Obama's ability as president is just embarrassing.

[canndo]

Dude, save your breath, the economy flat out SUCKS and everyone knows it, PLEASE!

You said FAILING. I will not disagree that it sucks but it is no longer failing.


I notice that you seem incapable of responding to the other points.

That's good, there is hope.

 

[ginwilly]

The "economy" is a moving target that works better with inaction from central planners. What works in Idaho may not work in New York so trying a one size fits all policy actually hurts one of these groups, it depends on who is in charge as to who it helps. Uncertainty hurts most of all, we can't plan on shit if we can't predict what Washington is going to do, so money sits idle. The free market adjusts to economic factors at an infinitely faster rate than DC. Even as shitty as the policies have been for the past 12 years, we would recover if we knew the rules in place right now would be in place 5 years down the road.

I can't blame one party more than the other because both sides have stumbled in the name of re-election but I'm inclined to vote for the party that at least realizes this. The party that thinks DC drives the economy is naive and has no true understanding. They can hinder things sure, but to speed things along they need to simply get out of the way and have in place rules that are the same and consistent for all.

Starting a business now is a crap shoot. Should I plant corn or build a battery plant so I get subsidies? but if I start this and Obama loses then I can't compete. I could start a new drug company but the FDA won't let me compete because most of those people actually sit on pharmaceutical boards so they'll block me as I'm their competition.

A properly regulated free market would allow us to take off again but I don't trust either party to comply with this. I do however trust the democrats less based on their total lack of understanding of money. See the stimulus package we passed as proof of what they think creates jobs. Hey! how bout fixing roads and bridges? nah, we need to study the effects of alcohol on Chinese hookers.

 

[londonfog]

Except the economy isn't failing Beenthere.


Let's look at the facts for a moment.


Republican policies, actions or inactions precipitated our economic problems
Replicans have been obstucting any attempt by Obama to help move things along
Republicans are doing their best to mischaracterize Obama and his presidency thus far
Republicans are subverting and distorting our election process in a dozen states.


Two things should be clear:

1. Republicans don't have an idea or plan to put forth that hasn't already proved to be a failure
2. Republicans are interested only in gaining power and have no care for the state America is in.


Given all of this, why would any American vote for any Republican?

Because the Kenyan Muslim Obama is in office and they need to take the country back before we turn into a Communistic ,Fascist, Socialistic, Sharia law practicing nation.

 

[beenthere]

Because the Kenyan Muslim Obama is in office and they need to take the country back before we turn into a Communistic ,Fascist, Socialistic, Sharia law practicing nation.

Dude, this sentiment is exactly why the majority of independents will not vote this president into a second term, it's the failing policies and the far left's attitude that if you disagree with Obama, you're a racist!
Got common sense?

 

[londonfog]

Dude, this sentiment is exactly why the majority of independents will not vote this president into a second term, it's the failing policies and the far left's attitude that if you disagree with Obama, you're a racist!
Got common sense?

These are things we heard even before his policies were in place..Obama will win a second term because you people are not fooling anyone. Hell you guys having a hard time fooling yourselves.

your Avatar says it all...typical

 

[resinousflowers]

things will be worse under romney,just wait and see.i'll be sat here laughing at all you clowns who voted for him.

 

[althor]

Except the economy isn't failing Beenthere.


Let's look at the facts for a moment.


Republican policies, actions or inactions precipitated our economic problems
Replicans have been obstucting any attempt by Obama to help move things along
Republicans are doing their best to mischaracterize Obama and his presidency thus far
Republicans are subverting and distorting our election process in a dozen states.


Two things should be clear:

1. Republicans don't have an idea or plan to put forth that hasn't already proved to be a failure
2. Republicans are interested only in gaining power and have no care for the state America is in.


Given all of this, why would any American vote for any Republican?

Could you be more bias in your "facts".

First could be debated back and forth. For every policy you point to inorder to prove your point, a republican could point to a another to disprove it. So fact is not accurate.

Second, that is closest to a fact probably, but in this case it goes both ways. Easily provable from either side. Also, you have to consider Obama had a majority for the first 2 years of his presidency and his own party was blocking. 97-0 against his budget. Every single democrat voted against Obama's budget.


Third, its hardly debatable that Obama's entire campaign so far has been entirely based on "mischaracterizing Romney/Ryan" so thats just foolish to even list.

Fourth, Once again a very very debatable topic. Considering the amount of voter fraud in the past measures were needed. Any rational American should not see this is a big deal. You cant even cash your welfare check without ID.


As far as your 1.and 2.

