Booming economy. Winning!

Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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HashBucket said:
Yea, ok, he said it.
Thanks for providing the link.

Highly suspect .. MSNBC and all, but ... doesn't matter who filmed it ... He said it.
I think he's trying to figure out what they talking about, agreeing that it would be best to take dangerous weapons from crazy people before they hurt someone.

Kind of like impounding the car of a drunk driver on the spot.

I am very suspicious of gov't doing anything to limit the freedoms of citizens ... BUT, in this instance, I think that it is a good power to give our gov't - at least until they abuse the power.
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FFS, first it’s no way he would say that, not our great president. Then it’s, oh that’s a good thing then. And you accuse the left of unwavering blind allegiance.......sad.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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HashBucket said:
China's thievery triggered Trumps response which triggered a recession in manufacturing this year.
Why you wanna lay down and spread em for China, comrade?
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When Trump withdrew from TPP, he abandoned the regional partners that would help give us leverage on China to go it alone. His 'gut' has cost us a lot in the negotiations.
Serious Weeds said:
www.google.com

Cramer: Like or hate Trump, 'these are the best numbers of our lives' on jobs

CNBC's Jim Cramer says no matter your view on President Trump there's no denying we're living in the best labor market in more than a generation.
www.google.com www.google.com
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'In Cramer we trust"
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/m0dbcb/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-in-cramer-we-trust

Trump main economic advice is from the morons that conned average Americans into losing their asses during the Great Recessions. And he has them out again touting the same nonsense that led to the collapse.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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kgp said:
Not at all. This was sarcasm.

I would like to see everyone get a good job, educate themselves with schooling or trade, make enough money to take care of their families. Pay their bills and have money left over to save or spend on the things they want.

Take out student loans if needed, pay them back.. Don't rely on welfare and be better than that.

In my opinion welfare makes people dependant on a government that will do exactly as you said, keep them living in poverty and uneducated. Voting for politicians for freebies. Get up everyday, work hard, pay your bills, support your family. Live a good life.
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That is the dumbest shit I ever heard.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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kgp said:
Likewise..

The sad reality is that most of you would rather see the USA fail, so you can blame it on Trump, then to see us do well and help millions of americans.
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the sad reality is that fucking asholes like you can't see that trumps policies are just setting us all up for a FUCKING SPECTACULAR market crash in the near future...i'm not even going to try explaining the first thing about economics to you, i'm just going to tell you that trump's "economic plan" is no plan at all, because he doesn't have a clue what the fuck he is doing. i've yet to see one economist say he's doing one good thing for the national or the global economy....and when those things start to falter from his fuckery, all the little benefits you've seen so far will not come close to covering the cost of feeding your family....
and its than...then and than are two different words...learn how to use the language you're using to argue your point
 
Serious Weeds

Serious Weeds

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Budley Doright said:
But it is failing and has been and I for one fail to see how this is not blatantly obvious. No longer is your country looked up to as the world leader. I’m pretty sure it’s despite Trump that the economy has not crashed and I doubt anyone needs that to happen to blame Trump for relegating your countries leaders to the likes of a 3rd world authoritarian regime he loves to praise. Your reasonings are “he says it the way it is”. Umm no, he lies and says ridiculous shit. “He’s helped the economy”, umm no again, look at the real numbers. “We’re more respected by the world”, ya, no again, he’s is probably on his 5th Kleenex box after the NATO summit, “fuck you guys, I’m going home”, “Stop laughing at me”.
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By no measure is it failing dumbass feel free to use the resources available to you to look it up. Doing better now then at any point in my life and I am not the only one look at the facts.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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kgp said:
Not at all. This was sarcasm.

I would like to see everyone get a good job, educate themselves with schooling or trade,
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The whole thing is, people are not able to educate themselves, they get educated by the work of others. This should always be available for people to be able to contribute more to our society. And that is public funding.
kgp said:
make enough money to take care of their families. Pay their bills and have money left over to save or spend on the things they want.
Take out student loans if needed, pay them back.. Don't rely on welfare and be better than that.
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And what about when they do all that, get sick and lose everything? What do you think we gain as a society by just leaving giant holes in our social net that allows those people to lose everything?
kgp said:
In my opinion welfare makes people dependant on a government that will do exactly as you said, keep them living in poverty and uneducated. Voting for politicians for freebies. Get up everyday, work hard, pay your bills, support your family. Live a good life.
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So are you still dependent on welfare you had as a kid, because that is what it sounds like you are saying?

Better yet, let's do an exercise.

1. How much money do you think your mother got in welfare while you were a kid, shouldn't be hard to estimate those 18 years.

2. Then look at the taxes you have paid since you have been working, easy to find too.

Once you have both numbers, subtract (2) from (1), is it positive or negative?

Around 2009 I noticed a lot of the junk economics that were getting pushed by the 'right' wing propaganda trolls, this is the foundation for a lot of the arguments about government programs. They trick people into thinking too short term.
 
Serious Weeds

Serious Weeds

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the sad reality is that fucking asholes like you can't see that trumps policies are just setting us all up for a FUCKING SPECTACULAR market crash in the near future...i'm not even going to try explaining the first thing about economics to you, i'm just going to tell you that trump's "economic plan" is no plan at all, because he doesn't have a clue what the fuck he is doing. i've yet to see one economist say he's doing one good thing for the national or the global economy....and when those things start to falter from his fuckery, all the little benefits you've seen so far will not come close to covering the cost of feeding your family....
and its than...then and than are two different words...learn how to use the language you're using to argue your point
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"This is the best number I've ever seen in my life," Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. "Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it's a blessing." He added, "I don't see inflation. I don't see recession."

