see the beginnings of a probably professional smear campaign masquerading as news. THis is the sort of non-grass roots, viral propaganda campaign that the right so loves. It has the robots, it has the thoughtless, unenlightened masses who will circulate this until it beomes "common knowlege" that the leftist MSM just never reports because - well they are all in the tank for Obama and that is the way they operate.

Such viral stories and e-mails are heavily biased but because it is some sort of e-mail, that's ok. It isn't countered by the left because it is under the radar but that's ok. There are rarely such things eminating from the left but that only means that the right is almost always on the up and up and really doesn't have anything to hide.

Right?
 

canndo

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You guys are hilarious

Hilarious, so that means you don't have any real evidence and factcheck.org is a leftist lying site that is only accurate when your preconceived understanding of reality comports with them, then, and only then, they are the bastion of truth.
 

squarepush3r

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We see the beginnings of a probably professional smear campaign masquerading as news. THis is the sort of non-grass roots, viral propaganda campaign that the right so loves. It has the robots, it has the thoughtless, unenlightened masses who will circulate this until it beomes "common knowlege" that the leftist MSM just never reports because - well they are all in the tank for Obama and that is the way they operate.

Such viral stories and e-mails are heavily biased but because it is some sort of e-mail, that's ok. It isn't countered by the left because it is under the radar but that's ok. There are rarely such things eminating from the left but that only means that the right is almost always on the up and up and really doesn't have anything to hide.

Right?
haha, good one, Obama invented the smear campaign. Romney tax returns anyone?
 

ginwilly

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http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/the-obamas-law-licenses/

Home • Ask FactCheck • The Obamas’ Law Licenses
[h=1]The Obamas’ Law Licenses[/h] Posted on June 14, 2012

Q: Did Barack and Michelle Obama “surrender” their law licenses to avoid ethics charges?
A: No. A court official confirms that no public disciplinary proceeding has ever been brought against either of them, contrary to a false Internet rumor. By voluntarily inactivating their licenses, they avoid a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees. Both could practice law again if they chose to do so.


Damn, I really wanted this one to be true too:twisted:
 

potroastV2

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Well, I "voluntarily surrendered" my Series 7 Securities License, and my Life & Disability Insurance License, because I was no longer working as a securities broker. Likewise, I don't think I still have my Microsoft MCSE or my Cisco CCNA, because I have not kept up with the dues and CE requirements. Just like a member of the BAR, which is what makes someone an attorney, if you don't pay up and satisfy the requirements, then you are no longer a member. If you are not working as an attorney, there is little reason to continue the membership.

:mrgreen:
 

canndo

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haha, good one, Obama invented the smear campaign. Romney tax returns anyone?

We see that the viral e-mail is patently false. so the viral e-mail was planted. It is possible that an individual with no affiliation with the rightist machine began the campaign but it is highly unlikely. We have seen these sorts of e-mails many times, and I have tracked down a number of them to at least close to the original sources and so far every time I have done this it goes to an extremist site that is well funded and seems to have motivation other than simple "education" of the masses. And of course, recipients of such viral messages tend to propagate them just as you have done, usually without further investigation. Squarepush? did you visit any of the fact checking organization or myth busting sites before you posted this?


So far as the Romney tax returns go. This was begun by the media and was not hidden or underground. Neither was it begun by the propaganda machine of the left. If you check those same fact checking organizations you will find that Romney has not released more than a year of tax returns - so the information is true. Conjecture about what is in those returns are not touted as some well hidden truth but is just that, conjecture. Now Reid's speculation on the senate floor may well have been prompted directly by the Obama campaign and it could be considered a smear but it is more a public conjecture by a public figure from a very public forum. That is far different than what you posted.
 

ginwilly

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Well, I "voluntarily surrendered" my Series 7 Securities License, and my Life & Disability Insurance License, because I was no longer working as a securities broker. Likewise, I don't think I still have my Microsoft MCSE or my Cisco CCNA, because I have not kept up with the dues and CE requirements.
:mrgreen:
Wowzers! I wonder if people realize how difficult just the Cisco cert is. Slacker!bongsmilie
 

canndo

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I just noticed the title of this thread - - "bombshell".



After a while you can begin to smell these things.
 

beenthere

New Member
We see the beginnings of a probably professional smear campaign masquerading as news. THis is the sort of non-grass roots, viral propaganda campaign that the right so loves.

Right?
Now I know you've claimed to be bipartisan, so let me hear you admit that the left is trying to smear Mitt Romney, portraying him as a tax cheater.
 
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