Well, 1. that would assume you know every piece of legislation ever put forth. Which you dont so its just a ludicrous statement.
2. You can say that about every politician in America and be right alot more often than wrong. To place it only on one party shows over the top bias.

 

[UncleBuck]

One thing I have certainly noticed. On more and more sites, fewer and fewer people are defending Obama.

you know what i've NEVER noticed, anywhere, ever?

someone extolling the virtues of romney, and why he is a better candidate.

 

[UncleBuck]

I have noticed that trend also. A news story most large media didn't bother to report is the long lines of illegal applying for Obama's back door amnesty to get jobs, I assume the reason is because the feedback was 95% negative. It one thing giving amnesty is another thing to dump a million people on the system looking for jobs that we don't have.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/15/13297578-young-undocumented-immigrants-line-up-for-chance-to-legally-stay-work-in-us-under-new-deferral-program#comments

i recall how they kicked the illegals out of georgia and the unemployed flocked to the farm in droves for the good paying jobs there.

oh, wait, nevermind. the crops rotted in the field.

so close, sockie mcsocksuck. take the fist out of your ass and try again.

 

[UncleBuck]

But the failing economy will have a HUGE role this cycle and sorry, Romney doesn't have to be Reagan, that's an irrelevant analogy.

ya mean, the failing economy that romney had to tell GOP governors to downplay?

LOL!

good luck. add some nitrogen.

 

[UncleBuck]

Dude, this sentiment is exactly why the majority of independents will not vote this president into a second term, it's the failing policies and the far left's attitude that if you disagree with Obama, you're a racist!
Got common sense?

the guy whose avatar wants you to believe that obama is a communist is asking someone else if they have common sense.

the irony, it's thick. the fail, even thicker.

it's called nitrogen.

 

[UncleBuck]

Considering the amount of voter fraud in the past measures were needed.

i'm still waiting for a righty to document this epidemic.

they never, ever do.

 

[canndo]

the guy whose avatar wants you to believe that obama is a communist is asking someone else if they have common sense.

You gotta admit Beenthere, that was funny

 

[canndo]

Good point UB, I had never even considered that before, what sort of mindset does someone have to have to keep a particular anti-politician avatar beyond a few days?

 

[cannabineer]

Except the economy isn't failing Beenthere.


Let's look at the facts for a moment.


Republican policies, actions or inactions precipitated our economic problems
Replicans have been obstucting any attempt by Obama to help move things along
Republicans are doing their best to mischaracterize Obama and his presidency thus far
Republicans are subverting and distorting our election process in a dozen states.


Two things should be clear:

1. Republicans don't have an idea or plan to put forth that hasn't already proved to be a failure
2. Republicans are interested only in gaining power and have no care for the state America is in.


Given all of this, why would any American vote for any Republican?

While some Republicans don't believe these things, I suspect that most simply don't examine these things. Being a "good party voter" of any stripe means the leadership has done all that hard brainwork already. cn

 

[canndo]

While some Republicans don't believe these things, I suspect that most simply don't examine these things. Being a "good party voter" of any stripe means the leadership has done all that hard brainwork already. cn

so very very sad.


Scientific studies indicate that the more intelligent a right winger is, the more he will cling to his preconceived notions in the face of irrefutable evidence. We can see that unfold every day here in RIU Politics page.

Behold.

 

[londonfog]

the guy whose avatar wants you to believe that obama is a communist is asking someone else if they have common sense.

the irony, it's thick. the fail, even thicker.

it's called nitrogen.

and to think Beenthere would be the one to comment on this statement
"Because the Kenyan Muslim Obama is in office and they need to take the country back before we turn into a Communistic ,Fascist, Socialistic, Sharia law practicing nation."

and shows up with a that Avatar..hilarious and priceless

 

[cannabineer]

so very very sad.


Scientific studies indicate that the more intelligent a right winger is, the more he will cling to his preconceived notions in the face of irrefutable evidence. We can see that unfold every day here in RIU Politics page.

Behold.

You realize, don't you, that scientific studies are all from Satan. This level of tempting the righteous can only mean one thing: don't buy long-term debt instruments. cn

 

[beenthere]

You gotta admit Beenthere, that was funny

Ah no I don't, anyone that doesn't believe Obama is a Marxist is a moron.

 

[beenthere]

and to think Beenthere would be the one to comment on this statement
"Because the Kenyan Muslim Obama is in office and they need to take the country back before we turn into a Communistic ,Fascist, Socialistic, Sharia law practicing nation."

and shows up with a that Avatar..hilarious and priceless

The only thing that's hilarious, is you pretending to be a business owner!