Is it time to switch? - Scrog almost filled

vorus

vorus

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These girls are in the 10th week of veg (they got stunted at some point so a little late to grow this much I know)...
I've got 6x Incredible Bulk strains under this net, but the empty area in the lower right couldn't recover well from the stunt so basically 5 girls with 1 weirdo :)

Almost all the holes are filled with tops as you can see and I'm currently having a hard time finding empty space for new tops. Some parts are overcrowded, some parts could have been better. And I'm afraid I'll be in trouble with the stretch in early flower. What do you guys think?

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I tried to lollipop as much as I could but I can't really reach further backside of the tent AND some of my leaves are showing some symptoms which I can't figure if burn - deficiency or lockout... so I guess I'll just keep under the net like this:
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And this is the one under the empty area, I'm taking my chances with her and hoping to get like 40-50 grams in the end maybe?
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I'm planning to give them a 36 hours dark period before 12/12... I foliar'd them with B-52 one last time in veg.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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HAHAHA
Flip to 12/12
No darkness cycle needed
Great job filling that screen but stretch might be wild

You can fill in the rest during stretch
 
vorus

vorus

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Herb & Suds said:
HAHAHA
Flip to 12/12
No darkness cycle needed
Great job filling that screen but stretch might be wild

You can fill in the rest during stretch
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Why you laughin man, for my dark cycle plan? :D
I’ve read that it helps for a faster switch... but I’m a noob so what do I know? Lol

Yeah the stretch bit frightens me a lot actually... I’m afraid I might be sorry for not adding a second layer of net.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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vorus said:
Why you laughin man, for my dark cycle plan? :D
I’ve read that it helps for a faster switch... but I’m a noob so what do I know? Lol

Yeah the stretch bit frightens me a lot actually... I’m afraid I might be sorry for not adding a second layer of net.
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I'm laughing because most of the guys trying SCROG's for the first time either under fill the net or try and put a net on top of the plant...

You did a great job the trick is as it stretches just keep weaving branches and bud sites where you have blanks
It's gonna be a beautiful thing
 
A

AnOldGardener

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Anytime!
vorus said:
Dude thanks a lot, that makes me very happy to hear. Cheers!
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Anytime!

one thing: don’t worry about the leaves that yellow/die under the plant. They’ll turn brown and wither, which helps the plant recoup the energy/water/nutrients.

You may find benefit in a second screen about 4” above the first, to help tie during stretch.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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AnOldGardener said:
Anytime!

Anytime!

one thing: don’t worry about the leaves that yellow/die under the plant. They’ll turn brown and wither, which helps the plant recoup the energy/water/nutrients.

You may find benefit in a second screen about 4” above the first, to help tie during stretch.
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No
All the screen does is keep the canopy even
He can bend and twist those stems all he needs to
Even putting two buds in every hole
A second screen this late would do nothing good
 
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AnOldGardener

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Herb & Suds said:
No
All the screen does is keep the canopy even
He can bend and twist those stems all he needs to
Even putting two buds in every hole
A second screen this late would do nothing good
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I just know I could have used one. I had a big stretch in my grow, but didn’t have anything to bend and tie it to—except the net it had left behind.

If I could have guided it along a screen, I think I could have gotten better yields overall because the lights (Led)could have been closer

I ended up having to make a pretty long run to a side-rail

In addition, I’m sure that some heavier producing strains may need the physical support — cantilevered mass needs something to resist that force.

But—you clearly have more experience than me, so I’d love to hear your suggestions to alternatives
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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AnOldGardener said:
I just know I could have used one. I had a big stretch in my grow, but didn’t have anything to bend and tie it to—except the net it had left behind.

If I could have guided it along a screen, I think I could have gotten better yields overall because the lights (Led)could have been closer

I ended up having to make a pretty long run to a side-rail

In addition, I’m sure that some heavier producing strains may need the physical support — cantilevered mass needs something to resist that force.

But—you clearly have more experience than me, so I’d love to hear your suggestions to alternatives
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You squeeze the stems where you want to bend
Sometimes they even snap but that is what tape is for
I use ties on all the points on the netting so it doesn't move
I also don't recommend multiple plants or even pheno's
As finish times vary and I have no interest in sitting there watching a half full screen for a few extra weeks
If you are having trouble with support
You need to build a 3/4" PVC frame
It will hold up any plant
And this is one plant in a 3 gallon pot IMG_0148_5.JPG
As they say
 
vorus

vorus

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AnOldGardener said:
Anytime!

Anytime!

one thing: don’t worry about the leaves that yellow/die under the plant. They’ll turn brown and wither, which helps the plant recoup the energy/water/nutrients.

You may find benefit in a second screen about 4” above the first, to help tie during stretch.
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I didn't mean the yellowing under the screen but I have been seeing yellowing/burning(?) all over at random leaves all through the veg... it seems to get kind of better but I'm not really sure it's over yet. That worries me a bit... but let's see, I'm keeping my fingers crossed to make it through flowering.

As for the second screen, I'm hoping to get things under control with the super cropping method that @Herb & Suds explained because I can no longer add another screen during this grow in that tight space. But I had the same idea you mentioned that it might be needed in case plants decide to get extra stretchy and the buds might fall and break if they get too thick or large (fingers crossed for that), so a second net would support when you can't anymore bend them during late flowering.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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vorus said:
I didn't mean the yellowing under the screen but I have been seeing yellowing/burning(?) all over at random leaves all through the veg... it seems to get kind of better but I'm not really sure it's over yet. That worries me a bit... but let's see, I'm keeping my fingers crossed to make it through flowering.

As for the second screen, I'm hoping to get things under control with the super cropping method that @Herb & Suds explained because I can no longer add another screen during this grow in that tight space. But I had the same idea you mentioned that it might be needed in case plants decide to get extra stretchy and the buds might fall and break if they get too thick or large (fingers crossed for that), so a second net would support when you can't anymore bend them during late flowering.
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If they break there is always duct tape
 
vorus

vorus

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Herb & Suds said:
You squeeze the stems where you want to bend
Sometimes they even snap but that is what tape is for
I use ties on all the points on the netting so it doesn't move
I also don't recommend multiple plants or even pheno's
As finish times vary and I have no interest in sitting there watching a half full screen for a few extra weeks
If you are having trouble with support
You need to build a 3/4" PVC frame
It will hold up any plant
And this is one plant in a 3 gallon pot View attachment 4903885
As they say
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That is a single plant?! Wow... it looks incredible! :) How much did that weigh in the end?
 
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