Liquid nutes (fox farm trio vs. General hydroponics flora series)

Rootbound420

Rootbound420

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Wizzlebiz said:
Both are a pain in the ass.

I suggest top dressing with Dr Earth or something equivalent to that.
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Im doing a dr earth run as well but am just experimenting with a few. Dr earth im doing with happy frog soil and liquids im doing with either cocoloco or pro mix. Just like to hear experiences of others results whom ran the same thing or close to.
 
Rootbound420

Rootbound420

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Rootbound420 said:
Im doing a dr earth run as well but am just experimenting with a few. Dr earth im doing with happy frog soil and liquids im doing with either cocoloco or pro mix. Just like to hear experiences of others results whom ran the same thing or close to.
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A comparison of living soil to soilless and see which i like more. I honestly like the thought of being in control 100% with the soilless. I know exactly what the girls have eaten and when plus i check on mine like 400 times as day as i work from home so i have the time to mix and perfect nutes and what not.
 
Rootbound420

Rootbound420

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Lenin1917 said:
Both are fine. The brand of fertilizers you use is literally the least important part of growing.
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Agreed about the brand name. I have been reading and saw a lot of people stating they use the GH over the FF because it is water soluble and is cheaper and easier to get but i can get both at the same price and easy as they are stocked in the hydroponic shop down the road from me. Just seeing if anyone has experience on the two.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Rootbound420 said:
Im doing a dr earth run as well but am just experimenting with a few. Dr earth im doing with happy frog soil and liquids im doing with either cocoloco or pro mix. Just like to hear experiences of others results whom ran the same thing or close to.
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Flora trio. Run it with the Lucas formula. It works great.
 
GroBud

GroBud

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Dry organic amendments

You only use once a month and dont need to ph. No salt build up, no nutrient build up and dont need to water to run off, dont need to flush to prevent build up.
 
Lenin1917

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Not what they asked. I use dry amendments, I’ve used salts. None of this is hard. If you’re flushing before harvest you’re wrong and it doesn’t matter if you’re using salts or organic inputs.
 
GroBud

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Lenin1917 said:
Not what they asked. I use dry amendments, I’ve used salts. None of this is hard. If you’re flushing before harvest you’re wrong and it doesn’t matter if you’re using salts or organic inputs.
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I was giving a easier method to look into. If you want to continue to use liquid nutrients that's your choice for people who dont understand organics or are unaware of the use vs liquids that's good information, especially as a active member and more than likely a new grower. Merly giving information to a new grower that doesn't know any better than to use what the internet tells them is easiest.

Their question was which one of those liquids are better, what do you choose between dog shit or cat shit. I choose neither so I gave my opinion

Not saying those nutrients are shit just giving a example
No, no nutrient regiment is difficult the difference is everything you have to do to liquids vs nothing to dry amendments

Theres never a need to flush at harvest, you will have build up using liquids if you dont give hefty runoffs, if you dont give hefty run offs you will need to flush. Who said anything about flushing before harvest? Not what I was implying. If you dont think salts or nutrients will build up without giving adequate runoff, I doubt you used liquids for a good amount of time or properly. That's common knowledge to give runoff using liquids to aid in preventing salt and nutrient buildup, especially for beginner growers without a firm understanding of plants needs and nutrients used.
 
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GroBud

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I used this chart when using fox farms, i didn't feed by amounts suggested or 1/4 whatever. Just fed by ppms. Started feeding either when plants started to fade bottom up or when ppm level dropped below suggested ppm amount on chart. Getting periodic runoff ppm readings will let you know how much plants are eating or stacking up allowing you to cut back on food before toxicity or increase before deficiency until you get a feel for the plants.
 

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ej0417

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GroBud said:
I used this chart when using fox farms, i didn't feed by amounts suggested or 1/4 whatever. Just fed by ppms. Started feeding either when plants started to fade bottom up or when ppm level dropped below suggested ppm amount on chart. Getting periodic runoff ppm readings will let you know how much plants are eating or stacking up allowing you to cut back on food before toxicity or increase before deficiency until you get a feel for the plants.
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How do you know when PPM levels have dropped? Thanks!
 
GroBud

GroBud

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ej0417 said:
How do you know when PPM levels have dropped? Thanks!
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By runoff readings as I mentioned. Cant flush the plant out to get a good runoff reading. You want as little of fresh water as possible to mix with soil. Water a little let seep water a little let seep. Until water starts barely dripping from pot. Catch that water and only enough to stick a probe in to get a reading. Works with ph as well if you're already getting a ppm reading and dont want to do a slurry test.
 
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