Brown sugar flush.

[kkt3]

Watched a great vid by the Mendo dope boys and they mentioned flushing with brown sugar. Anyone wanna offer feedback about this?

 

[Kingrow1]

Sugar can only be uptaken by the plant in tiny amounts in this form and past that it will cause salinity i think is the correct word.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Watched a great vid by the Mendo dope boys and they mentioned flushing with brown sugar. Anyone wanna offer feedback about this?

I would like to know what that's supposed to achieve. Did the Mendo dope boys mention that?

 

[WeedFreak78]

I'm assuming it was in soil? Sugars, or carbs in general, such as molasses, brown sugar, honey, etc. are used to feed the soil biology, and there debate about whether that's even beneficial*, the plant doesn't directly use it. Using it during a "flush" then brings up a few questions. If they're using carbs to feed the soil, they're presumably running a living soil with organic inputs. If that's the case, why are they flushing? Conversely, if they're running synthetic nutes why are they feeding the soil? The synthetics should decimate the micro herd.

*Plants exude carbs. There's a hypothesis that adding easier to consume simple carbs, such as refined sugars, to the soil actually pulls the microbiology mass away from the roots.

 

[3rd Monkey]

I'm assuming it was in soil? Sugars, or carbs in general, such as molasses, brown sugar, honey, etc. are used to feed the soil biology, and there debate about whether that's even beneficial*, the plant doesn't directly use it. Using it during a "flush" then brings up a few questions. If they're using carbs to feed the soil, they're presumably running a living soil with organic inputs. If that's the case, why are they flushing? Conversely, if they're running synthetic nutes why are they feeding the soil? The synthetics should decimate the micro herd.

*Plants exude carbs. There's a hypothesis that adding easier to consume simple carbs, such as refined sugars, to the soil actually pulls the microbiology mass away from the roots.

Sounds dumb even without logic in it to me lol. I learned something though, so bless your heart.

 

[xtsho]

Waste of brown sugar.

 

[hotrodharley]

"Synthetic" nutes do not kill bacteria. Beneficial ones or bad ones. They don't know the difference between phosphorus from a bottle or a lump of chickenshit. This is an invitation for insects.

 

[3rd Monkey]

"Synthetic" nutes do not kill bacteria. Beneficial ones or bad ones. They don't know the difference between phosphorus from a bottle or a lump of chickenshit. This is an invitation for insects.

Prior to this, I was under the impression that synthetic nutes do not kill microbes, but they can't feed on them either, so they die anyway. Fact or fiction?

 

[Chunky Stool]

Plants make sugar.
Near the end of flower, plants are dying and stop feeding the mycorrhizal fungi, so feeding some sugar does help sustain soil biology.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Prior to this, I was under the impression that synthetic nutes do not kill microbes, but they can't feed on them either, so they die anyway. Fact or fiction?

Synthetic nutes do not kill microbes, but they do alter soil biology in a way that makes some microbes/fungi unnecessary.

 

[hotrodharley]

Prior to this, I was under the impression that synthetic nutes do not kill microbes, but they can't feed on them either, so they die anyway. Fact or fiction?

They don't feed on them at all. What we mainly count on mycchoriza for is transport of phosphorus - again mainly - from our feeds across the root and into the plant. Feeding molasses is to feed the mycchoriza so they'll keep working .

 

[3rd Monkey]

Synthetic nutes do not kill microbes, but they do alter soil biology in a way that makes some microbes/fungi unnecessary.

So they only starve off certain fungi/microbes?

 

[Chunky Stool]

So they only starve off certain fungi/microbes?

Yep.

 

[3rd Monkey]

They don't feed on them at all. What we mainly count on mycchoriza for is transport of phosphorus - again mainly - from our feeds across the root and into the plant. Feeding molasses is to feed the mycchoriza so they'll keep working .

So the mycchoriza feed on sugars that carry nutrients? Did I get that right?

Because the roots produce sugars for the bacteria?

 

[3rd Monkey]

Makes so much more sense now. Thanks guys! Much appreciated.

 

[hotrodharley]

So they only starve off certain fungi/microbes?

People freak if they see other fungi blooming in their grow. "I found mushrooms in my container!"

Lucky you. It means your roots are in a happy zone.

 

[hotrodharley]

So the mycchoriza feed on sugars that carry nutrients? Did I get that right?

Because the roots produce sugars for the bacteria?

http://www.mykepro.com/mycorrhizae-benefits-application-and-research.aspx

 

[3rd Monkey]

People freak if they see other fungi blooming in their grow. "I found mushrooms in my container!"

Lucky you. It means your roots are in a happy zone.

I compost so I'm somewhat familiar with good bacteria like the Santa's beard but I don't let it linger near my plants because I usually only see it with heavy organic matter... That also invited shit I don't want lol.

Interesting though. I go a lot by experience so I just kind of make up my own theories as to why shit does what it does. I was on the right track, but makes much more sense now. Thanks.

 

[Dr. Who]

Prior to this, I was under the impression that synthetic nutes do not kill microbes, but they can't feed on them either, so they die anyway. Fact or fiction?

Not really "die" so much as go dormant... some do "die" but, not as many as people think.

BUT,

Yes, they basically starve out over time...

 

[Dr. Who]

People freak if they see other fungi blooming in their grow. "I found mushrooms in my container!"

Lucky you. It means your roots are in a happy zone.

I got them coming out of the bottom side holes and some from the edges around the top of the soil.... I see those. I know the plant is happy....