The harvest flush yea or no

Aolelon

Aolelon

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Okay so I am getting pretty close to harvest, and I am unsure I want to flush or not. I have 2 plants, and this will be my first harvest, and I really dont w as not to duck up the hard work all for something small at the end.
While I really dont want this to turn into a flush, dont flush debate. I'm having a problem.
My plants are needing to be fed every other watering, and if I dont give them nutrients, they just completely look like shit, and I cant afford to lose any more leaf mass on one of my plants without buds being affected.

So how would you flush in this situation? Or would you just taper off nutrients?
 

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nonamedman420

nonamedman420

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you're gonna get many people from either side of the fence on this question. personally, nope, i'd just feed less strength. why starve them during the point where they swell up and bulk up the most?
edit: bad tasting mj has less to do with flushing or not, and more to do with proper drying and curing, vs the shit most people do which is dry to the point where it burns and smoke it or sell it. curing is a lost art, let them sugars ferment. cured bud is better imho.
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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nonamedman420 said:
you're gonna get many people from either side of the fence on this question. personally, nope, i'd just feed less strength. why starve them during the point where they swell up and bulk up the most?
edit: bad tasting mj has less to do with flushing or not, and more to do with proper drying and curing, vs the shit most people do which is dry to the point where it burns and smoke it or sell it. curing is a lost art, let them sugars ferment. cured bud is better imho.
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Yea I'm thinking I will just have to taper down, I know the PPM of the soil is low, and their root mass is so overwhelming in the pot that they just eat up whatever is in there available to them. So I will continue to taper down as I have been. Maybe the last 2 watering, just use plain water.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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nonamedman420 said:
you're gonna get many people from either side of the fence on this question. personally, nope, i'd just feed less strength. why starve them during the point where they swell up and bulk up the most?
edit: bad tasting mj has less to do with flushing or not, and more to do with proper drying and curing, vs the shit most people do which is dry to the point where it burns and smoke it or sell it. curing is a lost art, let them sugars ferment. cured bud is better imho.
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Much of the bad tasting weed is from people running the high ppm's that the nutrient companies feeding charts recommend. They just want to sell more product.
 
BleedsGreen

BleedsGreen

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I almost never flushed in soil, I always flush hydro grows, just how I do it, could be right, could be wrong but it is how I roll! How do you flush an outdoor plant in soil? That is how I started many, many years ago so when I brought soil indoors I kept that process. When I tried hydro I noticed sometimes they didn't burn as well so I started flushing and liked the results.
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Im hydro i
Tend to feed lightly i taper my feed at the end but i still flush em a little bit just personal preference

Cause im not selling.my shit i got to smoke it so i prefer to flush haha

Its up to you i suggest trying all the methods before you make a final decision

I say i dont care how you get good results as long as the results are good :)

Burns clean , fine white ash or light light grey
Only need to light the pipe once and it will burn the whole bowl
Taste good till the very last hit

Do that and i dont care if you flushed or not :)
 
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Wilksey

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Aolelon said:
So how would you flush in this situation?
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I wouldn't.

There's no need to.

Name ONE other group of farmers that allows their flowering, or fruiting, plants to starve and eat themselves to improve their harvest and flowers. I'll wait.

Aolelon said:
Or would you just taper off nutrients?
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I do taper off nutrients in flower, but only when the plant is healthy and green. If I see the mass cannibalization of leaves that I see in most grows, that tells me that the plant is deficient in MOBILE nutrients, and if a plant is deficient in MOBILE nutrients, then the odds are pretty damn good that it's also deficient in IMMOBILE nutrients as well. This means the plant needs food to balance out growth, not starvation.

There isn't one living creature on the planet that grows as well in a nutritional deficit as it does in an adequate, or surplus, nutritional environment. The cannabis plant is no different, regardless of what a bunch of ignorant stoners may convince themselves.
 
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Tim1987

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I'm 100% with tapering, as the plant starts to slow, and ppms start to build a little. I find it's usually around week 5 or 6.

But I definitely flush as well.

Personally I taper until the plant looks "ready" to come down. Then it's water only, for 4-5 days to flush all the residuals out.
I've done both, with the same seeds. This definitely, without questioning, makes them taste better.
They're just that little bit smoother. Can't taste nearly as much chlorophyll. That kind of "tingle" on your tongue, when you exhale. They put a little more stink on before chop too.

I vote taper, until trichomes are 99% ready. Then flush them 3-5 days with plain water.

I always find the same with annual vegetables. If I fertilize with manure and the likes, late before they set fruit. Things like tomatoes, are just a tad less sweet.

Some reading too. Just googled it. You may find it handy.

http://www.canna-uk.com/flushing

I'm 100% with taper down.
But I'd be flushing at the end too.
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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Wilksey said:
I wouldn't.

There's no need to.

Name ONE other group of farmers that allows their flowering, or fruiting, plants to starve and eat themselves to improve their harvest and flowers. I'll wait.



I do taper off nutrients in flower, but only when the plant is healthy and green. If I see the mass cannibalization of leaves that I see in most grows, that tells me that the plant is deficient in MOBILE nutrients, and if a plant is deficient in MOBILE nutrients, then the odds are pretty damn good that it's also deficient in IMMOBILE nutrients as well. This means the plant needs food to balance out growth, not starvation.

There isn't one living creature on the planet that grows as well in a nutritional deficit as it does in an adequate, or surplus, nutritional environment. The cannabis plant is no different, regardless of what a bunch of ignorant stoners may convince themselves.
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We dont really smoke any other plant besides tobacco so that point is pretty useless.
 
charface

charface

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Nature tapers nutrients as far as I see it
At first the ground is rich with last years composted goodness.

As the year goes on the plants eat and rain washes away nutrients.

I believe fast acting nitrogen will be the first to go.

This is just a thought I had the other day but it makes sense to me
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Thanks for that one haha

Personally people need to stfu when it comes to the nomenclature

I consider flushing the same as feeding with plain water .


People like to get all yippy about that shit and its silly

Im hydro all i have to do is dump my res and fill with plain water done ....
charface said:
Nature tapers nutrients as far as I see it
At first the ground is rich with last years composted goodness.

As the year goes on the plants eat and rain washes away nutrients.

I believe fast acting nitrogen will be the first to go.

This is just a though I had the other day but it makes sense to me
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Exactly haha ive described it the same before as well :)
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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Well I know the terminology is a bit off, I dont think it's more or less flushing as opposed to just watering. But it seems like the term flush has been used, at least from my perspective, for a while now so.
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Aolelon said:
Well I know the terminology is a bit off, I dont think it's more or less flushing as opposed to just watering. But it seems like the term flush has been used, at least from my perspective, for a while now so.
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Your right flushing is a thing and it does have uses .

But some people will scream that they dont flush
They just water plain .......to me it's close enough to the same thing in my book your just not giving it as much as a "traditional flush" ...

i hate that

Edit to add i dont necessarily care what people do though as i dont smoke their weed :)
 
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