Flower? Pics. Blueberry. Canuk seeds. Feminized.
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projectinfo
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3 tables, 6 plants per table.....
18 total
18 total
Cold$moke
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In my oppinon after looking at the photos more is
Since your canopy is pretty thin (like i do mine too)
You dont have to worry about penetration to much.
If i where you i would pluck them in stages since your in week 5
Like today pull off anything lower then the top 3 grown leaves
Then wait 1 day. Then pull off any purple stemmed bigger leaves and anythat are shading buds
Then wait a day rinse annd repeat
I believe if you yank it all off at once you might atress them out and throw a nanner
Since your canopy is pretty thin (like i do mine too)
You dont have to worry about penetration to much.
If i where you i would pluck them in stages since your in week 5
Like today pull off anything lower then the top 3 grown leaves
Then wait 1 day. Then pull off any purple stemmed bigger leaves and anythat are shading buds
Then wait a day rinse annd repeat
I believe if you yank it all off at once you might atress them out and throw a nanner
projectinfo
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Right on, IL do some more trimming in the next few days. Nothing serious.
Randomblame
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@projectinfo
Many roads leads to Rome, mate. I have seen some who defoliate really radical and others who have defoliated more moderately and even others defoliating in weekly intervals. It depends on what you feel is right. Let yourself be guided by your feeling, you will soon have a feeling which leaves can go away.
@Cold$moke
What's up with the purple stems? Why can a leaf only go away when they stem turned purple? I had some strains, who developed purple stems from the beginning? Really curious if it's a myth or if there is a logic reason. Thanks mate!
Many roads leads to Rome, mate. I have seen some who defoliate really radical and others who have defoliated more moderately and even others defoliating in weekly intervals. It depends on what you feel is right. Let yourself be guided by your feeling, you will soon have a feeling which leaves can go away.
@Cold$moke
What's up with the purple stems? Why can a leaf only go away when they stem turned purple? I had some strains, who developed purple stems from the beginning? Really curious if it's a myth or if there is a logic reason. Thanks mate!
Cold$moke
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@Randomblame
Only if they dont have purple from genetics
Ill notice that the top three leaves stay green and after that they tend to purple out to me indicating
The plants done with them and sending the nutes elswhere
But im not an expert botanist or horticulturist
Just a dude that been growing for a few years
Only if they dont have purple from genetics
Ill notice that the top three leaves stay green and after that they tend to purple out to me indicating
The plants done with them and sending the nutes elswhere
But im not an expert botanist or horticulturist
Just a dude that been growing for a few years
Cold$moke
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Indeed a lot of differnt methods and ideals
Out there.
But every time i do a major defoiliation i always see the plant never skip a beat
Im doing a side by side right now in my journal between plants that are hardly plucked and plants that are getting plucked hard
That way i know for sure
Out there.
But every time i do a major defoiliation i always see the plant never skip a beat
Im doing a side by side right now in my journal between plants that are hardly plucked and plants that are getting plucked hard
That way i know for sure
Cold$moke
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Ill do a photo shop for ya tonight
projectinfo
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Yes I'm interested in your resultsIll do a photo shop for ya tonight
BigHornBuds
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Right now I’d clean up underneath, if there’s any little buds that are far behind the rest pull, some old leaves starting to lose color pull. Get some more fresh air in there , n lose the larf if any.
When I’m growing a new strain, I take a lot of factors into what strain n phenos make the cut.
The 1st run I don’t like to do a lot , just kinda see what they wanna do with my system and style of growing.
I like phenos that are not prone to larf n popcorn, with less work from me.
But after a few grows you can determine what they will respond too. I have one plant, that I pull fans from start to finish, because they block out the sun and I’ll end up with junk below, this hurts the final size of the main colas , but the end yeild is a lot higher.
Anonther stain, I loollipop hard in early flower, n let her do her thing, then around 6-7week I’ll slowly start opening the canopy to get more light deeper, as I see the tops getting ripe .
I have found a difference in yeild and quietly
Of the lower buds sites , with increasing the amount of air under the canopy. Also speeds up the wet dry cycle to feed them more .
Looks good
When I’m growing a new strain, I take a lot of factors into what strain n phenos make the cut.
The 1st run I don’t like to do a lot , just kinda see what they wanna do with my system and style of growing.
I like phenos that are not prone to larf n popcorn, with less work from me.
But after a few grows you can determine what they will respond too. I have one plant, that I pull fans from start to finish, because they block out the sun and I’ll end up with junk below, this hurts the final size of the main colas , but the end yeild is a lot higher.
Anonther stain, I loollipop hard in early flower, n let her do her thing, then around 6-7week I’ll slowly start opening the canopy to get more light deeper, as I see the tops getting ripe .
I have found a difference in yeild and quietly
Of the lower buds sites , with increasing the amount of air under the canopy. Also speeds up the wet dry cycle to feed them more .
Looks good
Lordhooha
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Yep what cold said. Perfect advice it’s what I’d say.
