pH up question
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Alter Jean
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Not familiar with tiger bloom. What is the starting PH of the water?
Anyways it should be fine. Not sure why they add the coloring.
Madd Farmer makes a better, clear PH up & down if you want to try that next time.
Dreminen169
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With promix you wanna be between 5.8pH-6.5pH & yes fox farms looks brown & murky. It’s all good
Alter Jean
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Pretty sure he is talking about General Hydro PH up. They add Blue I've never bought it for that reason
twentyeight.threefive
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How much pH up could you possibly be using to change the color of your feed?
I only use pH down and my feed has never turned orange or murky. Looks like crystal clear water when mixed.
Edit: For clarification I don't use the same feed.
I only use pH down and my feed has never turned orange or murky. Looks like crystal clear water when mixed.
Edit: For clarification I don't use the same feed.
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Alter Jean
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When hydro organic, it will drop your feed significantly. Often people won't wait for it to stabilize so they add lots of PH up to hit their target.
If it's not fed to the plants right after they PH it there - When the nutrients do stabilize the PH is significantly higher.
I'm guessing he's mixing everything at the same time which will require lots of PH up which will change the color.
Hopefully it doesn't sit for long.
Twenty Whatever your thing is (really long username) You're probably running synthetic fertilizer. You won't ever need a PH up bottle. Probably a few tbsp of PH down. I am not sure about Tiger Bloom.
Dreminen169
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Fox farms comes out like that, it’s what I used to use. It’s all good
Star Dog
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I use synthetic (canna A+b) and I absolutely need ph up.
Make your own pH up it's usually cheaper and better
You use Potassium Bicarbonate. I recommend mixing it yourself. This is what I bought (in 2017) I still have most of it left. I get a small amount of clumping but it easily comes apart with a little push with my measuring spoon
Potassium Bicarbonate is a white, crystalline powder, I believe GH adds the colors so when you're in a rush and you have stained labels you don't grab the wrong one.
You use Potassium Bicarbonate. I recommend mixing it yourself. This is what I bought (in 2017) I still have most of it left. I get a small amount of clumping but it easily comes apart with a little push with my measuring spoon
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Potassium Bicarbonate is a white, crystalline powder, I believe GH adds the colors so when you're in a rush and you have stained labels you don't grab the wrong one.
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jondamon
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I’m running dutch pro hydro coco grow and bloom and both need pH down I haven’t used any up for a good long while lol.
tap pH 7.6 once nutrients are added by only goes down to 7.2.
If I have an oops moment with pH (doesn’t happen often as I make a pH down solution of 20ml Down and 80ml water) and use this to adjust slowly.
but if I do go down too far I use potassium silicat to increase the pH.
However if my solution drops below 5pH or above 8pH I remake the entire solution incase of precipitation of nutrients that could fall out of suspension at those pH ranges.
Alter Jean
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I have never used A + B my feeds are 5 parts.
I have two styles though one requires PH up and one PH down. Synthetics generally don't drop the PH like organics
Alter Jean
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Bingo, nicely stated.
I hate re-mixing.... Sometimes some ash will float into the res, I get pretty upset.
Hi Jon, I've never had mine precip out and I've dropped her into the 3's. Now I use GH Flora so maybe they were made for university students mistakes but I just add a larger glug of my Potassium Bicarbonate solution.
Star Dog
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Oddly enough Jon I've only needed it for the last 1.5/2 years, I've almost used a bottle of down to 1/3rd a bottle of up, but now it's only up I'm needing?
PH 7.2 at the tap.
jondamon
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Usually it would accumulate as solids in the bottom of your mix etc.
I must admit I’ve never had it happen that way either but if my pH does swing beyond the 5 and 8 I tend to remix just incase.
I read an article a while ago about precip “could” happen when below, I think it stated 4 and 8.
but like I said I rarely make those mistakes as my pH down would need about half a bottle to get to that pH lol.
I watch my res for 'silting' and haven't had it and have dropped my pH low. The only time I silted my res was when I added Silica without enough solution, bam instant precipitation.
osowhom
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its the GH blue stuff the reason i am using it was my last few grows started dying in late flower when i finally got a good meter my feed was around 4.0 i figured i would try the ph thing and i mix 20 ml ff tigerbloom and maybe 2 mg of calmag in a gallon of store bought spring water i always use bottled water i only added about 30 ml of ph up and shook the jug up waited 5 minutes and got a reading around 6.8 i have 3 plants just now flipped today maybe i will do 1 plant without it and see if it even matters also on my last grows i started adding crap like fish fertilizer and dr earth 222 this time strictly tiger bloom apparently the strain i am running can handle a lot of vitamins is what my mentor who gave me the plants said and i had a great run with them once so i know its possible thanks for the input i will shoot for 6.5
osowhom
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i mix it altogether but from seperate bottles