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rkymtnman

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No the big differences when you go to the emergency room they're not allowed to say no the porche dealer will call the cops and have your dumb-ass arrested. I see the difference you're a sheep
so you are saying you are for people going to the emergency room without insurance which causes people with insurance to pay more?

access does not equal health care.

and when is Obamacare getting repealed? day 1 is long ago...
 

Fogdog

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I think there is a huge difference between health insurance and having access to health care. Emergency room regardedless If you have health insurance if you're hurt and they will help you that is health care. Health insurance needs to be left to the open market. Any time the government tries to get involved it just goes to The toilet Even more so with health care. I mean did you see that krapp in the UK that poor baby was still semi conscious and the government literally made him starve to death the parents had no choice but to sit there and watch. So yeah I'm not for government Backed insurance at all. Providing Access to health care For the less fortunate I'm all for. Asking people to pay additional taxes to pay for it I'm not.
So, shoring up the affordable health care system so that people who can afford it will pay for private plan health care coverage at an competitive cost and subsidizing those who can afford to pay for some of the cost is good with you?
 

Terps

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As long as adult able body people work or do some type of comunity service I'm all for it. Because in the end it's still my tax dollars paying for. I throw in the community service because I think that able body people even if they cannot find a job should still be out there to contribute to society. And you never know doing that type of community service you may actually find a job.
 

schuylaar

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Why does the DCCC try to influence the race before the voters have had a chance to choose the best candidate they feel can defeat the Republican?

Shouldn't the voters choose the candidate, then the DCCC put their financial backing behind him/her? Why have they backed the corporate friendly candidate in every race against the actual progressive?

It is good, though, that you've finally admitted corporate collusion within the Democratic party establishment. Went from "it's not happening!" to "they're allowed to do it" in no time flat
To ‘it’s legal..’ by uncle buck
 

Padawanbater2

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As long as adult able body people work or do some type of comunity service I'm all for it. Because in the end it's still my tax dollars paying for. I throw in the community service because I think that able body people even if they cannot find a job should still be out there to contribute to society. And you never know doing that type of community service you may actually find a job.
What if they have to take care of their kids?

Isn't that also contributing to society? Making sure their kids arent on the streets looking for easier ways to make money?
 

schuylaar

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I think there is a huge difference between health insurance and having access to health care. Emergency room regardedless If you have health insurance if you're hurt and they will help you that is health care. Health insurance needs to be left to the open market. Any time the government tries to get involved it just goes to The toilet Even more so with health care. I mean did you see that krapp in the UK that poor baby was still semi conscious and the government literally made him starve to death the parents had no choice but to sit there and watch. So yeah I'm not for government Backed insurance at all. Providing Access to health care For the less fortunate I'm all for. Asking people to pay additional taxes to pay for it I'm not.
Ireland is a Socialist country.
 

Fogdog

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As long as adult able body people work or do some type of comunity service I'm all for it. Because in the end it's still my tax dollars paying for. I throw in the community service because I think that able body people even if they cannot find a job should still be out there to contribute to society. And you never know doing that type of community service you may actually find a job.
I take that as a provisional, Yes, you support the ACA. The provision being that people who receive a subsidy should participate in some sort of public works project.

Most of the people who receive a subsidy are already working. Do people have to quit their jobs in order to have time to work for their health care subsidy? Of course, the public works that people would participate in would also have to pay enough so that people could afford housing and food. Otherwise how could they afford to work only for a healthcare subsidy? Also child care because as Pad points out, when people are at work their kids need looking after. This is all beginning to look a lot like Bernie's guaranteed jobs bill.

But as long as you support the ACA and a guaranteed jobs bill, I can see how this would work. Tell me, if people are working at this mandatory job that you say they would have to do in order to qualify for the medical care subsidy, who is managing them and making sure they show up and doing a good job? Does this manager punish people if they don't do a good job? Who manages the managers?
 