Cold$moke
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Too kind lol
I agree with @BigHornBuds on seeing what the plant expresses on the first runs as well when im pheno hunting. Hes got good stuff to say
I agree with all of it
But after you decide its a keeper you might as well train to see how shes going to respond to it anyways.
BigHornBuds
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ThanksToo kind lol
I agree with @BigHornBuds on seeing what the plant expresses on the first runs as well when im pheno hunting. Hes got good stuff to say
I agree with all of it
But after you decide its a keeper you might as well train to see how shes going to respond to it anyways.
BigHornBuds
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One thing I would change next time is the net, I would make a couple rings around the table with 1/2pvc pipe or wood , and hook the net to it and make it tight for support , once the buds start to swell they will start to fall, I don’t see the net offering much support ( but could just be the pics)
I switched from netting etc to 60lbs fishing line. I made 1 tear with pvc pipe , n screws every 4”, made my own net , works slick, cheap, easy to replace, if needed .
Going to add another tear soon, but after a full week of remodeling to the room and little sleep, it’s fine for now .
@Cold$moke , I’m loving the orca
And the reason the vent stuck to it wasn’t just because of heat, it was because the 6” 90 had duct tape on it an the glue from that stick to the orca, and when I pulled, was the perfect storm . I put white duct tape on it, the girls and I agree its not noticeable.
I switched from netting etc to 60lbs fishing line. I made 1 tear with pvc pipe , n screws every 4”, made my own net , works slick, cheap, easy to replace, if needed .
Going to add another tear soon, but after a full week of remodeling to the room and little sleep, it’s fine for now .
@Cold$moke , I’m loving the orca
And the reason the vent stuck to it wasn’t just because of heat, it was because the 6” 90 had duct tape on it an the glue from that stick to the orca, and when I pulled, was the perfect storm . I put white duct tape on it, the girls and I agree its not noticeable.
Cold$moke
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I think his nets fine as i do the same thing when keeping my canopy height short.
A fellow made a comment about my lights being able to penetrate 3ft and im not using all of it.
To that i have thought about and looked at my net and even though the light may reach down deep.
It DOES NOT. Change the fact that the plant is atypical and will send its growth to the highets buds period.
Even though my canopy height is less then a foot thick i still find Larf ..... this is due to the plants way of distributing the growth power. Not because my lights wont go deep enough
So i tend to look at my plants after the stretch and any buds i see that are lower on the brach that grow more stem then the rest get cut as i know they are trying to keep up with the tops
A fellow made a comment about my lights being able to penetrate 3ft and im not using all of it.
To that i have thought about and looked at my net and even though the light may reach down deep.
It DOES NOT. Change the fact that the plant is atypical and will send its growth to the highets buds period.
Even though my canopy height is less then a foot thick i still find Larf ..... this is due to the plants way of distributing the growth power. Not because my lights wont go deep enough
So i tend to look at my plants after the stretch and any buds i see that are lower on the brach that grow more stem then the rest get cut as i know they are trying to keep up with the tops
projectinfo
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Thanks for the input guys, and I agree the net looks loose, it's deceiving.
I have four 2x4s holding the net tight on top, I've been weaving the tops through the squares.
The sides are just loose for now because I cut out most of the undergrowth out .
If the buds spill over the sides, IL weave the loose side netting around the buds I have to and then tighten them up with zip ties
I like having access because I use a bucket with a hose to do a half dose feed with sm90 soil drench once a week at 1ml/liter
And twice a week now I'll be doing a hand feeding because I feel my pumps aren't doing that good of a job evenly distributing water. Some pots were getting lighter than others.
I have four 2x4s holding the net tight on top, I've been weaving the tops through the squares.
The sides are just loose for now because I cut out most of the undergrowth out .
If the buds spill over the sides, IL weave the loose side netting around the buds I have to and then tighten them up with zip ties
I like having access because I use a bucket with a hose to do a half dose feed with sm90 soil drench once a week at 1ml/liter
And twice a week now I'll be doing a hand feeding because I feel my pumps aren't doing that good of a job evenly distributing water. Some pots were getting lighter than others.
Serva
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I don‘t want to argue with anyone here, but my opinion is, that it‘s too late for a proper defoliation. At this stage removing lower buds, won’t necessary result in more harvest weight. I like it when I can keep my plants just a little underfed, and see the big leaves turn yellow. Than I help plug em off... like more a kind of natural defoliation. Even a week of underfeeding will show you, which leaves the plants don‘t need anymore. Mistakes Of over-pruning exluded this way.
Cold$moke
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I semi agree with serva that week 5 is a little late for tricks
But in my mind the plant HAS to use ENERGY maintain those lower leaves and when they purple out or snap right off they are ready to go.
In my humble opinion not fact or anything.
i for one would rather pull popcorn off then have to trim it though
But in my mind the plant HAS to use ENERGY maintain those lower leaves and when they purple out or snap right off they are ready to go.
In my humble opinion not fact or anything.
i for one would rather pull popcorn off then have to trim it though