AR-15 stands for assault rifle 15

cannabineer

cannabineer

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Correct. 3% of land mass contains most of the problem. Start dividing that 3% by red and blue and you will see its mostly a blue metro problem.

So a hefty majority of People see that you are simply trying to get them to take their "fair share" of your guilt because your policies are failing.

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Look at that stark drop when Brasil relaxed the shit out of their gun laws for citizens to defend themselves. Yet you are arguing for us to be on the left of that apex just like all your metro areas are.

Noone is buying what you're selling, which is 60% suicide mainly in urban areas with the strictest gun laws. Polish that turd all you want.
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does this explain all the gerrymandering? keep all the wrong Americans contained?

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Newly obtained records and e-mails show that Thomas Hofeller collected data about the voting patterns of Americans based on their race.
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cannabineer

cannabineer

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Oh so it's Right vs wrong then. Drop the brown shirt bullcrap and only use homicide data like the rest of the world because you're so decent and honest.

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an emotional lashing-out in response to a presentation of fact.

also, New South Wales? are we trying to gerrymander the world, Pinky?

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oops doubled. This

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Gerrymandering is the intentional practice of manipulating the boundaries of congressional districts to provide an unfair advantage for a specific party or group. The practice has increasingly created barriers to…
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Correct. 3% of land mass contains most of the problem. Start dividing that 3% by red and blue and you will see its mostly a blue metro problem.

So a hefty majority of People see that you are simply trying to get them to take their "fair share" of your guilt because your policies are failing.

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Look at that stark drop when Brasil relaxed the shit out of their gun laws for citizens to defend themselves. Yet you are arguing for us to be on the left of that apex just like all your metro areas are.

Noone is buying what you're selling, which is 60% suicide mainly in urban areas with the strictest gun laws. Polish that turd all you want.
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Ya sure Einstein! You really should try harder.
“Research in Population Health Metrics persuasively finds that much of the decline before 2017 can be attributed to weapons-collections programs begun in 2003. The parts of the country that removed guns from the streets in these collection programs actually saw fewer firearms deaths. To suggest that dropping homicide rates from the past few years can be attributed to Mr. Bolsonaro’s gun policies belies nearly 20 years of evidence to the contrary.”
 
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ActionianJacksonian

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Budley Doright said:
Ya sure Einstein! You really should try harder.
“Research in Population Health Metrics persuasively finds that much of the decline before 2017 can be attributed to weapons-collections programs begun in 2003. The parts of the country that removed guns from the streets in these collection programs actually saw fewer firearms deaths. To suggest that dropping homicide rates from the past few years can be attributed to Mr. Bolsonaro’s gun policies belies nearly 20 years of evidence to the contrary.”
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Aren't you just proving my point further though by using homicide and gun death synonymous though?

We can get rid of motorcycles and I'm sure motorcycle deaths will go away and not effect homicides at all.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Correct. 3% of land mass contains most of the problem. Start dividing that 3% by red and blue and you will see its mostly a blue metro problem.

So a hefty majority of People see that you are simply trying to get them to take their "fair share" of your guilt because your policies are failing.

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Look at that stark drop when Brasil relaxed the shit out of their gun laws for citizens to defend themselves. Yet you are arguing for us to be on the left of that apex just like all your metro areas are.

Noone is buying what you're selling, which is 60% suicide mainly in urban areas with the strictest gun laws. Polish that turd all you want.
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This is a typical right wing propagandist response.

Acting like the bullshit Republican legislating in the areas surrounding these cities (selling guns, over-policing, under funding schools, generations of racial segregation practices, pollution, sending their mentally challenged homeless population to, etc) is not a direct cause of much of the issues.

Keep on pretending like your stupid talking points is convincing anyone that is not already brainwashed by loser trolls like yourself, while trying to brand what others are saying.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Aren't you just proving my point further though by using homicide and gun death synonymous though?

We can get rid of motorcycles and I'm sure motorcycle deaths will go away and not effect homicides at all.
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I’m proving that you cherry pick your points, and if you’d actually do the research you would find there is more than “more guns = less gun crimes”, which is asinine …… just say’n. You may want to actually look at the various reasons why the murder rate went down, more guns is not the answer lol. Your attempt at the straw grasping is an obvious fail. Good point about the motorcycles though …….. pfffff.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Aren't you just proving my point further though by using homicide and gun death synonymous though?

We can get rid of motorcycles and I'm sure motorcycle deaths will go away and not effect homicides at all.
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please do not get rid of motorcycles. I'm old. Dead (homicide or otherwise) motorcyclists account for a large number of organ donations. "Save an old person, ride a motorcycle"
 
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ActionianJacksonian

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Budley Doright said:
I’m proving that you cherry pick your points, and if you’d actually do the research you would find there is more than “more guns = less gun crimes”, which is asinine …… just say’n. You may want to actually look at the various reasons why the murder rate went down, more guns is not the answer lol. Your attempt at the straw grasping is an obvious fail. Good point about the motorcycles though …….. pfffff.
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Speaking of cherry picking:

Budley Doright said:
Ya sure Einstein! You really should try harder.
“Research in Population Health Metrics persuasively finds that much of the decline before 2017 can be attributed to weapons-collections programs begun in 2003. The parts of the country that removed guns from the streets in these collection programs actually saw fewer firearms deaths. To suggest that dropping homicide rates from the past few years can be attributed to Mr. Bolsonaro’s gun policies belies nearly 20 years of evidence to the contrary.”
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As we can clearly see in the data, homicide was on the rise as your "research" indicates "gun deaths" was on the decline from 03-17. Then a massive drop as regulations were lifted to allow law abiding citizens to defend themselves from homicides.



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I never said more guns= less crimes. That was your assumption. Our gun debate is about homicide. Look at the post above from the Rights grabbers. "Public safety", "the children" and such. These are homicide terms yet they include suicide in the data.

The only point is what you just proved, that grabbing guns did not reduce the homicide rate in Brasil, the opposite happened. As regulations relaxed in 17 for law abiding citizens there was an instant drop.

So the murder rate went went down because more citizens had access to the best defense tool.

Yet you cry that gun deaths went down.? Who cares? What effect did that have on murder rates? None.

So pick any tool. Toothbrush deaths will go down if you ban toothbrushes, but what effect does it have on murder rate?
 
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ActionianJacksonian

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cannabineer said:
oh and

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Your "assault weapon" ban is about to be ruled Unconstitutional in your state. I suggest a nice Carolina example for you from FN if you can afford it or the Palmetto State Armory with an FN barrel at least.

You could even get an AR-10 in .308 which is just a modern version of the venerable M1A with the same capacity as was available since 1945.
 
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