UncleBuck

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As long as adult able body people work or do some type of comunity service I'm all for it. Because in the end it's still my tax dollars paying for. I throw in the community service because I think that able body people even if they cannot find a job should still be out there to contribute to society. And you never know doing that type of community service you may actually find a job.
you don't pay taxes, alex.

i saw your gofundme begging for money you mooch
 

ttystikk

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So, you are going to vote Republican?

There is a big difference between Democrats and Republicans. In terms of access to health care, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Infrastructure, workers' rights, civil rights, the environment and the differences in policies and the legislation in Congress, the differences are stark. Only an entitled white man can say there is no difference. Do I have to pull up headlines from the spring of 2017 when Republicans were striving to repeal the ACA? How about their efforts to privatize Social Security? How about their pulling the US out of the Paris treaty to address climate change? The list goes on and on.

You don't want money in politics? Democrats support campaign finance reform and Republicans don't.

So, are you going to vote Republican?
Jesus, you're stupid. If I don't want money in politics, why would I vote for the Republicans?

The rest of your post is similarly worthless.
 

ttystikk

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I was talking about people in the US when I said the only entitled white people could be blithe about two more years of Republican control of government.

Russia has a dictator for life and plenty of white people are fine with that. Would you care to shed some light on why so many Russians are happy to live under an oppressive government like they have in Russia?
It would seem that Mr Putin enjoys broad support among Russian voters.

Instead of denigrating them, perhaps you could look into why they might think that way.

If it isn't too much effort. Your intellectual laziness is legendary.
 

ttystikk

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Could you please explain what makes Crow the corporate friendly candidate? He has forsworn contributions from corporate PACS and contributions from corporations, in case you didn't know.

What's so great about Tillemann that Cult of Sanders people would sacrifice their principle that campaigns for Democrats should run on air and demand money from the DCCC satan?

From what I've read, the DCCC is stepping in to side with candidates with the best chances to win in the fall. This is what was said in the Washington Post:

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has thrown its weight in the race behind Jason Crow, an attorney and veteran running a more center-left campaign than Tillemann, who supports universal Medicare and other planks of Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) campaign platform. In the December conversation, Hoyer told Tillemann that “a decision was made early on by the Colorado delegation” to back Crow, and that it would continue to do so.

For example, the DCCC thinks (as I do) that shoring up the ACA is politically more acceptable to voters in districts that Democrats need to flip. The same for other policies that I like in concept but don't think will win in less than liberal districts center.

They are basically giving Sanders and you the cold shoulder. Makes sense to me.
His record speaks for itself. You might start there.
 

Fogdog

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His record speaks for itself. You might start there.
All Bernie has accomplished in 12 years in the Senate is a few solar water heaters on some Federal buildings.

That's Bernie's record.

What is Tillemann's? I can't find anything even approaching what Bernie has done as meager as that is. It's OK if he doesn't have a list of accomplishments. So all I can fall back on is his policies, which are the same losers, such as Bernie's health care bill that Bernie hides behind in place of anything of substance.
 

Padawanbater2

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All Bernie has accomplished in 12 years in the Senate is a few solar water heaters on some Federal buildings.

That's Bernie's record.

What is Tillemann's? I can't find anything even approaching what Bernie has done as meager as that is. It's OK if he doesn't have a list of accomplishments. So all I can fall back on is his policies, which are the same losers, such as Bernie's health care bill that Bernie hides behind in place of anything of substance.
Tilleman's record is irrelevant as you will obsessively hate on it regardless of substance, regardless of if you agree with it or not, just like you do with Bernie Sanders. To be sure, it's miles more progressive than Crow, which is why the DCCC has chosen to support Crow over Tilleman. Steny Hoyer has already admitted as much publicly, no use in denying it now

You've already clutched your pearls from "the DNC doesn't choose candidates!!" How preposterous!!" to "it's their right to choose the candidate!!". So we all already know you oppose actual Democratic voters from choosing the candidate over the elites of the party because "they know best"...

..because you know you can't win a fair election.

So, like I said. Good luck in the midterms. You will need it.
 
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