Two caves in one week. Trump is on a roll.

doublejj

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This is the walnut that I spoke of. You hear nothing and believe a bunch of bull. Giving nutrition to people is not the problem. Most welfare goes to service providers.....whom many take more then they should. Something like 75% of our welfare money never goes to people in need, but instead doctors, pharma and the like.
Racism says the party that enslaved an entire rave, left the union and fought for years with the toll of millions of live to protect it. Racism is the party that supports killing 19,000,000 black babies since 1973. Racism is the party who needs to look in the mirror. Most of the worst cities to be a black man or women are Democrat from the ground up. ie Baltimore, Chicago.....Awful education systems are not awful because they lack money. Baltimore spends huge $$$ and gets shit results. Public education sucks bro/sis. Superintendents and union bosses making big dime while kindergarten have to purchase crayons. Public unions are a major problem
Friking union bashing republican......your dumb
 

Fogdog

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This is the walnut that I spoke of. You hear nothing and believe a bunch of bull. Giving nutrition to people is not the problem. Most welfare goes to service providers.....whom many take more then they should. Something like 75% of our welfare money never goes to people in need, but instead doctors, pharma and the like.
Racism says the party that enslaved an entire rave, left the union and fought for years with the toll of millions of live to protect it. Racism is the party that supports killing 19,000,000 black babies since 1973. Racism is the party who needs to look in the mirror. Most of the worst cities to be a black man or women are Democrat from the ground up. ie Baltimore, Chicago.....Awful education systems are not awful because they lack money. Baltimore spends huge $$$ and gets shit results. Public education sucks bro/sis. Superintendents and union bosses making big dime while kindergarten have to purchase crayons. Public unions are a major problem
You didn't specifically answer my question. If you support SNAP then why aren't you opposing the people who are trying to take it down? Same with Medicare, same with Social Security. Same with Public Education. The party you support are trying to cut those programs at every chance they get.

The problem with public education today has been studied pretty well. We need smaller classes (more teachers), better teacher pay and a budget for school supplies and up-to-date text books, in some places, the schools are underheated in the winter. In others the roofs leak. We are underfunding education in the US. No wonder you don't like the result. Do you actually think that less money is the answer? If more efficiency is the answer then why aren't Republicans working on that instead they are taking money away from schools.

Also, cite your source that breaks down the claim that "75% of our welfare money never goes to people in need" .

Are you saying that visits to the hospital or the doctor are too expensive? Are you saying that the cost of pharmaceuticals is too high? Are you saying the medical system is too expensive? If that's what you are saying then again you are castigating the wrong side. Republicans have made costs rise faster compared to just a few years ago. Obamacare held down costs and Republicans broke it.

We don't even have "welfare".. In which programs are you saying this leakage happens?
 

NaturalFarmer

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......your dumb
You didn't specifically answer my question. If you support SNAP then why aren't you opposing the people who are trying to take it down? Same with Medicare, same with Social Security. Same with Public Education. The party you support are trying to cut those programs at every chance they get.

The problem with public education today has been studied pretty well. We need smaller classes (more teachers), better teacher pay and a budget for school supplies and up-to-date text books, in some places, the schools are underheated in the winter. In others the roofs leak. We are underfunding education in the US. No wonder you don't like the result. Do you actually think that less money is the answer? If more efficiency is the answer then why aren't Republicans working on that instead they are taking money away from schools.

Also, cite your source that breaks down the claim that "75% of our welfare money never goes to people in need" .

Are you saying that visits to the hospital or the doctor are too expensive? Are you saying that the cost of pharmaceuticals is too high? Are you saying the medical system is too expensive? If that's what you are saying then again you are castigating the wrong side. Republicans have made costs rise faster compared to just a few years ago. Obamacare held down costs and Republicans broke it.

We don't even have "welfare".. In which programs are you saying this leakage happens?
Baltimore spends $15,168 per pupil (which is much higher than the national average of around $12k) and yet out of 39 high schools, 13 had a 0% of students proficient in math. Reading isn't too much better. Throwing money at problems is not always the answer. I'm not going to get through to you, so why waste my time on breaking a walnut with my teeth? You read Huffpost and think you are being told truth and regurgitate it as if you are wise. I don't think you understand how dire SS is let alone how to fix it. Are fixed income elderly going to better off when it runs out in ten years and their income is cut by 25% or more? Many in the GOP like myself recognize that it is not sustainable, and will run out of gas sooner than later. This means people will be in dire need. It is a ponzi scheme that is coming to fruition in your lifetime. We don't have welfare? What does that even mean boss? So is Section 8 not welfare? Are EIC not welfare? SNAPs not welfare?

