Fulvic acid recommendation and supplement recommendations?

max316420

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Looking for a good fulvic acid supplement

Flowering feeding schedule:

Medium = promix with a little added perlite
Usually watered with nutrient solution every other day

Fox farm grow big
Fox farm tiger bloom
Fox farm big bud
General organics calmag
General hydro diamond nectar

Want to add fulvic acid in to feeding regiment also would like to hear of anything you think might be missing that could increase yield and keep ladies as green and healthy as possible. Thanks in advance....
 

xtsho

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Just buy the water soluble powder. Under $20 a lb. No need to pay 100 times the price to have someone mix it with water and put it in a bottle. I also don't think you need to add anything else. You're using more than I would. I'd focus more on environment, lighting, etc... to maximize your grow rather than look for a solution in a bottle.

I use this

https://wallacewow.com/products/humic-and-fulvic-acid

 

Serverchris

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I cant find the article that had the research on humic/fulvic but basically most of the brown/black powder stuff you get is just waste product from some type of mining operation that is not even usable by the plants. Bioag brews the fulvic specifically for plant availability and is a totally different process than all the others. Bioag is the only fulvic worth spending money on, if you dont want to pay what it costs then just skip the fulvic all together cause your just waiting money otherwise.
 

Serverchris

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There is all kind of things that claim to have usable fulvic in it but that doesn't make it a fulvic product. Most all other than Bioag are derived from Leonardite which is far inferior. Bioag is literally a 2 to 3 person operation of scientists that make few products just to help increase the availability of nutrients to plants. Try it out and you will see. I use it mostly for clones and chelating folliar sprays.
 

Thegermling

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There is all kind of things that claim to have usable fulvic in it but that doesn't make it a fulvic product. Most all other than Bioag are derived from Leonardite which is far inferior. Bioag is literally a 2 to 3 person operation of scientists that make few products just to help increase the availability of nutrients to plants. Try it out and you will see. I use it mostly for clones and chelating folliar sprays.
I used to use zeus juice from nftg which is bioag ful power just rebranded( thats what the owner of nftg said) and I didnt see any difference. I noticed more from recharge than any other thing ive ever used. That or its all the other things in it.
 

Serverchris

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Bioag used to have research papers posted on their website explaining the differences in each and why their process was superior but I guess they have updated the website and taken it off. I had found a pdf of it a few months back on icmag I believe but cant find it today.
 

Serverchris

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I used to use zeus juice from nftg which is bioag ful power just rebranded( thats what the owner of nftg said) and I didnt see any difference. I noticed more from recharge than any other thing ive ever used. That or its all the other things in it.
I dont think they sell to people to resale under a different name, he was probably full of shit. I'm not knocking recharge at all, I use DEM fat flowers and radiant green which are similar type products so hadnt ever found the need to switch since they work so well. I just look at the ful-power as being an extra tool in the toolbox. If you need to folliar feed it helps chelate whatever your using to make it readily available to the plant. If cloning use 200x aloe flakes, ful-power, and pro-tekt for the healthiest clones you have ever seen.

Check out the ingredients of the DEM products if you like recharge, they have all kinds of stuff in them.
 

Thegermling

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I dont think they sell to people to resale under a different name, he was probably full of shit. I'm not knocking recharge at all, I use DEM fat flowers and radiant green which are similar type products so hadnt ever found the need to switch since they work so well. I just look at the ful-power as being an extra tool in the toolbox. If you need to folliar feed it helps chelate whatever your using to make it readily available to the plant. If cloning use 200x aloe flakes, ful-power, and pro-tekt for the healthiest clones you have ever seen.

Check out the ingredients of the DEM products if you like recharge, they have all kinds of stuff in them.
Nice clone tips. Might try that and ful power alone to see if it is the best fulvic. Ive heard of dragon earth before but no reviews on it here but ive never tried it because if it aint broke dont fix it right.
 

Serverchris

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Yeah I'm with you there, if you have it working good no need to change things unless you think improvements can be made. I wouldn't get the DEM humic but their other products are great. You will love the fuzzy rigid roots you get from that clone solution.
 

xtsho

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I cant find the article that had the research on humic/fulvic but basically most of the brown/black powder stuff you get is just waste product from some type of mining operation that is not even usable by the plants. Bioag brews the fulvic specifically for plant availability and is a totally different process than all the others. Bioag is the only fulvic worth spending money on, if you dont want to pay what it costs then just skip the fulvic all together cause your just waiting money otherwise.

Nonsense.
 

xtsho

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You posted a link to a company trying to sell their own product. It says "Article from www.BioAg.com " . Of course they're going to claim that their product is better.

The product I posted markets their product as well.

https://wallacewow.com/collections/all/products/humic-and-fulvic-acid

Who to believe?


I'll take the research from a non-biased researcher Dr. Wayne R. Kussow, Department of Soil Science, University of Wisconsin - Madison

This man has done actual research. He's not trying to sell any product. He states that humic/fulvic acids can be extracted from a variety of sources. He makes no distinction between those sources because once it's been extracted it's basically the same regardless of where it comes from.

https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/newsletters/hortupdate/hortupdate_archives/2002/jun02/art4jun.html


"Humic acid can be extracted from any material containing well-decomposed organic matter - soil, coal, composts, etc. Extraction is by way of treatment of these materials with a solution of sodium hydroxide. This dissolves much of the organic matter present. If we then take this solution and add enough acid to drop its pH to about 2, organic material will begin to flocculate and can be separated from the liquid portion. The flocculated material is humic acid. What remains in solution is fulvic acid."
 
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