Cramer said the strong U.S. job market is going to allow America to win the trade war with China. "The president can walk away from the table with this number." He added: "In the end, the Chinese are going to have to put jobs here."

"People don't want to say good things" about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on "Mad Money," telling investors: "Don't let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks."
 
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christopher jordan

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Serious Weeds said:
"This is the best number I've ever seen in my life," Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. "Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it's a blessing." He added, "I don't see inflation. I don't see recession."

Cramer said the strong U.S. job market is going to allow America to win the trade war with China. "The president can walk away from the table with this number." He added: "In the end, the Chinese are going to have to put jobs here."

"People don't want to say good things" about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on "Mad Money," telling investors: "Don't let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks."
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Jim Cramer is a corrupt former hedge fund manager who manipulated the price of stocks when his fund was short. Scumbag! But I think you should listen to him and dump it all into small cap stocks. Idiot.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Serious Weeds said:
"This is the best number I've ever seen in my life," Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. "Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it's a blessing." He added, "I don't see inflation. I don't see recession."

Cramer said the strong U.S. job market is going to allow America to win the trade war with China. "The president can walk away from the table with this number." He added: "In the end, the Chinese are going to have to put jobs here."

"People don't want to say good things" about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on "Mad Money," telling investors: "Don't let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks."
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Irrational exhuberance when combined with mass-self delusion is not the best time to listen to proven con artists.


Worth the 5 minutes:
 
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christopher jordan

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Serious Weeds said:
"This is the best number I've ever seen in my life," Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. "Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it's a blessing." He added, "I don't see inflation. I don't see recession."

Cramer said the strong U.S. job market is going to allow America to win the trade war with China. "The president can walk away from the table with this number." He added: "In the end, the Chinese are going to have to put jobs here."

"People don't want to say good things" about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on "Mad Money," telling investors: "Don't let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks."
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The only number in the economy you can point to is unemployment,Because all the other numbers are not that good. Who gives a shit about low wage and temporary jobs. He's not winning anything. Trade war is costly bullshit, gutting manufacturing here in the U.S
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Serious Weeds said:
By no measure is it failing dumbass feel free to use the resources available to you to look it up. Doing better now then at any point in my life and I am not the only one look at the facts.
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Did you look at the context of my post? Are you actually that retarded (I try not to use that word much) that you didn’t see I was talking about perception and not economy. Yup he likes the uneducated and stupid, there is a reason for that ....... dumbass.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Serious Weeds said:
By no measure is it failing dumbass feel free to use the resources available to you to look it up. Doing better now then at any point in my life and I am not the only one look at the facts.
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Gdp 1.9%

Market growth 5% over two years

Job gains down from Obama and falling

Manufacturing in recession

Feds and government pumping tons of money into economy to stave off the coming recession
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Serious Weeds said:
"This is the best number I've ever seen in my life," Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. "Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it's a blessing." He added, "I don't see inflation. I don't see recession."

Cramer said the strong U.S. job market is going to allow America to win the trade war with China. "The president can walk away from the table with this number." He added: "In the end, the Chinese are going to have to put jobs here."

"People don't want to say good things" about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on "Mad Money," telling investors: "Don't let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks."
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cramer is your financial guru?.....cramer?....really?......a talking head who can't keep a job in a real financial institute, so he goes on tv and talks shit about all the people who disagreed with him his whole career? people who actually still work in the financial industry?
here's what real economist think about cramer....
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2009/apr/08/cramer-roubini-mad-money-bear-sterns

https://www.danablankenhorn.com/2007/02/jim_cramer_is_n.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/20/cramer-taps-into-the-theory-of-historys-greatest-economist-to-get-ahead-in-a-donald-trump-world.html

a cramer quote.....“Looking at the numbers, the market has actually done pretty well under Obama, but, again, this is not about the numbers, it is about the narrative we tell ourselves,” Cramer said. .....a true trump economist, it's not about the numbers, it's about the bullshit we tell people about the numbers....
 
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christopher jordan

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Serious Weeds said:
"This is the best number I've ever seen in my life," Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. "Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it's a blessing." He added, "I don't see inflation. I don't see recession."

Cramer said the strong U.S. job market is going to allow America to win the trade war with China. "The president can walk away from the table with this number." He added: "In the end, the Chinese are going to have to put jobs here."

"People don't want to say good things" about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on "Mad Money," telling investors: "Don't let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks."
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There are way more important numbers.Just like a rightwing con to take credit for the other guy's work. Job growth we have now started under Clinton. We've been addiing the same numbers of jobs that we did under Obama. Trump hasn't passed anything accept a budjet busting 2 trillion tax cut to the rich. Seriously how do you figure he's contributed anything to the economy. He bitched about interest rates. Not a good sign.
 
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waktoo

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Beginning in 2010, data and stat's show that the US economy was well on it's way to arriving at it's present state of affair well before Trump took over as president. No one with a shred of intelligence thinks Trump "turned the economy around" from "devastation" in less than two years. It's impossible.

Thanks Obama!
 
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