You mischaracterize the GOP's positions because you listen to the likes of leftist at Huffpost and WP. SNAP reform is not getting rid of SNAP. It is merely insuring people don't take advantage of it, which many certainly are. The less people who need SNAP the better? Do you agree? Teach a man to fish and give him the tools to succeed is the best solution. Privatizing SS is not getting rid of SS, it is putting people in control instead of a crooked bureaucracy. If fixing it requires people to not get those benefits for a few years later, that sucks but the alternative is much worse. Love to you and yours cutie.
 
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bundee1

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Baltimore spends $15,168 per pupil (which is much higher than the national average of around $12k) and yet out of 39 high schools, 13 had a 0% of students proficient in math. Reading isn't too much better. Throwing money at problems is not always the answer. I'm not going to get through to you, so why waste my time on breaking a walnut with my teeth? You read Huffpost and think you are being told truth and regurgitate it as if you are wise. I don't think you understand how dire SS is let alone how to fix it. Are fixed income elderly going to better off when it runs out in ten years and their income is cut by 25% or more? Many in the GOP like myself recognize that it is not sustainable, and will run out of gas sooner than later. This means people will be in dire need. It is a ponzi scheme that is coming to fruition in your lifetime. We don't have welfare? What does that even mean boss? So is Section 8 not welfare? Are EIC not welfare? SNAPs not welfare?

You mischaracterize the GOP's positions because you listen to the likes of leftist at Huffpost and WP. SNAP reform is not getting rid of SNAP. It is merely insuring people don't take advantage of it, which many certainly are. The less people who need SNAP the better? Do you agree? Teach a man to fish and give him the tools to succeed is the best solution. Privatizing SS is not getting rid of SS, it is putting people in control instead of a crooked bureaucracy. If fixing it requires people to not get those benefits for a few years later, that sucks but the alternative is much worse. Love to you and yours cutie.
Trillion dollar tax cut for rich invalidates your argument. Change your name to null and void.
 

UncleBuck

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Baltimore spends $15,168 per pupil (which is much higher than the national average of around $12k) and yet out of 39 high schools, 13 had a 0% of students proficient in math. Reading isn't too much better. Throwing money at problems is not always the answer. I'm not going to get through to you, so why waste my time on breaking a walnut with my teeth? You read Huffpost and think you are being told truth and regurgitate it as if you are wise. I don't think you understand how dire SS is let alone how to fix it. Are fixed income elderly going to better off when it runs out in ten years and their income is cut by 25% or more? Many in the GOP like myself recognize that it is not sustainable, and will run out of gas sooner than later. This means people will be in dire need. It is a ponzi scheme that is coming to fruition in your lifetime. We don't have welfare? What does that even mean boss? So is Section 8 not welfare? Are EIC not welfare? SNAPs not welfare?

You mischaracterize the GOP's positions because you listen to the likes of leftist at Huffpost and WP. SNAP reform is not getting rid of SNAP. It is merely insuring people don't take advantage of it, which many certainly are. The less people who need SNAP the better? Do you agree? Teach a man to fish and give him the tools to succeed is the best solution. Privatizing SS is not getting rid of SS, it is putting people in control instead of a crooked bureaucracy. If fixing it requires people to not get those benefits for a few years later, that sucks but the alternative is much worse. Love to you and yours cutie.
so much right wing bullshit in there. you are truly a brainwashed loser

SS will be solvent forever when we simply lift the cap on incomes above $118,000

no need to abolish SS by privatizing it. your hero bush tried that already and people wanted no piece of it

in case you missed it, the people spoke louder and clearer than they ever have before in a midterm. given just two years of letting racist assholes govern, cheered on by real dicksucking fanbois like you, people were so disgusted they handed you the worst defeat ever in midterms in american history

so just shut the fuck up and leave the governing to us, ya dumb fat racist cuck
 

Grandpapy

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If fixing it requires people to not get those benefits for a few years later, that sucks but the alternative is much worse. Love to you and yours cutie.
Putting the responsibility where it belongs is your first step.

Killing 130 per day might not alarm some industries but the devastation is not just to the user but the family left behind, How's those social standards in WV and FL?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/24/fda-opioids-big-pharma-prescriptions

Remember when Mckesson did the same thing to Baltimore in 2000-2006?

Get your head out of your ass.
 

Fogdog

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Baltimore spends $15,168 per pupil (which is much higher than the national average of around $12k) and yet out of 39 high schools, 13 had a 0% of students proficient in math. Reading isn't too much better. Throwing money at problems is not always the answer. I'm not going to get through to you, so why waste my time on breaking a walnut with my teeth? You read Huffpost and think you are being told truth and regurgitate it as if you are wise. I don't think you understand how dire SS is let alone how to fix it. Are fixed income elderly going to better off when it runs out in ten years and their income is cut by 25% or more? Many in the GOP like myself recognize that it is not sustainable, and will run out of gas sooner than later. This means people will be in dire need. It is a ponzi scheme that is coming to fruition in your lifetime. We don't have welfare? What does that even mean boss? So is Section 8 not welfare? Are EIC not welfare? SNAPs not welfare?

You mischaracterize the GOP's positions because you listen to the likes of leftist at Huffpost and WP. SNAP reform is not getting rid of SNAP. It is merely insuring people don't take advantage of it, which many certainly are. The less people who need SNAP the better? Do you agree? Teach a man to fish and give him the tools to succeed is the best solution. Privatizing SS is not getting rid of SS, it is putting people in control instead of a crooked bureaucracy. If fixing it requires people to not get those benefits for a few years later, that sucks but the alternative is much worse. Love to you and yours cutie.
Ok, so, no citations or links to back up your words. Then I'll ask,

What major policy positions or legislation do you support to "fix" education or Social Security? Cite a report or name the legislation so that I can read up on exactly what you propose. What current politician best represents these positions in Washington DC?
 

doublejj

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Baltimore spends $15,168 per pupil (which is much higher than the national average of around $12k) and yet out of 39 high schools, 13 had a 0% of students proficient in math. Reading isn't too much better. Throwing money at problems is not always the answer. I'm not going to get through to you, so why waste my time on breaking a walnut with my teeth? You read Huffpost and think you are being told truth and regurgitate it as if you are wise. I don't think you understand how dire SS is let alone how to fix it. Are fixed income elderly going to better off when it runs out in ten years and their income is cut by 25% or more? Many in the GOP like myself recognize that it is not sustainable, and will run out of gas sooner than later. This means people will be in dire need. It is a ponzi scheme that is coming to fruition in your lifetime. We don't have welfare? What does that even mean boss? So is Section 8 not welfare? Are EIC not welfare? SNAPs not welfare?

You mischaracterize the GOP's positions because you listen to the likes of leftist at Huffpost and WP. SNAP reform is not getting rid of SNAP. It is merely insuring people don't take advantage of it, which many certainly are. The less people who need SNAP the better? Do you agree? Teach a man to fish and give him the tools to succeed is the best solution. Privatizing SS is not getting rid of SS, it is putting people in control instead of a crooked bureaucracy. If fixing it requires people to not get those benefits for a few years later, that sucks but the alternative is much worse. Love to you and yours cutie.
if the republicans will put back the money they stole from SS to fund other nonsense, SS will be fine....another republican created crisis.....go read green eggs and ham
 

NaturalFarmer

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SS will be solvent forever when we simply lift the cap on incomes above $118,000

no need to abolish SS by privatizing it. your hero bush tried that already and people wanted no piece of it
You people really don't understand SS do you? SS is insurance that the government manages. Raising the cap would make it another welfare program and not earned insurance. Stop listening to Bernie, he knows nothing and only makes you his shit eater.
Nobody stole from SS you maroons. Any excess $$$ is invested into interest bearing gov bonds instead of putting the money under a mattress. By 2034 if no fixes are done, payouts will be reduced by 27%.
 

doublejj

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You people really don't understand SS do you? SS is insurance that the government manages. Raising the cap would make it another welfare program and not earned insurance. Stop listening to Bernie, he knows nothing and only makes you his shit eater.
Nobody stole from SS you maroons. Any excess $$$ is invested into interest bearing gov bonds instead of putting the money under a matress. By 2034 if no fixes are done, payouts will be reduced by 27%.
quit watch Faux news and you will know what really happened ..... republicans stole SS money.....please return it
 

NaturalFarmer

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quit watch Faux news and you will know what really happened ..... republicans stole SS money.....please return it
Did you make that up? That is super clever man. I mean fox=faux. You should put a trademark on that. Nobody stole any money dip stick. Stop listening to memes on facebook.
 

UncleBuck

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You people really don't understand SS do you? SS is insurance that the government manages. Raising the cap would make it another welfare program and not earned insurance. Stop listening to Bernie, he knows nothing and only makes you his shit eater.
Nobody stole from SS you maroons. Any excess $$$ is invested into interest bearing gov bonds instead of putting the money under a mattress. By 2034 if no fixes are done, payouts will be reduced by 27%.
America made it clear that we are uninterested in listening to your lies and propaganda
 

NaturalFarmer

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Buckshot I'm done schooling you losers. Ill be back a different day
Ok, so, no citations or links to back up your words. Then I'll ask,

What major policy positions or legislation do you support to "fix" education or Social Security? Cite a report or name the legislation so that I can read up on exactly what you propose. What current politician best represents these positions in Washington DC?
You really expect me to lay out a fix for the education system?Okay here is a few fixes. Better parenting and stop expecting schools and teachers to work miracles. Push trade schools instead of higher education that only puts the masses in debt. Become a carpenter or an electrician, its a noble profession. Screw common core, get rid of it. I'm not going to cite my sources sis. I waste enough time on you.
 
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